Brushing cat's teeth

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My oldest cat (17 years) had to get 5 teeth removed yesterday. The vet said the teeth were probably causing him some pain. I guess it's normal for an old cat to have bad teeth, but I wonder if I have been neglecting dental care with our cats. With the dogs, I've used Milk-Bones to keep the teeth clean. Does anyone brush their cat's teeth? I've heard of people doing that.
 

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Here's instructions for brushing: cat's teeth , dog's teeth. It states "this should be fun for you and your cat". They haven't met my cats; I imagine they would bite the hand that brushes them.:D
 

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I tried for awhile- it wasn't too bad b/c I broke it down into steps and staid calm (even when contorting to keep my cats still).
Finally I gave up and fed dental treats. Not sure if they worked, but they made me feel better...
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My oldest cat (17 years) had to get 5 teeth removed yesterday. The vet said the teeth were probably causing him some pain. I guess it's normal for an old cat to have bad teeth, but I wonder if I have been neglecting dental care with our cats. With the dogs, I've used Milk-Bones to keep the teeth clean. Does anyone brush their cat's teeth? I've heard of people doing that.
My concern here is a vet who wants to anthesise(not spelled right) at this age....they usually don't. Very risky as cats don't tolerate as well as dogs. Hmm-- Teeth are an animals life however and can lead to many other diseases, just like in humans. I don't know but I'd talk with a few more vets.
 

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My first cat used to have a problem with plaque. The vet would notice whenever I took the cat in for her annual checkup. Once or twice I had them clean her teeth.

And I agree with Oarsman . . . it WOULD NOT be fun for me or my cat. Especially me . . . I'd have to stock up with blood in case I needed a transfusion afterwards.
 

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They make brushes for dogs, and this nice little finger cot for cats. The idea is you put the tooth paste (and please GOD understand you don't use human tooth paste) on the finger cot, then "slip your hand into the cat's mouth and rub the cot against their teeth."

:roll:

Okay, in all seriousness, I've had clients who could actually do this. But even I couldn't, and not a single vet I worked with could do it with their cats, either. Dogs are a bit easier, especially if you start them out as puppies - they think it's a special thing.

Yes, dental health is an important issue in pets - they don't brush like we do, but have plaque and gingivitis just like we do, hence the "dog breath". What I do, and recommended to clients who - like me - valued their blood supply, was to make sure your feeding plenty of dry kibble (even if you (gag me) feed wet, make sure they eat kibble as well). Whenever you see visible plaque buildup, or a serious reddness along the gum line, they should go in for a checkup and a cleaning.

When they reach a certain age, anesthisia isn't recommended - but if you keep up on it that won't become a problem. Pulling teeth is a last resort, but a necessary one to prevent serious and potentially deadly mouth infections.

Dry kibble, plenty of crunchy treats specifically designed for dental health, and you keeping an eye on their mouth health is the best prevention.

*steps off soapbox*

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Yes, dental health is an important issue in pets - they don't brush like we do, but have plaque and gingivitis just like we do, hence the "dog breath".

The vet used something that he said was equivalent to laughing gas instead of the normal anesthesia to be safe. The poor kitty...he's old, deaf, and now missing teeth. He still rules the house, though. Speaking of breath, he's had the worst fish breath for months--the cat, not the vet. :D
 

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Whenever you see visible plaque buildup, or a serious redness along the gum line, they should go in for a checkup and a cleaning.
This will prevent the need for a root canal, and possibly dentures later on.

And really, it's not brushing their teeth that the problem, it's doing the flossing afterwards. They keep wanting to chase the floss.

Another animal tip from your truly. Or not so truly, you be the judge.
 
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The vet used something that he said was equivalent to laughing gas instead of the normal anesthesia to be safe. The poor kitty...he's old, deaf, and now missing teeth. He still rules the house, though. Speaking of breath, he's had the worst fish breath for months--the cat, not the vet. :D

Ether or Halogen - both are known as Ultra-Ultra fast acting (which is overkill for - they don't go down deep and bounce up fast) :D

Ether has the added bonus of smelling like juicy-fruit gum, and gives you that wonderfull fuzzy/dizzy feeling that really hits the spot after a har -- oh, um . . .



nevermind.


I've known many cats who, after having several teeth pulled, go on to live long, obnoxious lives with silly, toothless grins :D

All hail the gumsters, I say!
 

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I had a dog with a toothless grin. She got kicked on the right side of the face by a horse when she was young and the abcessed teeth had to be removed. Because she had no front teeth on the right side of her face, her tongue always hung out that side of her mouth. It gave her the silliest grin.


BTW--she lived until the age of 18 1/2--so I don't think life w/o teeth was too bad for her.
 

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Thanks!

In a perfect world:
cat-toothbrush.jpg
 

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My cats try to chew on my toothbrush, too, but it's not to brush their teeth.

A friend of mine once had a cat who was always bad tempered. Eventually the vet realized the cat had a bad tooth and pulled it. Afterwards, it was as if it was a different cat. They think the cat had been in pain for a long time, so once the tooth was gone, the cat's temper improved tremendously.
 

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I'm a lurker in this forum, but I'll throw my two cents in:

Like the connection in humans between bad teeth and heart disease, I've been told they've found a similar connection in cats between bad teeth and kidney disease. Once you start going down that road (kidneys failing), there's little turning back. So vets are looking more closely at teeth and dental care and extracting the bad teeth they find... especially in older cats, since older kitties are much more likely to be in early stages of kidney failure...

Ok, sorry, back to lurking now....

Michelle
 

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Michelle, don't apologize for adding something which might help a pet's health. That's interesting - I hadn't realized there might be a link between teeth and other problems.
 

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Ah, just hate to bust in and spout off words of "wisdom" without properly saying hello.... ;-)

I wish I could attribute the details about the dental problems connected to kidney disease, but it was something my vet threw out there while we were treating my cat's chronic renal failure (CRF). Through an online group I joined, it did seem like a disproportionate amount of cats with CRF had dental issues. We were fortunate that it never seemed to be a problem for our cat.

Our other cat however, is the poster cat for "don't even try it". Our vet is a patient man with many battle scars who insists on teeth cleaning... and even he backs down. Often.

Michelle
 

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I dug up my old notes- not as helpful as I thought, but straight from the microbiologist's lecture:

Complications - Increased incidence of bacteremia leading to endocarditis or infections in other areas of the body.

Bacteremia being bacteria in the blood stream.
 

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Indeed, bacteria are the problem, just like in humans. When I was in school, there were still two thoughts on the matter of brushing your pet's teeth - since the issue arises from the constant "swallowing of" bacteria, and the dangers in swallowing globs of tartar that break off, along with the intrusion of bacteria via gingivitis.

One thought was that routine cleanings were the best route, because the pet can be anesthetized and the tartar scraped off (ultrasonically) and the mouth rinsed, and any damaged or problem teeth can be pulled.

The second way of thinking was to teach owners to brush their pet's teeth daily or weekly, to prevent tartar buildup.

Now Thought #1 didn't like Thought #2 because pets can't spit - so you're breaking up all that bacteria and having them swallow it. You're also rubbing their gums, and if gum tissue bleeds, bacteria gets inside, voiding the whole point of brushing them.

Thought #2 didn't like Thought #1 because it wasn't preventative medicine, it was old school.

Both Thoughts argue about the other being "in it for the money". Product sales vs Service costs.

My thoughts: Brush if you can, use pet toothpaste not human toothpaste, and a water bottle to "rinse" out the mouth (I can hear you laughing) But if you CAN'T brush your pet's teeth - simply keep them in mind, feed dry kibble, give dogs dental toys, cats can have crunchy treats made specifically for this, and take them in for yearly checkups.

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Now Thought #1 didn't like Thought #2 because pets can't spit - so you're breaking up all that bacteria and having them swallow it. You're also rubbing their gums, and if gum tissue bleeds, bacteria gets inside, voiding the whole point of brushing them.
And Thought #3 (me) thinks it would be in for the fight of it's life if it tried to stick a toothbrush in it's kitty's mouth. She has claws . . . and she ain't afraid to use 'em.

I would have an easier time getting kitty to brush my teeth!