Any agents who accept unfinished manuscripts?

Dario D.

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I was wondering if anyone can point out some agents who specifically accept queries for unfinished fiction novels. I know they're out there, but I have to do lots of searching between each one I find.

Anyone know of any right off the bat?
Thanks. It would help a lot.

PS: I know some of you are just itching to jump in and say, "I don't think it's a good idea to submit unfinished material," but I've already gone over it several times, and find it to be my cup of tea until the novel is finished. I appreciate the concern (really), but wouldn't care to discuss it, if you don't mind. :) If they're specifically accepting unfinished material, then there's no problem in my book.
 
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They are out there. And 99.9% of them are scammers!

If you manage to find one...well just don't. Finish your MS. Then revise it about 6 times. Or a dozen. Read Self Editing for Fiction Writers by Browne and King. Apply what you've learned. Revise some more.

Then it MIGHT be ready to send out.
 

Dario D.

I'll add a line to the end of my disclaimer:

PS: I know some of you are just itching to jump in and say, "I don't think it's a good idea to submit unfinished material," but I've already gone over it several times, and find it to be my cup of tea until the novel is finished. I appreciate the concern (really), but wouldn't care to discuss it, if you don't mind. :) If they're specifically accepting unfinished material, then there's no problem in my book. Also, I research each agency before accepting anything. I've read the horror stories.
 

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No I haven't

Dear Dario D,

But a long, interesting life has taught me that there's an exception to every rule. However, I've also learned that success leans toward the rule far more than the exception.
I tried your idea when I was a new writer. I wrote 4 nearly perfect chapters and slapped together 200+ pages of schlock on the end to say it was completed. The ending was just junk. I'd send off the obligatory 3 chapters and agents loved it. I got multiple requests for the full manuscript, which didn't exist. I thought this would add pressure and inspire me to clean up and write the perfect middle and ending. The problem was there were plenty of other writers with completed manuscripts sending them to the same agencies. They got their novels published. The agents expected a completed work on their desk in 10 days or less. Most will allow a few days delay for a final read and tweaking. To get the first 4 chapters perfect took me months and months. The final 16 were probably more than a year's hard work away. I threw the endings together and got rejections. The agents could see that I could write well, but that didn't matter. They wanted a well-written and complete novel. Several of them commented on the discrepancies between the first 4 chapters and the junk that followed. I fooled no one. While I can't completely discount your idea, I'd suggest you be within striking distance of the end. If you figure the novel is a likely 320 pager, the first 310 pages should be finished and possibly edited 6 or 7 times through until they're as close to perfect as possible. An unfinished manuscript 10 days or less from completion might be okay. That way you can lock yourself in a room with your laptop for a 70 or 80 hour marathon session to polish it. After that it's a piece of cake to send it off in a timely manner, before the agent decides to represent nonfiction exclusively, isn't seeking new clients or doesn't remember who you are.

All my best,

Over-the-transom and through-the shredder,
Transom-Jumper
 
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Frankly, I don't know of a single fiction agent who does take uncompleted novels.

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I know you have a million disclaimers, so I won't say anything. I was just genuinely curious why you wanted to look into agents before completing the MS.
 

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Sorry, I've never run across any agents who say they're willing to look at incomplete manuscripts.
 

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In 1994, my first book was from an approach from Rosen Publishing Group to write FOSTER HOMES for teenage reluctant readers. Gina Strazzabosco later told me I beat out fifty-some other applicants for the honor.

The book was somewhat of a success... Then, after writing three complete novels, to which there was no interest from some-hundred agents, I received a request from Enigma Books for my manuscript investigating child spies of World War II. Hopefully they are for real... They are the first I have approached.

Moral: non-fiction is easier to break into than fiction. However, I didn't bother with an agent this time. I have some three hundred rejections from agents for the novels. I think they [the agents] automatically associate my name with REJECTION!
 
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Many agents will try and sell, and editors accept and buy, partial manuscripts ONLY if you're an already successfully published author. I have many friends who sell on synopsis and proposal, but only AFTER they've had one or two successful books under their belt. I've never head of an agent that will do it for an unpublished author though.
 

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As Manat said, if you want an agent who will read and represent your uncompleted novel, first sell (and do well with) another novel.

The rules in non-fiction are different: there selling on proposal is more the norm.

The only question I'd have for the OP is why? Why do you want an agent for a manuscript that doesn't exist?
 

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I'll add to the chorus: unless you're already a successful writer, a reputable agent is not going to be interested in an unfinished novel. Also, since no one else has mentioned it, I will: "fiction novel" is redundant. A novel is by definition fiction.

- Victoria
 

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I hate to sound harsh, but 99.9% of the time, the only agent who will take on an unfinished novel from an un-published author is as clueless as their potential client.

If that's what you want, go for it. I'll stick with my beautifully polished manuscript, my top tier agent, and my high goals. You're not going to get any of those without putting in the work first. Trust me. (And Victoria and James, and Toothpaste who are all in the same position.)

Sorry if that sounds harsh, but I think it's also pretty insulting to come on here and say, "Give me advice . . . nonono! Just the advice I want."

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When will the madness end???????

Literary agents who only accept finished manuscripts? Did Adolf Hitler make up that rule? Are Nazis running the literary agencies? The next thing you know my boss will want me to complete a job before paying me. Yeah, right! The madness is spreading, too.
Recently a mortician refused to embalm and bury my gravely ill uncle. The blasted mortician wouldn't accept him as a client until he was officially dead. Talk about a stickler! There was a sale going on and my penny-pinching Uncle Bob figured he was 2/3rd's of the way dead anyway, so why not get the discount? My uncle tried to reason with him, but the heartless bugger said that the Reaper's work had to be finished before the discount applied. The sale ended and poor old Bob never got buried. Worse yet, he made a full recovery and is expected to live another 40 years. Can you imagine how expensive a burial will be then? A similar thing happened to my wife. She was two months pregnant but the pediatrician insisted that she deliver her child before he was fitted for the corrective shoes he needed for his flat feet. The bastard wouldn't even treat my unborn son's near-sightedness. Madness! Madness!

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I have to admit I do not know any agents specifically who emphasize that they do -- but I do know that most agents at some point in time have considered unfinished material - most notably from prior published authors and MFA students whose short story work garnered awards.
When an agent sees a spectacular premise that can be uniquely told by that author then all bets are off. I understand Diana Peterfreund sold her first novel as a partial but she also had quite a body of work as a freelancer.
 

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Honestly Dario, what were you expecting? I guess we could have all just answered "no" to your question and have done. Would that have been better? (hey at least we answered your question, you didn't answer ours, namely what your goal was. Possibly if you would share that with us, we could understand the motivation and help more. Sometimes the question we ask won't get us the answer we actually want. For example, my hairdresser listens patiently to me tell her what I want. And then she does her own thing, and gives me what I was actually asking for)
 

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You can (sigh) all you want but the fact is there are no short cuts in this business, Dario, unless you have strong sales figures to back it up.

Any agent worth having will want to see a completed fiction manuscript before signing you.
 

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Finish it. Then the issue is resolved. The reason that agents don't want unfinished MSS from unpublished authors is because they don't have any guarantee it will EVER be finished. The only way to prove yourself able to finish is to do it.

Regards,
Scott
 

Dario D.

Honestly Dario, what were you expecting? I guess we could have all just answered "no" to your question and have done. Would that have been better?
Yes. There's nothing wrong with saying no, as I asked a yes or no question. I also asked very politely to keep it limited to yes or no answers, and clearly stated that I've gone over this before, and didn't need lecturing. Isn't that worth respecting? Doesn't someone who's been there and done that not need to go there and do that again, especially when it's made clear and requested?

I'm grateful for those of you who were just trying to warn me, and who did so politely, and I even agree with you. Flying blindly with potentially scam agencies is indeed unsafe.

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But now, for those of you who do NOT have gentle suggestions, let me go over my thoughts. First of all, I submit very few unfinished queries (3 so far), and only when I find the opportunity between my writing. My focus is getting my novel finished and polished, as I've done before. Second, I only submit to trustworthy agencies. For my first novel, I was quickly "accepted" by The New York Literary Agency, but immediately went to look them up before even replying. Now, I'm even more cautious.

And finally, to give testimony to my successes with the occasional unfinished query, I've only submitted 3, and gotten 2 positive replies. Both were rejections, as it didn't fit their list, but one praised how interesting it sounded, while the other *almost* bought it, and asked me if they could look at it again when completed. We went back on forth on it for a while, talking about how it's told and better presented to this particular genre.

The latter was none other than Andrea Brown Literary Agency, who have been referred to on this forum as "the big dogs" of Young Adult. They don't normally look for unfinished manuscripts, but I asked them about it since their website doesn't specify, and was invited to query. Not a bad start for some casual querying every now and then.

When the novel's finished, I'm going to hit the querying hard, but it never hurts to have generated some interest before completion. Not at all... In fact, I find this rather motivating. I find it useful in two ways: 1) If they like it, I know my time isn't being wasted, and that I'm on the right track. 2) If they don't, I have time to re-think my approach, and make sure I don't complete a big blunder.

I rather like the outcome, as my initial reason for sending an unfinished query in the first place was just to figure out if I was writing something marketable or not. I got the answer I was looking for, and then some, so it has helped me greatly.
 
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the other *almost* bought it, and asked me if they could look at it again when completed.

Sounds to me like your "success" story gave you the same answer everyone else did. You didn't ask "is it possible to drum up interest on an uncompleted novel," you asked about agents who accept incomplete novels. You already got the answer from a great agent. No.

Maprilynne

BTW, we're not here to be gentle with you, we're hear to tell you the truth. And while simple "no" would have spared your feelings and ego, there are lot of newbie lurkers here who glean info from other people's question and I think it is veryimportant that they understand why this is a bad and unrealistic idea and why.
 
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Dario D.

My "success " story was indeed a success. The answer was not "no", it was "I like it. Get back to me". Not only, but it was achieved in only 3 submissions, with one other response that I very much like.

But even all that is to be put aside, because every novel is different. If I had gotten all "no" answers, or all "yes" answers, it would have benefit me just the same. As I said, my initial goal was to test the water, and get insight as to what agents thought of my in-progress novel, so that I could have time to make adjustments. And it served to accomplish that very thing. It may not work for you, but it has worked for me very well, and I love the option.

Also, the agents I've dealt with so far have been more interested in seriously considering my query than telling me there's anything wrong with my approach. If they accept, they accept, and that's because they see no reason not to. If they don't accept, then I don't query them.
 
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Dario,

What Maprilynne said.

Plus: I'm fairly new to the boards, but not to the conventions of normal courtesies. When people generously give their time and expertise at your request, it's customary to say thank you.

And no, you did not ask a yes or no question. You asked for names of agents who accept unfinished novels. You got the long answer because the short answer would have validated the premise of your question--that
there are indeed lists of reputable agents out there willing to look at unfinished fiction from unpublished authors.
 

Dario D.

When people generously give their time and expertise at your request, it's customary to say thank you.
I agree, and said to them:
"I'm grateful for those of you who were just trying to warn me..."

However, you said "who generously give their time and expertise at your request"... The problem is that I did quite the opposite of request that.

And no, you did not ask a yes or no question.
I asked: "Anyone know of any (agents) right off the bat?"
And the topic of my thread is: Any agents who accept unfinished manuscripts?

The default format of answer is either "No" (or no reply), or "Yes, and here they are."

Have you considered the possibility that this is a formula response given to people who query about unfinished manuscripts?
No, as I went back and forth with them discussing the novel and future representation. It was not a simple "no" answer, as I explained in that post.

Even then, like I said earlier, *anything* that happened is beside the point. Every query will have a different response, so there's no use arguing that all attempts are guaranteed to fail. My testimony is that queries for unfinished material can succeed like any other query. All you need is a trustworthy agent who accepts it. That's it. If they don't accept it, then you don't query them until you're done.
 
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