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Hello everyone. I've been on this board a while now and, every now and then, slip into the humour section of SYW. And each time that I do, well, the same thing always happens.

You see, kind folks, I am from England, where the humour seems to be, well, a little different. The work that I read on SYW is, for the most part, always well written and presented and I often I see critters referring to something being so funny that they spit out their coffee or fall on the floor laughing. And I just sit there not getting it. I will read over a piece again, just to make sure it isn't me then, with a heavy sigh, move my mouse towards the top of the page.

Out of all the genres it seems that humour is the one that lmost loses in translation. Mysteries, thrillers, romances, sci-fi, none of these seem to have this problem.

A lot of the humour on this site seems to be centred around hometown or domestic experiences experiences, gently told in a homely style that is always pleasant to read. And that is the problem, for me. It is nothing more than pleasant.

Just wondered if anyone had any thoughts on this. Is humour the most difficult genre to cross those cultural boundaries or am I looking at it in the wrong way . . .

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Lifelong, I rarely visit SYW so can't comment specifically about the humour bits you've seen there. However, as a Canuck, long-exposed to British humour, I think I can help you.

Read the pieces while picturing the writer doing a Silly Walk while farting and leering at a busty young woman. If this fails, it's time to haul out the heavy artillery and imagine the writer being an overweight, hirstute man dressed as a woman and reading his story in a shrill falsetto.

You're very welcome. :)


On a (somewhat) serious note - humour is, of course, subjective. There are movies and tv shows which leave me breathless with laughter and occasion a shrug and arched eyebrow from others.

And maybe those critiquers were just being kind and the stuff was dry as dirt. ;)
 

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Don't worry too much, life long. Humor can change town to town even in the US. My humor is mostly misunderstood but I can keep some people I know in stitches. What are you going to do? Just laugh at what's funny.

"...but she just laughed because she knew her money was in her shoe."


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I don't get British humor. It took me years to finally laugh at Life of Brian. And Mr. Bean might get an amused smirk, but hardly a belly laugh. He is cute, and like you say, it isn't unpleasant to watch, but hardly what I call funny.

I can assure you that some of the stuff in SYW is uproariously funny! But the parts I laugh at the most are ones I relate to most. So I'll bet a lot of what you've experienced has to do with culture.

For instance, do you know who Molly Ringwald is or what movies she was in? (And more importantly, did you ever want to BE Molly? That's important.) If not, you might not understand Pamelajo's piece, called "She's So Fine." But I REALLY thought that was funny, and I'm hard to please when it comes to humor.

Maybe some of the Brits on the board could post some humor in SYW. Or maybe you could! We could educate each other. :)

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I have never found Mr Bean funny, clever in parts, but never actually funny.
The Monty Python films, particularly Life of Brian, have always made me laugh. The Meaning of Life was also really funny, if a little less consistently so. 'A wafer thin mint, sir' . . .

I suppose the humour that I like, which appears to be particularly British, although I may be wrong here, is the surrealistic lunacy of the likes of Spike Milligan, some of the Monty Python stuff, Eddie Izzard and, more recently, Sir Ricky of Gervais.

On this board, I find Angelus very funny.

British humour runs the gammut from the old Benny Hill slapstick, which I hate, to the observational brilliance of Peter Kay. It tends to be sardonic, sarcastic, and, sometimes, merely a stream of consciousness that makes very little sense. It is the last of these that I find the funniest.

I hate sitcoms with a passion, wherever they come from.

Coming from an English working class background, most of the humour I encounter tends to be somewhat near the knuckle, which wouldn't translate well on the page. My own humour is a little off the wall and not really based, I suppose, on what you would call a literal reality.

When I get a moment, which may not be for a couple of weeks, perhaps I will post a little something on SYW, should make for interesting discussion . . .

Kind regards,

Lifelong
 
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:welcome: Lifelongdagger! Bet there's a good story behind your username?

Bring on that Brit humor. If you aren't a Benny Hill fan and like Monty P. and Eddy I., I know I'll like it!

Glad you're here. You'll find us HUMOR people superior in every way. And fun.
 

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Welcome Lifelong!
I'm crazy for Brit humor, I think Eddie Izzard is one of the funniest people on the planet and I have a secret crush on the entire crew of Python. I also love Dawn French and watched AbFab for years.

Not big on Bean or Benny, they're a bit... off.

I can't wait to see what you've written! :)
 

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Humor is like a drug, it packs a punch when it's formulated correctly, but the same dosage can affect people differently. I like both British and American humor.

I agree that many stories in SYW are "homely," as you described, (and those do find a marketable audience, by the way) but they are not all confined to that description. In my last story, I shot a cat in the face. A story from earlier this month was about exploding breast implants. Wynter wrote a great tale about trying to go poo while her daughters had all kinds of drama outside the bathroom door. Dreamworks writes plays about a dildo named Sammy.

What I'm saying is, I completely respect if a humor piece doesn't grab your funnybone. Humor is subjective. The only exception to this is if you don't like mine, I'm going to assume there is something wrong with your brain.
 

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As an American who frequently writes the "homey pieces" in humor SYW, I get that this might not be your cup of tea as it were, but we'll keep trying to make you snort your Earl Grey if you give us a chance.

I like Angelus's writing but I find it largely incoherent and therefore frustrating, I want a story.

A lot of humor pieces are local color. One of the funiest illustrations that I was in Deep Lousisana Country was when my father pulled up to a man walking his dog along side the road to ask directions. "Do you know where Mickey's Bayou Shop on Rte. 3 is?" My father asked the man.

He paused, scratched his dog's ear and said, "Yeah I do but you ain't going right." and went on walking.

We sat in stunned silence and then burst into tears laughing --it's still funny to me, but it may be simply a slice of local color humor. Will try to write a more cosmopolitan piece next time, but remember, people write what they know and what I know these days is, well domestic.
 

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I like both American and UK humor. I like Aussie humor, too. (Good on yer, mates, wherever you may be.) I love the Pythons (though not really Life of Brian -- however, I have Meaning of Life and all its songs memorized...don't ask...), I liked Peter & Dudley when they were active, I could occassionally chuckle at Benny Hill (okay, maybe a bit more than occassionally), Eddie Izzard is beyond hilarious (and was GREAT in Mystery Men), Mr. Bean just makes me sad for Rowan Atkinson.

However, if I get to see them in the original French, nothing beats a French comedy for outright hilarity. (And yet they worship Jerry Lewis. 44 years on the globe and I still don't understand why.)

I like Sherry's home-body-type humor and Riddler's more off-the-wall-type humor and Dreamwork's gay-over-the-top-type humor and sdarb's comfy-type humor and on and on. Like Sherry, I prefer to understand where a piece is going or at least have it tie up at the end.

But, as has been said more than once, humor is extremely subjective. For every movie or comedian that makes me laugh, there's someone I know well for whom they don't even elicit a chuckle.

Dying is easy, comedy is hard. 'Nuff said. :D
 

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It's EXTREMELY hard. That's why I don't want to tell many people I'm attempting to write funny. If they don't laugh, I can say it was, um, supposed to be serious.

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And for proof of THAT, you need only be a judge at a HS Speech & Debate tournament where one duo team is attempting Monty Python's "Dead Parrot" sketch to realize that timing is everything in live comedy, and though the words may be funny, they lose something when translated badly.
 

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LifeLong

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I spent eight days in London last May and did a lot of laughing, much of it at myself. Personally, I like to laugh no matter whose sense of humour I am accomodating. I love Faulty Towers, Waiting for God and Benny Hill really twiddles my day (or night as the case may be). I am addicted to British comedic series of years ago, sometimes the newbies make me laugh. Perhaps my maturity is showing. Anyway, what the hell. my funny bone is always ready to be tweaked in any part of the world.:flag:
 
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