Question about posting my own earnings

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I would like to blog about my own (rounded to the nearest $100) gross monthly earnings from writing. So to be clear, this is something I personally totally want to do.

Now these earnings are across multiple publishers but logically come predominantly from one or two of these.

My question is, is there a reason not to do this? Legally, ethically, in terms of my publishers' interests?
 

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Personally, the one area I flatly refuse to talk about with other writers is money. I think it's a hot-button topic that can ruin friendships.
 

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I don't think I am in that situation. I don't forsee personal fall-out--for a start, we aren;t talking a lot of money here and I get exactly the same deal as every other author with these publishers. But I am less sure on professional/legal grounds. (Of course I am paying correct taxes etc)
 

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John Scalzi did it here, and the response was very positive, from what I saw.

Double-check your contracts, just to be safe. I don't believe any of mine have an NDA that covers advances or royalty amounts.
 

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I don't see a formal non-disclosure of any sort except one on one contract that relates to disclosing internal business practises...
 

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I'd say it's totally up to you. While I agree with Jackie that I don't generally ASK what authors earn, I don't mind discussing what *I* earn if someone asks. But it is definitely a hot button topic, so the only question you need to ask yourself is the reason you want to blog about it. Since individual income is subjective by both genre and reader taste (and so, reader purchase) will readers of your blog gain insight into either the industry or genre from the discussion? If so, then go for it. :)
 

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I will point out that it can (but won't necessarily) have a somewhat negative effect on your publishers' perceptions of you. Because it's such a sensitive topic, and can stir up resentment and anger and panic from other writers who think, "Why does she make more than I do?", I think publishers can perceive it as troublemaking. (I fully acknowledge, however, that it's in the publishers' best interests, not authors', to keep everyone ignorant of what people get paid.)

And some big, big authors talk quite freely about advances, contract terms, etc. on writers' loops, so it's not that it's not done. But you need to consider the possible fallout if your editor or publicist reads your blog, and be prepared for whatever may come.
 

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And some big, big authors talk quite freely about advances, contract terms, etc. on writers' loops, so it's not that it's not done.

I was going to say something similar. There are some major names that I've heard get pretty specific about numbers at conference workshops, if not on websites. Not to the penny, but ballparks, like the publishers lunch type of thing that reports "deal" and "nice deal" and "very nice deal" or whatever the categories are. The number of zeroes in an advance and the number of books it's for, and what, if anything they expect to earn over the advance.

I'm sort of up in the air on whether to do it in any more detail or in a semi-permanent venue (compared to a workshop that might be tape-recorded, but only in limited distribution and the tapes stop being available in a few years).

I think it's good that writers are getting together and talking money (as in Brenda Hyatt's "show me the money" website, and RWA's got a "second sales" column that gives ranges of figures for sales without giving specific names), so we're not quite so timid and accepting of the least little crumb that's offered. (Not that my publisher offers crumbs; I'm happy with them, and they met/exceeded my expectations, so this isn't personal.) I see too many writers -- and women particularly, and this is true in the folk art realm, too, where I have experience as a quilter -- who have the attitude of "I love what I'm doing, and any money I get is gravy, so I'll take whatever's offered and be grateful."

Wait, wait, stop me before I head into that whole rant and forget the original question. Except I don't have any good ideas for you. Definitely not legal advice, b/c this is outside my expertise/jurisdiction. But not even professional advice. I've auditioned a dozen different answers, and keep coming back to "I dunno."

JD
 

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I'd say it's totally up to you. While I agree with Jackie that I don't generally ASK what authors earn, I don't mind discussing what *I* earn if someone asks. But it is definitely a hot button topic, so the only question you need to ask yourself is the reason you want to blog about it. Since individual income is subjective by both genre and reader taste (and so, reader purchase) will readers of your blog gain insight into either the industry or genre from the discussion? If so, then go for it. :)

Cathy said it much better than I ever could.
 

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My reasoning related to my website 'the erotic romance epublisher comparison site' (erecsite.com).

I, personally, am a very happy epublishing writer. But I am aware that many writers enter this area without carefully considering whether it is their best option. I had two goals for the site, one was to identify the better epublishers as there is a large gap between the performance of the top 8-10 (and some niche genre providers) and the rest. The other was to foster realistic expectations. E-presses work well with some kinds of fiction and sales are rising with the top presses, but it is still not a way for most people to earn what I would call serious pay-the-morgage sort of money--and those writing stuff suitable for ther mainstream NY guys should probably send it there.

That is where this idea comes in. As best I can judge I have quite typical sales for an erotic romance ebook writer with a day job. I think it would be instructive to discuss what that means in terms of my money, how much it varies month by month and the sort of things that effect it. I feel this would be useful information in the current rather closed-mouth sitaution for the ranks of ebook writers--most of whom have no idea what typical sales would be.
 
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