Prologue vs. 1st Chapter

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Now, I've seen this A LOT in this forum. Lots of people tend to shy away from prologues and hate it when it's used. My question is why? Also, what do you guys prefer...prologue or first chapter? I think prologues can be very useful for the story if written well. But even if it's written well, would people prefer to just change it into a first chapter anyways?
 

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I like prologues. I like to read them and to write them.

That said --

enough people don't like them,
or skip them,
or consider them confusing
or think they break up emotional involvement in the ongoing story

that I wouldn't use a prologue unless I reeeeealy needed one.
 

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Now, I've seen this A LOT in this forum. Lots of people tend to shy away from prologues and hate it when it's used. My question is why? Also, what do you guys prefer...prologue or first chapter? I think prologues can be very useful for the story if written well. But even if it's written well, would people prefer to just change it into a first chapter anyways?
I have a prologue in my post Deception, only because I feel it sets the premise of what's happened and a second part to the Pro sets in motion a major mysterious character. But I know when I start getting replies back for it, I'm going to be told to loose it.

Prologues to me set a scene up, whether it be as a backstory or show what happened before the main action happens.

It's all how the writer wants to view their story and that's what it is, their story. So if you have a Pro, use it with pride. :)

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I don't read prologues unless I can see they are really essential to the plot and/or if its an extremely well written novel.
 

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I would never ever skip a prologue if I was reading a book. I'm actually so surprised at the number of people who say that they would.

That said...I'm not a huge fan.
My WIP has a prologue--the first time I've ever included one.
It's only a paragraph.
Just a little note, to set the tone.
 

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When I was little I learned quick just by reading that I was unlikely to be reading about any of the characters mentioned in the prologue later, so I just skipped them.

That said, I have a prologue in my book.

Isn't life wonderfully complicated!
 

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I don't read prologues unless I can see they are really essential to the plot and/or if its an extremely well written novel.
If you don't read them, how could you see whether one was essential or not? :D
 

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I'm using a prologue in my YA-horror. It provides background info but is vague enough to peak curiosity. By skipping the prologue the reader may miss out on the set-up of the horror. However, the prologue is not essential to undertanding the storyline.
 

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Prologues can be good devices when used well. There are also a lot of pitfalls. I would avoid narrative prologues and stick with action that happens well before the novel opens that is essential to or enhances the story in some way.
 

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Hey I have a question. Can someone tell me a prologue that was essential to the story. Like if you didn't read it, you'd miss out on something really important? Genuine question, not a leading one, I promise! :)
 

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I've found a prologue to be handy in a first draft. However, I've learned that for me, anyway, they're not an organic part of the story. Part of working on my second draft is determining what parts of the prologue are necessary to the story, and putting them in the story—then getting rid of the rest.

I tend to write a very close-in POV, so it's more natural to me for the reader to learn things right when the character does. I'm working on the second book in a series right now, and I came down to an irreducible nub of prologue, a piece of information from the first book that I need the reader to have right from the start of the second. (I won't know, of course, whether they've read the first, and I want both books to be entertaining, independently of each other.)

I ended up putting less than half a page of former prologue right at the beginning of Chapter 1. I think it's necessary, but it's making me nervous all the same. Maybe by the time I start the third draft a better solution will have occurred to me.
 
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Okay, confession: I love prologues. I always read them and most of my novels have one. I feel like it's a chance to look at the story in a totally different way-- to get your reader in a certain mindset before introducing them to the main action.

Recently I picked up this fantasy book that had the most FANTASTIC prologue ever, and I was immediately gripped by the characters. Then I started on the novel itself and was SO disappointed when the characters I had met in the prologue were just background to the main story! I was like, what the heck? I don't care about these new people who aren't compelling. I want the prologue people back! I ended up just taking it back to the library, unread-- that's how disappointed I was by the contrast (the main story was poorly written as well).

I'm not sure what that says about prologues in general. I mean, it made me super excited to delve into the main story. But it was utilized poorly, so it detracted from the rest of the novel. Anyway I like prologues and epilogues both-- I feel like they are "bookends" for the story. I never knew that there was this negative stigma surrounding them. I have heard people tell me that they skip them before, but the only people who've said that to me are stupid non-readers anyway. (Sorry, but people who pooh-pooh reading ARE stupid...)
 

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The problem with prologues, especially in genre fiction, is that they're too often used to Set The Scene rather than Get The Scene Bloody. After wading through so many prologues that do nothing but tell readers how the world was created, or what was special about the MC's parents/grandparents/famous, important, and symbolic ancestor, people are jaded.

So, if you're really married to the idea of a prologue, my recommendation is to make sure it contains a compelling conflict. Start said conflict as early as humanly possible (line one is good) and then find a way to wrap it up (or not) in a way that makes people want to move on to chapter one. Characterization and worldbuilding are all well and good, but you need to feed 'em to the reader with a spoonful of sugar in the form of A Plot. If you're not using your prologue to get your plot rolling, chances are it's going to be boring, and people are going to skip it.
 

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I use a prologue mainly because my first chapter starts out in a peaceful place, and I had to grip the reader before that and sort of get them prepared for what was coming next. I also wanted to introduce the backstory that the characters would inevitably drawn into. The prologue is one of the only places where the point of view is shifted, so it's somewhat like third-person limited.
As for my opinion, I almost always read the prologues, but I can see why some people would want to skip it if it doesn't grip them right away.
 

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In the thread with the epilogue, I went into how the epilogue could be, if well rendered, told without being told through the story its, rendering the strong suggestion that the epilogue would happen anyway. Epilogues, after all, contain a different direction, and that's not quite the same as a resolution. If it is, I would just make that my last chapter, not label it as an Epilogue.

That being said, the same is true in reverse. While I think it is useful to write a prologue that has, as for the epilogue, a different direction than the main novel, for purely notes purposes, true prologues I usually skip over when reading. Many times, however, people make Chapter 1, because it is from a different point of view or in a different place into their prologue, INTO their prologue by slapping that title on it. However, you can easily just make your "prologue" into Chapter 1 if it is pertinent to the main story arc of your novel. For instance, Eragon's prologue could have been Chapter 1, and thus I don't skip it when reading. However, this loose relation (not instant gratification like in Harry Potter's chapter 1-2 relationship, where we are left with harry then immediately return to him) could render it either way, and for that reason I would say it is likely that he made named the first section the Prologue, or Prelude, as it were. Both Harry Potter and Eragon's first sections, however, are set in a different time and from a different point of view. They are bound up in the main story arc so intimately, however, that personally I'd side with calling each "Chapter 1" as Rowling did for her story.

Touching on the true prologue, however, where there is a different aim than the main story arc, but nonetheless contributes to it, I would personally leave it for my note pile, but still make it. It would then be my task to render that section useless through weaving it through the story. My preference for leaving it in would most likely only be in the case of unlabeled prologues, like songs or short pieces of background that strike you and beg the question "why is this here?", acting as a hook for the story, which indeed includes, in its own manner, all the subtleties of the "prologue", which was brief and intriguing- worth the reader's time because it was short and pertinent in the broad sense of the story. As for weaving the prologue IN, even if it isn't present, you take both theme and substance and work in the necessity for the prologue being there into your story, enhancing it in the process. If the prologue is mostly for background, have the reader discover that as they go. If it is a sub-plot's inciting incident, have the sub-plot in the story, and have it be guided by that initial point, revealing what you want when you want to. This idea follows for many purposes that prologues might serve.

However, if you want suspence (though I believe there are better ways of doing this), you can potentially use the prologue to do so, though in this case I don't think you even need a prologue- like I said before: make it chapter 1.

Good luck!
 

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The big problem with prologues is many people feel "prologue" is greek for "skip this". So, don't put anything in a prologue that you want to be sure your readers will read.

I actually put a prologue in one of my books and when I was reading the book for the first time (in print), I skipped it. Since then I've avoid them.
 

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If you don't read them, how could you see whether one was essential or not? :D

I was thinking the exact same thing!

I also just realized that I have hardly read any books with prolouges. I read one recently and I didn't think too much of it
 

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I skip prefaces but not prologues. I use them when there is a distinct time shift i.e. something happens either in the future or in the past. Neither my agent nor my editor had a problem with me having a prologue and epilogue.
 

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I've found prologues to be mainly useful to me as the writer of them. Writing one helps put me in the time, place and mood of the story and helps get me grounded. But later I always end up taking them out because they aren't relevant to the main plot and only add to the word count. Since I tend to write long, I need to cut anywhere I can.
 

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Hey I have a question. Can someone tell me a prologue that was essential to the story. Like if you didn't read it, you'd miss out on something really important? Genuine question, not a leading one, I promise! :)

G. Martin's prologues in the "Ice and Fire" series. Jordan's prologues in the WOT series (they don't call them prologues, but they are what they are)
 

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I posted this in a related thread, but go look at all the best sellers at the local bookstore.

Most have prologues. Some have 12 page prologues.

Some folks hate them, some folks love them. Seems to me, publishers like 'em.

I'll quietly slink away now.
 

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Joe270 said:
Most have prologues. Some have 12 page prologues.

Some folks hate them, some folks love them. Seems to me, publishers like 'em.

I'll quietly slink away now.

You wanna be banned, boi?! >_O

Just kidding :p Point is that readers are smart. They can usually tell (both publishers and readers), what is important or not. While I would suggest making everything important, many readers find that skimming over a prologue is ok because there are parts that aren't and parts that are. Publishers like a good story, not prologues. If a prologue happens to be part of a good story, they'll probably not cut it out - but the title "Prologue" is a nice way to delineate that there is likely not critical info in that sections, so it's ok to skip over it. "Chapter 1" however, carries a bit more weight.

Maybe those published just use it to gain a foothold with their audience... and if they skip the prologue, be a sign to them "you haven't given the story a chance! if you don't love chapter 1, just go back to the REAL beginning... wink wink"

Just a thought. :)
 

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When I took karate we used to say, "the only difference between a block and a punch is intent." Same with prologues. The good ones do the same as a good first chapter. The ones that suck are the ones that are nothing but scenery with withheld information.
 
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