Film rights for short stories

lostlore · Jul 18, 2007

I've been reading about how many movies have gotten their genesis from short stories as opposed to novels -- there's a lot of them -- and I wonder if anyone has any experience in this area.

How common is it today for film rights to be purchased from a short story? Is it even something to think about? And when a studio wants your story, what might you expect in terms of pay for selling the movie rights?

Soccer Mom · Jul 19, 2007

I have no clue about this. I'd be afraid of suffering brain damage when I passed out and hit the floor--cause that's what would happen if a studio called about one of my short stories.

Twizzle · Jul 19, 2007

well, like Zoetrope? Don't they buy an option for film rights if they buy your story? or something like that? I think it's like for a year.

Kate Thornton · Jul 19, 2007

I had an independent film production company contact me for rights to a story last year. Unfortunately, I had sold those rights with the story (stupid me!) and could not help them. It was a story I wrote nearly ten years ago - I would have loved to see it as a film.

A note: think twice before you sell all rights to a story - even for $100 like I did.

Soccer Mom · Jul 19, 2007

Kate Thornton said:
I had an independent film production company contact me for rights to a story last year. Unfortunately, I had sold those rights with the story (stupid me!) and could not help them. It was a story I wrote nearly ten years ago - I would have loved to see it as a film.

A note: think twice before you sell all rights to a story - even for $100 like I did.

A gooood warning to heed. Did you faint? I would have.

Stijn Hommes · Jul 19, 2007

Yes, make sure you didn't sell them before.
There's the whole option thing (pretty much similar to an agent's exclusive - these don't suck as much). An option gives the company the right to make your story into a movie if production starts before a specific period of time ends.

Kate Thornton · Jul 19, 2007

Soccer Mom said:
A gooood warning to heed. Did you faint? I would have.

I didn't faint, but I had to adjust my heart medication on the spot. Yes, it was a great feeling!!!!

Berry · Jul 19, 2007

Stijn Hommes said:
An option gives the company the right to make your story into a movie if production starts before a specific period of time ends.

That's not entirely correct. An "option" is just a fee the production company pays you to promise not to sell the film rights to anyone else for the option period. If the project gets greenlighted, then they STILL have to buy the rights, usually for a LOT more money than the option fee.

Jamesaritchie · Jul 20, 2007

Berry said:
That's not entirely correct. An "option" is just a fee the production company pays you to promise not to sell the film rights to anyone else for the option period. If the project gets greenlighted, then they STILL have to buy the rights, usually for a LOT more money than the option fee.

True. I have screenplays under option right now, one of which was based on a story I had published. Unless you're a famous writer, options won't make you rich, but the money is still a nice thing to have.

I'll also add that sometimes an option can be picked up by an actor, a director, or any interested party. Options don't always come from production companies, though this is the most common.

Stijn Hommes · Jul 20, 2007

No, but you do get rich if your screenplay is optioned multiple times before it actually gets greenlighted and sold.

Jamesaritchie · Jul 20, 2007

options

Stijn Hommes said:
No, but you do get rich if your screenplay is optioned multiple times before it actually gets greenlighted and sold.

Maybe if it's optioned a thousand times, or so. Options generally pay very, very little, unless you're a famous writer with a household name, and even then the money can be surprisingly small.

I have one screenplay that's now had the option renewed several times, and I still haven't earn as much from it as I received for an advance with my last novel.

Roadfish · Aug 3, 2007

When you say options pay very little, how much is very little?

Jamesaritchie · Aug 5, 2007

Roadfish said:
When you say options pay very little, how much is very little?

Anywhere from $500 to $5,000 is about normal. An option really doesn't mean much. It's just means you can't sell film rights to anyone else during the time the option is in effect. It's not a film deal, it doesn't mean a film will ever be made, and it's usually fairly short term.

Stephen King can get a lot of money from an option. The average writer can't.

Bo Sullivan · Aug 5, 2007

Jamesaritchie said:
Anywhere from $500 to $5,000 is about normal. An option really doesn't mean much. It's just means you can't sell film rights to anyone else during the time the option is in effect. It's not a film deal, it doesn't mean a film will ever be made, and it's usually fairly short term.

Stephen King can get a lot of money from an option. The average writer can't.

Oh what a dream it would be to get offered up to $5,000 for your work. I live in hope!

Roadfish · Aug 6, 2007

Is a short story treated by agents in the same way a treatment for a film?

javili · Aug 13, 2007

I think short stories become films mostly by being "pulled" by the film industry, not "pushed" by agents and writers.
Somebody reads a good story and wants to do a film. Or they have seen a lot of Phillip K Dick short stories do well as films and start looking for the next one. Or some such.

Just my impression.

Jamesaritchie · Aug 14, 2007

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javili said:
I think short stories become films mostly by being "pulled" by the film industry, not "pushed" by agents and writers.
Somebody reads a good story and wants to do a film. Or they have seen a lot of Phillip K Dick short stories do well as films and start looking for the next one. Or some such.

Just my impression.

Films get made in all sorts of ways. You generally get nowhere by pushing a short story, but you can get somewhere by writing a screenplay based on the short story, and pushing that.

And an agent/publisher can make sure the short story is read by the right people. Sometimes this is all it takes.

Film rights for short stories

lostlore

Soccer Mom

Crypto-fascist

Twizzle

Cluck that.

Kate Thornton

Still Happy to be Here. Or Anywhere

Soccer Mom

Crypto-fascist

Stijn Hommes

Know what you write...

Kate Thornton

Still Happy to be Here. Or Anywhere

Berry

Jamesaritchie

Stijn Hommes

Know what you write...

Jamesaritchie

Roadfish

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Bo Sullivan

Roadfish

javili

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