Punctuation on Rhetorical Questions

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TrickyFiction

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So, it seems odd to write, for example, What if she really wants you to say, "I would never go with you?"

Is that right? Should there be a question mark at the end even though the quotation is a statement? It looks very strange to me, and it makes me want to read the statement as a question too.
 
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What if she really wants you to say, "I would never go with you"?

In this instance I would put the question mark outside the quotes.
 

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Why? Rhetorical or not, what is the rule or reason for the punctuation to be outside the quotes.

Because, Train, the rhetorical question -- in question -- isn't actually the question. :)

Now, say "toy-boat" three times fast.
 

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That's not really a rhetorical question.

The question mark goes outside the quotes because what's in the quotes isn't the question. "I would never go out with you" is a statement.
 

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Ah, thanks so much, everyone! It was kinda driving me nuts. :) So, a question mark goes on the outside of the quotation marks if what is inside the quotation marks is not a question. Got it.
 

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So, just to expand on this... What if the phrase inside the quote is an exclamation, but the whole sentence is a question? For example:

Why did he scream, "You hate me!"?

That also looks weird. Is it correct? Does anyone know how this sentence should be written?
 

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If the question is in the dialogue, then it goes inside of the quotes. If you're asking question and referencing something previously said, then it goes outside of the quotes.

"You hate me?" she asked, with tears in her eyes.

-As opposed to-

Did she say, "You hate me"?
 

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So, just to expand on this... What if the phrase inside the quote is an exclamation, but the whole sentence is a question? For example:

Why did he scream, "You hate me!"?

That also looks weird. Is it correct? Does anyone know how this sentence should be written?

Avoid the exclamation point -- it doesn't even make sense. How can you quote an exclamation? The "scream" in the sentence is already clear about the context.

The correct form is:

Why did he scream, "You hate me"?
 
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