Having sex and not remembering it

VeggieChick · Jul 28, 2007

I know I've read this scenario before, and I'm wondering how real it is. Guy has been shot or is sick and has a high fever, sleeps with the heroine but he's so out of it that somehow thinks it's a dream. The next day (or a couple of days after, depending on how sick he was), he gets better but is sure it was only his imagination and nothing ever happened. Now, I'm writing erotica, so this is a cute little scenario that would work wonders with the plot, but if it's totally implausible, then I don't want to use it. The hero has just been shot trying to save the girl. Not a major shot (the bullet just grazed the skin on his shoulder), and he refuses to go to the hospital (he has other reasons for that too). I'm thinking he can't develop a fever high enough to be "out of it," so are there any options? Is there any pain medication he could take (even if it's not sold over the counter –he would have access to it) that would produce those results? Anything?

Zoombie · Jul 29, 2007

Er...you could work a mmneamorph into the story. Or a nasty clock to the head...

Or drugs!

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

Zoombie said:
Or a nasty clock to the head...

Or drugs!

i don't actually want to kill the guy. i kinda like him

drugs were an option, but since he's the main character, i was told not to have him use recreational drugs as he would look... bad (if that makes sense). i thought maybe he could just pop a pill and not mention what it is, but i'm not sure there's anything out there that would produce the effects i was mentioning it.

Mac H. · Jul 29, 2007

VeggieChick said:
.. he gets better but is sure it was only his imagination and nothing ever happened.

This is a bit of an easier problem .. because he **DOES** remember it - he just doesn't trust his memory.

He could be on pain killers, and have his side-kick tell horror stories of how he imagined leprechauns (or whatever) when HE was on those pills, he probably wouldn't trust his memories .. especially if the lady acts as if nothing happened.

Good luck,

Mac.

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

Mac H. said:
This is a bit of an easier problem .. because he **DOES** remember it - he just doesn't trust his memory.

He could be on pain killers, and have his side-kick tell horror stories of how he imagined leprechauns (or whatever) when HE was on those pills, he probably wouldn't trust his memories .. especially if the lady acts as if nothing happened.

Good luck,

Mac.

Would painkillers actually do that? What kind?

dolores haze · Jul 29, 2007

The scenario sounds a little implausible as you describe it. Would he get a fever from a graze? Would they even have painkillers on hand? Is it more likely they would have alcohol to hand? (You know how they do it in the movies - pour the precious fluid on the wound, then suck some down as pain relief). Too much booze could definitely produce the result you're describing, but might also interfere with his ability to, um, perform. Maybe a combination of a slight fever, a painkiller, and some booze would be enough to induce the dreamlight state in which he does the deed. Still - wouldn't the heroine be pretty pissy if he didn't mention/remember their night of mad passion?

scarletpeaches · Jul 29, 2007

Does it count if you have sex and WANT to forget all about it?

Fenika · Jul 29, 2007

I was on codiene for awhile and got occasionally loopy. Not enough to doubt if something happened, but when it happened got foggy

(And I was on a normal dose- 30mg tabs I think?)

From Merck:

Opioids may also produce euphoria, sometimes simply because severe pain has finally been relieved. They dull pain and may enhance sexual pleasure. They also cause constipation; flushed or warm skin and lowered blood pressure; itching; constricted pupils; slow, shallow breathing; a slow heart rate; and low body temperature. Opioids may cause confusion, especially in older people.

That outta give you something to start with. You can google your heart out...

Fenika · Jul 29, 2007

PS- any deep wound has the potential to cause systemic infection (and fever). I could see the guy getting shot, taking pain killers, getting laid, and then wake up with a nasty fever. If the gal-in-question tends to him, all the more reason to question if they 'did it'

dolores haze · Jul 29, 2007

Peach's comment is funny, but makes a good point. Never underestimate the power of denial. He refuses to believe he's slept with her, rather than actually "forgetting".

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

dolores haze said:
Still - wouldn't the heroine be pretty pissy if he didn't mention/remember their night of mad passion?

She's actually relieved. She has a fiance somewhere else.

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

dolores haze said:
Peach's comment is funny, but makes a good point. Never underestimate the power of denial. He refuses to believe he's slept with her, rather than actually "forgetting".

I was thinking something like that. He remembers the sex, but he isn't sure it really happened. May work out better that way.

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

Bahamutchild said:
PS- any deep wound has the potential to cause systemic infection (and fever). I could see the guy getting shot, taking pain killers, getting laid, and then wake up with a nasty fever. If the gal-in-question tends to him, all the more reason to question if they 'did it'

Well, since I need a reason for her to stick around, this can actually be perfect. He gets shot trying to save her, so now she feels guilty and can stay around until the fever is gone and he feels better.

Vanatru · Jul 29, 2007

Just my luck. I save all those people and none of 'em ever slept with me. Can I have the MC's phone and find out what his technique is?

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

Vanatru said:
Just my luck. I save all those people and none of 'em ever slept with me. Can I have the MC's phone and find out what his technique is?

I'll ask him and get back to you

Izunya · Jul 29, 2007

Demerol can make you pretty loopy. My mother had an out-of-body hallucination on it, and my grandmother went looking for her purse in the doctor's coat pockets. Me, I get kind of euphoric, cuss like a sailor, and hallucinate nurses coming into the room to ask me questions---but, on some level, I knew it was a hallucination. I knew that I was kind of drifting in and out of sleep at the time, and I remember waking up long enough to lay down the law: "Okay, from now on out, I am only going to answer questions from people who actually exist. Got it? Good." And they must have got it, because after that I slept like a baby.

Which is kind of beside the point. The point is that demerol is a powerful painkiller, a hospital's first choice in a lot of situations, but it can reeeally mess with your head---which is what you want. The other point is that it's a well-known drug, so you can reasonably set it up so that he expects weird special effects. Everyone in my maternal line goes weird on demerol; we even have funny stories about it. When I got my gallbladder removed, I knew I was going to spend the next few days tripping. If someone unlikely had showed up to have sex with me, especially late at night and right after a dose hit my veins, I might have thought, "So I have vivid dreams on demerol. Huh. Well, that's a story I'm not going to be sharing with my grandmother."

That is, as long as said hypothetical person was extremely gentle and didn't rip my stitches. Even on the drug I could tell I wasn't in peak condition, and sex was the last thing on my mind.

Izunya

Soccer Mom · Jul 29, 2007

I'm not one to rain on someone else's parade. I'm really not.

But, I just have to say it.

What kind of ho has a fiance and then sleeps with a seriously injured delirious man? That would be a tough sell for me. Of course if you want me to hate her.....

Fenika · Jul 29, 2007

Maybe she's a bit giddy after nearly dying... and giddy turns to ho...

Or maybe she accidently took some of his meds... or purposely... perhaps she's a nervous reck after the near death experience and thinks it will help with her nerves...

I'm sure it could be written in well

VeggieChick · Jul 29, 2007

Soccer Mom said:
I'm not one to rain on someone else's parade. I'm really not.

But, I just have to say it.

What kind of ho has a fiance and then sleeps with a seriously injured delirious man? That would be a tough sell for me. Of course if you want me to hate her.....

Bahamutchild said:
Maybe she's a bit giddy after nearly dying... and giddy turns to ho...

Or maybe she accidently took some of his meds... or purposely... perhaps she's a nervous reck after the near death experience and thinks it will help with her nerves...

I'm sure it could be written in well

Everything Bahamutchild child said, plus she's kind of running away from home at this point because she's not sure she wants to go ahead with the wedding, etc. Hopefully it will come across as believable once it's on the page. If not, I can always make her fiance a jerk or something (don't really want to go that way--a little overdone).

VeggieChick · Jul 30, 2007

Aside from the fact that this is a very entertaining post

, it's also quite educational (going to Google to research Demerol in detail right now...). Thanks!

Izunya said:
Demerol can make you pretty loopy. My mother had an out-of-body hallucination on it, and my grandmother went looking for her purse in the doctor's coat pockets. Me, I get kind of euphoric, cuss like a sailor, and hallucinate nurses coming into the room to ask me questions---but, on some level, I knew it was a hallucination. I knew that I was kind of drifting in and out of sleep at the time, and I remember waking up long enough to lay down the law: "Okay, from now on out, I am only going to answer questions from people who actually exist. Got it? Good." And they must have got it, because after that I slept like a baby.

Which is kind of beside the point. The point is that demerol is a powerful painkiller, a hospital's first choice in a lot of situations, but it can reeeally mess with your head---which is what you want. The other point is that it's a well-known drug, so you can reasonably set it up so that he expects weird special effects. Everyone in my maternal line goes weird on demerol; we even have funny stories about it. When I got my gallbladder removed, I knew I was going to spend the next few days tripping. If someone unlikely had showed up to have sex with me, especially late at night and right after a dose hit my veins, I might have thought, "So I have vivid dreams on demerol. Huh. Well, that's a story I'm not going to be sharing with my grandmother."

That is, as long as said hypothetical person was extremely gentle and didn't rip my stitches. Even on the drug I could tell I wasn't in peak condition, and sex was the last thing on my mind.

Izunya

Stephanie_Gunn · Jul 31, 2007

If you're looking for a drug that could have this effect, Ambien (sleeping pill) can. Don't ask me how I know that

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