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macalicious731
01-12-2005, 12:15 PM
A friend and I were having a conversation, and we came up with a little grammar issue. Since I know we have some people here who just love disecting this sort of thing, I post for you a question.

Would it be:

"He toasted over champagne."

Or could it also be:

"He toasted champagne."

The second version implies to me that the drink itself is being toasted, not an occasion.

Okay, thanks!

detante
01-12-2005, 12:19 PM
Hmm, I thought it would be:

"He toasted with champagne."

-Jen

sc211
01-12-2005, 12:33 PM
"He raised his champagne to make a toast."

"The toast was classic - funny and moving and made with champagne."

"We all had champagne and toast."

mr mistook
01-12-2005, 12:39 PM
"He drank the champagne and got really toasted." :lol




Seriously though, holding up the glass of champagne, you are *proposing* a toast. The toast is the act of swallowing the champagne in honor of some person or ideal. So you definitely cannot toast *over* champagne. You would *propose* a toast over champagne - or with champagne.

Technically, you can toast champagne - in other words you can swallow champagne - but for it to be a toast, it must be in honor of something previously proposed for toasting.

katdad
01-12-2005, 12:39 PM
And the toast itself? My favorite:

"Some love is fire, some love is rust, but the finest, cleanest love is lust."

maestrowork
01-12-2005, 12:47 PM
You make a toast with Champagne.

Of course, bread would be yummier.

Seriously, if you must use it as a verb, I'd say "he toasted over/with champagne."

"Toasted champagne" means he makes a toast about the champagne.

sc211
01-12-2005, 07:56 PM
Two short, witty bits on why they call it a "toast"...

www.german-toasting-glass...sting.html (http://www.german-toasting-glasses.com/information_library/history_of_toasting.html)

www.janeausten.co.uk/maga...254&step=4 (http://www.janeausten.co.uk/magazine/features.html?pid=254&step=4)

Risseybug
01-12-2005, 10:17 PM
I think he should toast with toast.

Kallahan
01-13-2005, 12:37 AM
I would think putting champaign in a toaster would be dangerous. :)

macalicious731
01-13-2005, 12:53 AM
I would think putting champaign in a toaster would be dangerous.

Kallahan, that's what I thought when my friend came up with that sentence structure.

Ok, I knew people here would have an answer - thanks!