A novel about obsessive-compulsive disorder.

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Would anyone be interested in reading a novel about obsessive-compulsive disorder? I've had OCD for 10 years and have experienced every single bizarre experience one could possibly imagine, been on every single drug you could imagine, been in and out of mental hospitals, met all manner of lunatic. I just finished and sent out a short story after spending years working on autobiography. I have thousands of pages of autobiography, so I'm torn between writing autobiography and outright fiction. Does autobiographical fiction sell? Does autobiography sell? I could show you samples of my autobiography if it would help.
 
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To be honest, I wouldn't get past the first page.

I'd be too busy counting the letters in the first paragraph then double checking just to make sure I got the number right.
 

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I would not be interested in reading a novel about OCD. HOWEVER, I might very well be interested in reading a novel that features an interesting character who happens to HAVE OCD.

Like Monk, for example. Monk is not a show about OCD. It is, however, about mysteries being solved by a guy who happens to have OCD.

Do you understand the difference? So, take this character, put them in a plot that's NOT about their OCD, and just let us see how this character deals with living life while dealing with OCD.

Just my .02, which is actually worth less than that. :)

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I grew up in the Jackass Capital of the World, no joke---Columbia, Tennessee. My mother was a rabid fundamentalist who declared war on everything heathen, from Halloween to the Smurfs. Everything had to be about Jesus---if I wanted to do karate, I had to do Karate For Christ. Then, one day, I had my first obsessive-compulsive attack and stopped wearing underwear and she freaked out. Then all the kids at school found out. It's actually an extremely colorful short story with tons of weird details. Like my next-door neighbor never left her bed, accept once, to try to steal 85 million dollars from the Saturn plant. I knew about this because she was the sole client of my pet-sitting service---she paid me five dollars a week to scoop the crap out of her litter boxes (she had tons of cats). Also, the vice-principal of my sister's school was accused of sexual harassment, fired, kicked out of his church and he kidnapped his wife and killed the both of them with a shotgun. He was a friend of my mother's. Hell, I was driven to and from school by a bus that broke down every other day, or burst into flames, driven by a 76-year-old man (he was engaged to a 42-year-old woman) and we had to scream for him to stop at every stop sign or he'd go right into traffic---he went over speedbumps at 50 miles an hour. There was this weird Asian cult who thought the town was the center of the universe and one day God would come down in a silvery, cigar-shaped spaceship. I've also done a lot of other interesting stuff I could throw in---I met the love of my life on the Internet and flew to Minneapolis to live with her, having never even seen her face before, and have since had lots of adventures---like appearing fully nude in an independent film. So, I don't know, I think this stuff is colorful, but I'm very unsure of myself, so I always need to be constantly asking for, you know, approval. If it's bad, I'd like to know that, too. And it's not that I don't have tons of fictional ideas down. I just think autobiography should be the bedrock of all good fiction.
 

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I just think autobiography should be the bedrock of all good fiction.

I very strongly disagree with that theory, but if it does you some good, go for it. For me, I lump it in with being literal with "write what you know" as 'damn silly talk.'
 

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The problem with the autobiographical approach is that you are not likely to have a very tight or coherent plot. "It really happened to me" is not a very powerful unifying theme and unless you're very famous, not enough to hold most readers. Unless, of course, you've got a really great writing voice.

Far better, I think, to incorporate elements and experiences from your life in a fictional story with a nice, tight plot.

I just think autobiography should be the bedrock of all good fiction.
Yikes. Not. The ability to identify with the character, yes.
 

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Yikes. Not. The ability to identify with the character, yes.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with that either, but it raises my hackles less than autobiography does. There can be a delight and a joy from having characters so strange and alien that you cannot perceive them properly at all.

Which is not to say all your characters should be like that. But it can be used effectively for a character or two here and there.
 

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PeeDee, I was thinking of the main character, primarily. And "identify with" was probably a bad choice of words. "Get in his/her head" says it better perhaps. I have a hard time imagining a main character so alien that even the author couldn't begin to get a handle on them.
 

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PeeDee, I was thinking of the main character, primarily. And "identify with" was probably a bad choice of words. "Get in his/her head" says it better perhaps. I have a hard time imagining a main character so alien that even the author couldn't begin to get a handle on them.

I understood what you meant. I wasn't arguing, I was musing on the topic and wandering off on my own thoughts. Sorry. :)
 

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I have read a couple books on writing, "Writing down the Bones" and "The Forest for the Trees" and in them they make a comment, that we all put a bit of ourselves in our first novel. I wish I could think of the exact quote but it eludes me just now.

I don't know how many people will agree with it but the suggestions is to just go ahead, write the story and get it all out and finished. Then if it isn't something you can publish you will have that tendency to write about yourself out of the way.

Oh and just a thought but why not put the book into a non-fiction form instead of a novel? I think a good deal of people could benefit from your personal experience.
 
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That quote is fair enough. There will always be bits of you in your story, in your characters, in the dialogue. Of course there will be. That's how it works. That doesn't make it autobiographical -- except perhaps by reading a lot of that author's books and having a bit of osmosis happening.
 

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Casi, that's an old concept, that the first novel is autobiographical. Maybe that's one of the advantages of starting writing so late in life - I am well over the idea that my life and my person are fascinating to anybody but me.

Having said that, there are bits and pieces of me - and other people I know - in most of my characters, but my WIP is not even remotely autobiographical.
 

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That quote is fair enough. There will always be bits of you in your story, in your characters, in the dialogue. Of course there will be. That's how it works. That doesn't make it autobiographical -- except perhaps by reading a lot of that author's books and having a bit of osmosis happening.
Do you think though that we put more of our personal experiences in the first book or is it just something we will always do?
 

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Casi, that's an old concept, that the first novel is autobiographical. Maybe that's one of the advantages of starting writing so late in life - I am well over the idea that my life and my person are fascinating to anybody but me.

Having said that, there are bits and pieces of me - and other people I know - in most of my characters, but my WIP is not even remotely autobiographical.
Hey Judg,

That is interesting...thanks for letting me know that. :) I also find that many of my characters are similar to people I actually know or have met. Right now, I am struggling with some things that are just a bit too real in one of my characters and I am trying to figure out how to back up a bit to do a good job of portraying them.
 

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Heck, yeah, I'd read it. I can't get enough of OCD stories. People with it are plagued by some really bizarre rituals. I'd prefer a memoir to fiction, myself. Truth is stranger than fiction, and all that.
 

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Heck, yeah, I'd read it. I can't get enough of OCD stories. People with it are plagued by some really bizarre rituals. I'd prefer a memoir to fiction, myself. Truth is stranger than fiction, and all that.
I think many people are intrigued by the other characteristics that many OCD people have. I know someone who is absolutely brilliant and I can't help but this his OCD helps him pursue things so he can be that brilliant. If I were a little more OCD I might have the five different WIPs finished by now.
 

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Do you think though that we put more of our personal experiences in the first book or is it just something we will always do?

It can go both ways. Either you're uncomfortable with your first novel and thus are writing it like you have your jacket zipped up all the way, and thus there's nothing of you in it....or else, you're scared and having trouble and so you put yourself into the novel, because you at least understand that much.
 

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I'd buy and read a book about your life *if* it was well written and treated the subject of your life with OCD, your family, and your town, with humor and respect - if it was mocking or mean spirited, I wouldn't read it. Wouldn't matter whether it was labeled fiction, non-fiction or "semi-autobiographical" fiction.
 

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Agreed. One James Frey is enough for this man's lifetime.
 

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It doesn't really matter if a novel is autobiographical or not, it still has to conform to the contract writers make with readers. That is, "I promise to grip you in the start and make you want to keep turning pages until you get to the end." As much as I like the details you shared, and I really did, without paragraph breaks, I was unable to finish it.
 

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Wow, I just wrote out about four paragraphs that made no sense at all and thankfully read back over them before posting. My brain isn't with me, today.

What my point was: if you think you can do it, if you want to do, if you feel the need to do it -- do it.
 

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Would anyone be interested in reading a novel about obsessive-compulsive disorder? I've had OCD for 10 years and have experienced every single bizarre experience one could possibly imagine, been on every single drug you could imagine, been in and out of mental hospitals, met all manner of lunatic. I just finished and sent out a short story after spending years working on autobiography. I have thousands of pages of autobiography, so I'm torn between writing autobiography and outright fiction. Does autobiographical fiction sell? Does autobiography sell? I could show you samples of my autobiography if it would help.

I'd continue with the autobiography. Autobiographies and memoirs can do really well. Think Maya Angelou and Frank McCourt. Which one are you writing anyway, an autobiography or a memoir? I especially think autobiographies wouldn't translate well to fiction. Most people want novels about specific dramatic sections of the character's lives, not an entire recounting from birth onwards.

Additionally, I think that an attempt to translate autobiography to fiction would have a good chance of being lousy as the work would not likely be approached with the idea of making the reader suspend disbelief and providing them an entire coherent story where everything fits together, which fiction needs. Nonfiction doesn't need this because people already know it's true and they accept that real life can seem random.
 
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