Toward vs. Towards

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Could someone clarify the difference between toward and towards?

Does it have something to do with agreement in number?
 

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Who Watches the... said:
Could someone clarify the difference between toward and towards?

Does it have something to do with agreement in number?

It takes longer to get where you're going if you add the es.

Seriously, the difference is largely one of US versus UK usage. "Toward" is the most common usage in the US, and "Towards" is the most common usage in the UK.
 

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Personally, I use them interchangeably

If I want to sound more flowery, I use towards, otherwise, I use toward. I've never been corrected for it. Perhaps its one of those invisible words we don't notice until someone brings it up. Kinda like,

regardless vs irregardless. Even though irregardless isn't an official word, everyone uses it and it is a synonym for regardless.
 

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regardless vs irregardless. Even though irregardless isn't an official word, everyone uses it and it is a synonym for regardless.

God, I hope not. I sure don't, and neither does any good writer or editor I know. The moment I hear or read the word "irregardless," I assume I'm talking to a person who isn't anywhere near as literate as they should be.

And unless a writer uses the word "irregardless" in dialogue with the purpose of showing a character isn't educated, I'll stop reading and reach for a rejection slip.
 

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dgiharris said:
Personally, I use them interchangeably

If I want to sound more flowery, I use towards, otherwise, I use toward. I've never been corrected for it.


This is bad! (And now you can't say that anymore.)

Perhaps its one of those invisible words we don't notice until someone brings it up. Kinda like,

regardless vs irregardless. Even though irregardless isn't an official word, everyone uses it and it is a synonym for regardless.

The horror! Only ungrammatical bums use irregardless. Use that in a query or opening pages, and you risk getting tossed.
 

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If the Grammar forum ever sports a sticky, I expect the question of toward versus towards would be near the top. This issue comes up often, and it doesn't hurt to remember the spelling difference also applies to upward and downward and backward and forward.
 

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I'm one of those nutty people...

Everytime I see "towards" it's like someone just bumped into me. It draws me out... it drive me crazy. Unless I'm reading a book by a UK or European author - I can't standing seeing "towards". I also find I always comment on it when I critique. I think it sounds off.

Using "irregardless" is like waving a red flag. I can't stand it. The only time I let it slide when I'm reading is if someone says it in dialogue... simply because it is the unfortunate reality that people do use that word.

But I suppose I shouldn't go off on a tangent on that right now :D
 

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James is right. 'Towards' is the Brit version. 'Toward' is the American variation.

Americans are terrible pragmatists, lopping off letters at the drop of a hat: striding the world in their big woolly sox, waving an ax in one hand and their co...py of Webster's in the other.*

In fact this is why Scrabble was invented by Alfred Butts during the Great Depression. Storing all these unwanted letters in warehouses throughout America was putting a strain on an already over-stretched economy. Butts came to the rescue by not only finding a use for them - but by managing to sell them back to the rest of the world. Problem solved. Hurrah!



* And just what exactly did you think I was going to say?
 
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In fact this is why Scrabble was invented by Alfred Butts during the Great Depression. Storing all these unwanted letters in warehouses throughout America was putting a strain on an already over-stretched economy. Butts came to the rescue by not only finding a use for them - but by managing to sell them back to the rest of the world. Problem solved. Hurrah!

I always wondered what they did with all those letters! Thanks for clearing this up.
 

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Really? I could swear that "towards" is used more often in America, especially during conversation. Is one preferred over the other? Or is it like color and colour?
 

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Really? I could swear that "towards" is used more often in America, especially during conversation. Is one preferred over the other? Or is it like color and colour?

It's just my experience, but it seems to me that "toward" is much more common in American writing, on American campus, anywhere there's more education and formality.

"Towards" seems more common with the average person who doesn't read much, or isn't highly educated.

Both are legitimate words, and unlike most UK spelling, I suspect many editors would let either stand.
 

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There's the American vs. British difference. But I also think there's a difference between abstract and concrete:

I walked toward the door.

I have a good feeling towards her.
 

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maestrowork said:
There's the American vs. British difference. But I also think there's a difference between abstract and concrete:

I walked toward the door.

I have a good feeling towards her.

Nope. Even the latter should be "toward," at least in America.
 

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I've argued this before on this topic, but the Brits muck it up. No offense intended to the Motherland. And I know not everyone will agree, but I try :)

"Toward" is better than "towards." Toward is a preposition, and there is no need for the "s." You wouldn't say, The ball is aboves the house. The ball is behinds the house. The ball is nears the house. The ball is ins the house. He threw the ball aways from the house.

The "s" seems sloppy to me.

Oh, and you wouldn't walk forwards, would you? Personally, I wouldn't walk backwards either.
 
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This whole "s" issue is as confusing as:

besides vs. beside
afterwards vs. afterward
backwards vs. backward
 

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Beside for the preposition: She stood beside the statue.
Besides for the adverb: There are other issues I need to work on besides this one.

I'd always go with "afterward" and "backward" for prepositions, for the reason above.
 

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I've argued this before on this topic, but the Brits muck it up. No offense intended to the Motherland. And I know not everyone will agree, but I try :)

"Toward" is better than "towards." Toward is a preposition, and there is no need for the "s." You wouldn't say, The ball is aboves the house. The ball is behinds the house. The ball is nears the house. The ball is ins the house. He threw the ball aways from the house.

The "s" seems sloppy to me.

Oh, and you wouldn't walk forwards, would you? Personally, I wouldn't walk backwards either.


Very good explanation.
 

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Actually, one does walk backwards. This one does, anyway.

I'll have to try that sometime. I usually just walk backward.
 

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And there's sideway vs. sideways.

Note that the American movie/novel is entitled "Sideways." So I am not sure about the American/UK thing.
 

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veronie said:
Beside for the preposition: She stood beside the statue.
Besides for the adverb: There are other issues I need to work on besides this one.


Actually, at least according to the dictionaries, "besides" is also a preposition, and seems to be interchangeable with "beside."

Usage Note: Some critics argue that beside and besides should be kept distinct when they are used as prepositions. According to that argument, beside is used only to mean "at the side of," as in There was no one in the seat beside me. For the meanings "in addition to" and "except for" besides should be used: Besides replacing the back stairs, she fixed the broken banister. No one besides Smitty would say a thing like that. But this distinction is often ignored, even by widely respected writers. While it is true that besides can never mean "at the side of," beside regularly appears in print in place of besides. Using beside in this way can be ambiguous, however; the sentence There was no one beside him at the table could mean that he had the table to himself or that the seats next to him were not occupied.

English is so confusing!
 

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Out of curiosity, what dictionary? The one i refer to, Webster's New World College, makes a clear distinction between beside, the preposition, and besides, the adverb.

Oh, I just noticed your usage note says "when they are used as prepositions." That's the key. I would use beside for the proposition in all cases, I believe.
 
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Actually, at least according to the dictionaries, "besides" is also a preposition, and seems to be interchangeable with "beside."



English is so confusing!

What dictionary? Not one of mine even hints that the two words are interchangable.
 

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Well, perhaps he's right. I looked at it again, and Webster's New World Collegiate does have an adverbial (archaic) usage for beside, and a prepositional usage for besides.

However, it makes clear enough that, in the main, "beside" is preferred for the preposition, and "besides" is preferred for the adverb. And that's how I do it, too.
 
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