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Hi all, I'm interested in some opinions here.

Two-and-a-half years ago I started writing my first YA novel, and finished the first draft in eight months. Since then, I've learned a tremendous amount about writing a novel. While I was revising/rewriting/distancing-myself-from the first novel, I started and finished a second one (much shorter) that I'm very happy with. Now, the second one is ready to be sent out, but the first one will be ready within a few weeks.

Personally, I think the first one has a better hook. After all this time, and having worked on it until I'm almost sick of the thing, my throat still tightens up (in a good way :tongue) when I read the summary (which, incidentally, grabbed the interest of the first agent I sent it to last year (I'd sent it out to just one before I realized how much work it still needed; she declined after requesting and reading the first 30 pages, which doesn't surprise me, considering what I now know).

So, my questions - Would you wait until the first novel is ready and send that one out first, or go ahead and see how the second one fares? And regardless which one goes out first, pretending that the first couple rounds of agents show no interest, would it be alright to go back to the top of the agent list with the next novel, while still sending the other one out (in other words, can I query two seperate novels at the same time, in the same genre, provided that one has already been rejected by an agent before the next one is sent to that same agent?)?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts and opinions!

Liz
 

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How did you finish your YA novel so quickly?
 
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Eight months? I wrote the first draft of a novel in a month and am working on the edit now. That sounds like boasting, and I apologise for that; it wasn't my intent. But the longest I've spent on a first draft has been six months exactly. 1st October-31st March. And that was while working full time.
 

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When do you eat, sleep, and bathe?
 

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Query your best work, but make sure the other novel stays in top shape. An agent may decline to rep the work you send them, but if they like your style, may ask if you've written anything else. Then you've got something ready to show them.
 
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When do you eat, sleep, and bathe?

Normal times. Just like everyone else. It's all about using your spare time wisely. When I sat down to write, I...well, I just got on with it. The 6-month first draft, when I was writing that - I had a rule, 10 pages a day. And I more or less stuck to that. In 6 months, the draft was finished. I had a social life, I got chores done, I had other work...but I just got on with it. There wasn't a sign of writer's block (which I don't believe exists anyway but that's for another thread) and I simply...wrote a lot.
 

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Thanks so much for the replies! I will most likely finish up the first one and send that out, but it was feeling kind of pointless to be sitting on the finished one.

It took me about six or eight weeks to write the first draft of the second novel, after I'd pondered it and jotted notes for a month or so. That one, in technical terms, is laid out much better and is faster-paced; however, the first one just does something to me. I'm hoping some agent out there gets the same vibe from it :).

Liz
 

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It took me about six or eight weeks to write the first draft of the second novel, after I'd pondered it and jotted notes for a month or so. That one, in technical terms, is laid out much better and is faster-paced; however, the first one just does something to me. I'm hoping some agent out there gets the same vibe from it :).

Liz

That is the trick!

Note, 6-8 weeks is a nice pace for writing a first draft. That's the pace I like to go. I figure if I average 2500 words a day working 6 days a week in about 6 weeks I'll have a nice rough draft.
 

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When do you eat, sleep, and bathe?


You can eat while writing. I do it all the time. Eat with one hand (and mouth, obviously) and keep typing with your other hand. It's even easier if you're writing longhand.

Sleeping is overrated, honestly. The worst that happens if you don't sleep is you hallucinate, and really, what could be more fun for a writer?

I have no idea what a "bathe" is but I'll go Google it.
 

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I have no idea what a "bathe" is but I'll go Google it.
I do hope you 'bathe' peedee cuz, well, ick.

The amount of time you have is directly proportional to the number of children you don't have.
 

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Gosh, you people make me look like a sloth. I probably am. It took me 18 months to finish the first draft of my novel (but only 3 months to edit) and it's taking me, um, over 2 years to write this one. What can I say? I am slow.
 

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I do hope you 'bathe' peedee cuz, well, ick.

The amount of time you have is directly proportional to the number of children you don't have.
I have epilepsy. If I don't eat and sleep we have problems.
 

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Gosh, you people make me look like a sloth. I probably am. It took me 18 months to finish the first draft of my novel (but only 3 months to edit) and it's taking me, um, over 2 years to write this one. What can I say? I am slow.

See I'm the reverse. I write the draft fast (before it all leaks away and I don't remember it) but it takes me a while to edit.
 

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It took me about a year to finish the first draft of my first novel (still editing that one). But I'm more than a quarter finished the first draft of my second and I've only been working on that one for two months. Oh, I also don't have a job right now.
 

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I have epilepsy. If I don't eat and sleep we have problems.

Ah, so that's what you mean by "I survive with half a brain" in your sig.

So yes it's extra important for you to eat and sleep and keep a good schedule. (Sometimes the graduate student in me slips out.)

Don't worry about the amount of time it takes others to write a their novels, we all work at different speeds. There is no right or wrong way.
 
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I used to write much faster than I do these days. I blame AW for it, but can't quite treat it as anything other than a bad side effect. :)
 

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Gosh, you people make me look like a sloth. I probably am. It took me 18 months to finish the first draft of my novel (but only 3 months to edit) and it's taking me, um, over 2 years to write this one. What can I say? I am slow.
You have beet me. I have been try to write this story for 8 years.
 

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I used to write much faster than I do these days. I blame AW for it, but can't quite treat it as anything other than a bad side effect. :)

Ah, you're just getting old. ;-)

Actually we don't get slower and more forgetful when we get older it's just we have so much more to think about that more items get lost in the shufffle.
 
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Ah, you're just getting old. ;-)

Actually we don't get slowly and more forgetful when we get older it's just we have so much more to think about that more items get lost in the shuffle.

Writing wise, I do think that's it. I worry a lot more about things in my writing these days than I did when I was younger. Lawd knows why.
 

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The amount of time you have is directly proportional to the number of children you don't have.[/quote]


And the amount of ideas your brain generates is directly related to the number of children you do have. When inserted into the full equation, though, the neediness of said children at any given time must be factored in, so that when the urgency to get a brilliant idea written down before it dissipates peaks, the neediness factor must be used to divide the time quotient to a frustratingly inadequate value. :D
 
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I completely disagree with that^^^. I know authors with two, three, four kids who are more productive than those with none. If someone doesn't want to write, they'll always find a reason and children are a convenient excuse.

Just you try writing with those pesky head-voices, on the other hand...
 
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