Defintions fetish/kink

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Eeek.

Also, the leech fetish isn't, really.

A kink, perhaps, but not a fetish. A fetish is defined as something sexually appealing even when the person is removed.

Someone being turned on by a woman (or man) wearing high heels=not a fetish.

Someone being turned on by the high heels alone=fetish.

My offer: Someone who collects the seats of chairs that the faded stars of Star Trek have sat in during conventions.
 

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The process of aquiring a fetish is debatable. For example people can develop fetishes through masturbation without the involvement of a second person. I tend to go with the broader definition of sexualising something other than genitals--so even skin colour or biting (part of or an action by a person) could count. But feel free to through anything kinky in, fetish or not.
 
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When an object is desireable as an object alone, it is a fetish. How the fetish is aquired is a moot point.

I object to kink being called fetishism the same way I object to furries at my skiffy cons. They're different things. They should be respected as being different.
 

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In which case being turned on by leeches is a fetish. You raised how it was acquired as the defining feature and I rebutted that, now you contridict it. Confusing and tangental, on the whole.

I didn't call kink a fetish--at most I implied the reverse.

If you object, don't participate. If you want to talk definitions I will split those posts into a different thread--or you could start a new thread. The defintions are not all specific and universal out side of specific verbal communities such as fandom or anthro (or even, as you mention, within them)
 
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Sweater vests can be kinky and fetishistic. LOLOL

((hugs)) make love, not war. :D
 

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In one of my abnormal psych classes, there was a case-study of a German man that had gone to the doctor to complain of neck and head pains. What eventually had come out of the consult was the fact that when he was a child, his mother was convinced he'd kill himself by having something fall on his head, so she made him wear many, many hats. to protect himself. As this caused him to be picked on by school bullies, he'd taken to wearing his lunch between the layers of hats so that it wouldn't be stolen.

So, one day, he was walking past a group of prostitutes and experienced his first orgasm, just as a flower pot fell from a balcony above him and hit him on the head. This was post-war Germany, so the only sandwich his mother could make him was white bread and mayo. As he came, the mayo glooped over his face.

Where is this leading to? Well, thirty years later he goes to an emergency room because his head and neck hurt. The only way this man could achieve orgasm is if he hired prostitutes to hit him over the head with two-by-fours as mayo glooped out between the layers of hats he wore. Thus the neck and head pain.

The documentation was there, I remember specifically checking for it. It sounded like such an urban legend, but apparently it was true.

That was in the start of the fetish chapter. We talked about it for weeks.
 

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Yep. One case I remember was s tudent who was sexually aroused by mathematics textbooks. Apparently he found studying that subject boring and would keep himself going by masturbating at the same time. The end was result was a very interesting reaction to any large book about mathematics.

I bet there's a good story in there somewhere--like what would be the oddest thing one might form an intense conditioned sexual response to?
 

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veinglory said:
In which case being turned on by leeches is a fetish. You raised how it was acquired as the defining feature and I rebutted that, now you contridict it. Confusing and tangental, on the whole.

And to sum up my earlier post and this whole thread, to be turned on by leeches is a fetish.

To wish to apply them to a person's body is kinky. The leeches, by themselves, have no real appeal.

Of course, I've written a story that made my beta make me write "A tire iron is not a marital aid" ten times.

ETA: Also, with fetishists, there is often-occurring issue that without the object of their desire, they have a difficult time/cannot achieve orgasm
 
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