Serious Question for you Poetry Room Regulars

MacAllister · Jul 12, 2007

SYW and the Flash Fiction Room and Writing Exercises, Prompts, and Games have all been moved to the new AW Workshop Forum.

So my question is this:

Would y'all rather have your crit subforum moved over there with the other hands-on, nuts-n-bolts of writing stuff; or would you prefer it stay here where it is now?

Poll going up in a minute.

poetinahat · Jul 12, 2007

Well, what do you think?

Some points to consider:
- Your work would still have password protection from web crawlers
- Poems would be separated from other poetry topics
- We could remove password protection from the main poetry boards
- Poetry threads would then show up in the New Posts listing

Another question:
- If we do move the Critique and Chapbook boards to the Workshop forum, is it still worth having separate Games and Discussion boards? Do you think it would be better to put all the non-SYW threads into the one main Poetry board?

Pat~ · Jul 12, 2007

poetinahat said:
Well, what do you think?

Some points to consider:
- Your work would still have password protection from web crawlers
- Poems would be separated from other poetry topics
- We could remove password protection from the main poetry boards
- Poetry threads would then show up in the New Posts listing

Another question:
- If we do move the Critique and Chapbook boards to the Workshop forum, is it still worth having separate Games and Discussion boards? Do you think it would be better to put all the non-SYW threads into the one main Poetry board?

As long as it's still password protected, I'm flexible; critique/chapbook can go either place and I'll be happy.

Personally, I like having the organization of still having separate Games and Discussion boards. The Poetry Forum is just so big, some threads can get lost otherwise.

Will the Haiku threads go to Share Your Work?

ddgryphon · Jul 12, 2007

I vote no for several reasons:

First of all, I'm happy with the whole section password protected, because who knows what might end up in a thread.

Second, I think that our poems inform our discussion and our discussion informs our poetry -- they are a joined bundle.

So, no, no, a thousand times no.

Stew21 · Jul 13, 2007

I'd like to see it all stay in one room. However, I would say that only the critique sub-forum should be password protected. and the other sub-forums should disappear into the main poetry forum. So the main board (not password protected) would have discussion, games and exercises and chapbook poetry, while one sub-forum contains poems for critique and maintains its password protection.
Just my two cents.

A. Hamilton · Jul 13, 2007

Is it possible to have access to it from both menus?
I'm happy where it is, and like the way the poetry forum is set up, with everything all together. But I think the forum might draw a little more interest if we had a spot with the 'big dogs', and it seems kinda odd not to be there, the segregation might make us look snooty, or unwanted. :tongue

A. Hamilton · Jul 13, 2007

Somehow I missed Rob's entire post. I'll have to come back.

MacAllister · Jul 13, 2007

OH! PH, you're brilliant! I can put the room over there that automagically redirects back to here!

Stew21 · Jul 13, 2007

that sounds like a great idea. I still think that should be the only piece of the poetry forum that should be password protected though, and all other sub0-forums should fall under the main poetry forum.
AW Chapbook poems can also go into main poetry forum, I think.
Just my opinion. I think it would make us more accessible!

davids · Jul 13, 2007

Do not much care but we should have a prose-etry forum for prose-etricians feeling at least marginally prose-etronical

dclary · Jul 13, 2007

We can barely get our stuff read and critiqued here where there's poets looking for it. Moving it out there would be like changing the programming time for a new series with a small fanbase...

The ring of death.

NeuroFizz · Jul 13, 2007

I agree with David.

ddgryphon · Jul 13, 2007

2x what Deek and Nero said.

LimeyDawg · Jul 13, 2007

I can't imagine anything wrong with making changes that draw more folks in to this forum.

skelly · Jul 14, 2007

LimeyDawg said:
I can't imagine anything wrong with making changes that draw more folks in to this forum.

I think all the folks that want to come to this forum are already here.

poetinahat · Jul 14, 2007

I'll hold my vote back until the end.

Here's another idea for reorganising:

Wherever the Critique board ends up, put the Chapbook board inside it. Then one password protects all those poems.

If we do that, there are two remaining questions:
- Should the Games and Exercises threads have password protection?
- Do we re-combine the remaining boards?

Anyway, something to consider.

MacAllister · Jul 14, 2007

I've put up a link that brings anyone who clicks to the Poetry Critique room.

I think Poet and William have both made an excellent point about the "New Posts" feature not seeing in here, and the fact that this room looks like it's all but abandoned, from the main menu.

I wonder what people are comfortable doing, to try and mitigate that? Trish has made a couple of suggestions -- what do you think?

kdnxdr · Jul 14, 2007

However this all turns out is how it turns out.

I was just thinking that sometimes the games and discussions inspire something I write that I like and I claim as a poem, or the nucleus of a poem. And, I really like the password protection of everthing. So, maybe I agree with something someone else has previously posted?

kid

MacAllister · Jul 14, 2007

I completely understand that, kd, and I'm not planning on taking it away.

I'm also thinking that Haskins has a point, and that I absolutely adore the spontaneous way poetry can happen -- ML comes to mind, where the commenters regularly and spontaneously explode into sort of impromptu poetry threads, a cross between performance and jam session.

In terms of bringing poetry to the open waters -- I think it's valuable and crucial, and I love Trish's poems about AW regulars, for example, which unfortunately are behind a password wall.

A. Hamilton · Jul 14, 2007

Thanks Mac!
I'm good with the games and discussions being moved back in the main poetry section. I don't post a lot in the Chapbook section yet, so I think those that do should have the biggest say there.

jst5150 · Jul 14, 2007

Like materials should be kept with like materials. Plus, I'm not sure the sort of nuts-and-bolts review given to poetry here is the same as the nuts-and-bolts handling of other writing. This is due in part to the fact that everyone believes they have some sort of handle on the other stuff while poetry is still voodoo. Like being asked to critique a Pollock or a Klee. Sure, we could say something, but, we're just giving a WAG.

Leave it here and let's figure out a way to disable the spiders without the password.

louisgodwin · Jul 14, 2007

P.H.Delarran said:
Is it possible to have access to it from both menus?

I agree. Excellent idea!

MacAllister · Jul 14, 2007

louisgodwin said:
I agree. Excellent idea!

That's been done.

jst5150 · Jul 14, 2007

Just an additional thought: the games and exercises are chocolate milk. They draw a lot of folks attention. However, they usually de-evolve. More office party or coffee break that substance.

And that's where I'd put more Google ads.

jt

jst5150 · Jul 14, 2007

dclary said:
We can barely get our stuff read and critiqued here where there's poets looking for it. Moving it out there would be like changing the programming time for a new series with a small fanbase...

The ring of death.

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