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How do you guys choose a title for your manuscript? Do you already have it picked out, or do you decide after you've finished writing? I only ask, because I am stuck on a title for my current WIP. Everything I come up with just sounds flat and boring. They don't inspire me to pick up the book.
 

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It depends. Sometimes the title pops into my head while I'm thinking up the story. This time around I had a perfect title picked out until my story veered off in a different direction. I'm nearly at the halfway point and I still haven't picked a fitting title.

If you're having a hard time you could look at song titles, movie titles, other book titles, and twist one to fit your work.

(I'm sitting here laughing at your profile comments. I, too, avoid geese. Geese hate me. And they bite.)
 

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There are a couple of things that I discovered while working on my WIP. The most significant is the fact that I found that starting WITH a title before I actually wrote a single sentence was counter productive, and I found that I wrote myself into a box and scrapped the WIP after about 60,000+ words.

Waste of time - for me, anyway.

I'm currently working under "Unititled" :D - I think I will have more ideas for a title after the WIP is actually finished.
 

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That's a good idea, aadams. I will perhaps do that when I get home from work today.

Off Topic: I'm glad you are amused by my comments. I really did have a bad experience with a goose. I was camping in TN and one chased me down a hill and nearly bit me in the butt. And all my friends saw. They never let me forget it. :)
 

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So far I've tried slamming my head repeatedly on the desk, but that does nothing but amuse the cats.

I just can't figure a stinking title. I guess it's just going to be "Book" forever.

*sigh*
 

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Carrie in PA said:
So far I've tried slamming my head repeatedly on the desk, but that does nothing but amuse the cats.

I just can't figure a stinking title. I guess it's just going to be "Book" forever.

*sigh*

Can mine be Book Two? I've used thesaurus's and looked up different words that could pertain to my book and all of them suck. Maybe I'll call it "This Title Sucks, but the Story is Good." Yeah, I like that. :)
 

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I have to have the title before I start, or I can't write word one.
 

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Jamesaritchie said:
I have to have the title before I start, or I can't write word one.

I'm the same way. Sometimes I change the title along the way, as I did today. But I need to have one in place that I'm pleased with before I start writing the story.
 

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I usually have a title, even if I change it later. But it's generally something I'm happy with. No such luck in this case and it feels a bit unsettling to me.
 

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If I needed the title before I started to write, I'd never get anything done.

In fact, I write a lot before a title comes to me.

And when I do come up with a title, it's just a filler, named after the MC, his occupation, or in one case, after the tavern the story starts in.

I'm awful with titles.

My current WIP is on something like it's 10th title.
 

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Shadow_Ferret said:
If I needed the title before I started to write, I'd never get anything done.

In fact, I write a lot before a title comes to me.

And when I do come up with a title, it's just a filler, named after the MC, his occupation, or in one case, after the tavern the story starts in.

I'm awful with titles.

My current WIP is on something like it's 10th title.

Far more often than not, the title itself generates the story for me. I don't think of a story, and then come up with a title for it. I come up with a title I like, drop down a couple of lines, and then write a story that matches the title.
 

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It's good to know I'm not alone. I'll come up with an idea before the title, about half the time, but until I have a title -- and one that I'm in love with -- I can't even write the first line. It'll make me crazy sometimes, knowing how the story should start, and end, but be completely unable to begin writing it until "that perfect title" comes to me.

Go figure. :Shrug:
 

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MidnightMuse said:
It's good to know I'm not alone. I'll come up with an idea before the title, about half the time, but until I have a title -- and one that I'm in love with -- I can't even write the first line. It'll make me crazy sometimes, knowing how the story should start, and end, but be completely unable to begin writing it until "that perfect title" comes to me.

Go figure. :Shrug:

We're all anal retentive in our own little ways. :D
 

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I usually start off with a basic premise that's title-less. But once it gets a title and the main characters are given names, everything starts coming together a lot more quickly.
 

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I think I came up with the title before I started writing my novel. The title changed about midway through when the direction of the story changed, and the title had to change to since it no longer represented the story.

If you're stuck for a title, don't beat yourself up too much. My advice is to title it whatever the book is about. For instance, if your book centers around an island and its volcanic activity, call your WIP "Volcano." Not interesting? It doesn't matter since you'll end up changing the title anyway. And once it's accepted by a publisher, they'll change it to something commercially viable.

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MidnightMuse said:
It's good to know I'm not alone. I'll come up with an idea before the title, about half the time, but until I have a title -- and one that I'm in love with -- I can't even write the first line. It'll make me crazy sometimes, knowing how the story should start, and end, but be completely unable to begin writing it until "that perfect title" comes to me.

Go figure. :Shrug:

Title first is something I learned from Ray Bradbury. And in his wonderful book "Zen in the Art of Writing," he says a couple of things about titles.

When talking about his first real, non-imitative story, he writes: "I wrote the title "The Lake" on the first page of a story that finished itself two hours later. Two hours after that I was sitting at my typewriter out on a porch in the sun, with tears running off the tip of my nose, and the hair on my neck standing up."

And: "But along through those years I began to make lists of titles, to
put down long lines of nouns. These lists were the provocations,
finally, that caused my better stuff to surface. I was feeling my
way toward something honest, hidden under the trapdoor on the
top of my skull."

A bit later he writes: "But back to my lists. And why go back to them? Where am I leading you? Well, if you are a writer, or would hope to be one,
similar lists, dredged out of the lopside of your brain, might well
help you discover you, even as I flopped around and finally found
me.

I began to run through those lists, pick a noun, and then sit
down to write a long prose-poem-essay on it. Somewhere along about the middle of the page, or perhaps on the second page, the prose poem would turn into a story. Which is to say that a character suddenly appeared and said, "That's me"; or, "That's an idea I like!" And the character would then
finish the tale for me.

It began to be obvious that I was learning from my lists of
nouns, and that I was further learning that my characters would
do my work for me, if I let them alone, if I gave them their heads,
which is to say, their fantasies, their frights.

I looked at my list, saw SKELETON, and remembered the
first artworks of my childhood. I drew skeletons to scare my girl
cousins. I was fascinated with those unclothed medical displays
of skulls and ribs and pelvic sculptures. My favorite tune was
"'Tain't No Sin, To Take Off Your Skin, and Dance Around in
Your Bones."

Remembering my early artwork and my favorite tune, I ambled
into my doctor's office one day with a sore throat. I touched my
Adam's apple, and the tendons on each side of my neck, and asked
for his medical advice.

"Know what you're suffering from?" asked the doc.
"What?"
"Discovery of the larynx!" he crowed. "Take some aspirin.

Two dollars, please!"

Discovery of the larynx! My God, how beautiful! I trotted
home, feeling my throat, and then my ribs, and then my medulla
oblongata, and my kneecaps. Holy Moses! Why not write a story
about a man who is terrified to discover that under his skin, inside
his flesh, hidden, is a symbol of all the Gothic horrors in history—
a skeleton!

The story wrote itself in a few hours."

And: "I remembered my dog, lost for days, coming home late on a winter night with snow and mud and leaves in his pelt. And the stories began to
burst, to explode from those memories, hidden in the nouns, lost
in the lists."


At any rate, it works much the same for me. I make the same sort of lists, and the lists become titles, and the titles become stories. I skip the prose poem part, but the characters, the idea, the story, the plot, the theme, everything is right there in the title.

I started with nouns and wrote "The Parachute," my first thousand dollar sale for a short story. Then I sometimes expanded the titles. How can you write a title like "A Few Miles South of Nowhere" and not have a story waiting to be written? It went on and on.

A title pulls things from my head that I had no idea were there. I can write all day without a title, and not have a paragraph worth keeping, let alone a whole story. But if I write down a title, one I like, it always comes with a story attached.
 

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Jamesaritchie said:
Far more often than not, the title itself generates the story for me. I don't think of a story, and then come up with a title for it. I come up with a title I like, drop down a couple of lines, and then write a story that matches the title.

I'm glad to hear this, I was afraid it was "just me." I've got about 20 short stories in my mental queue to be written as time goes by. For about half, all I have is the title, but the title is enough, it tells me exactly what the story is going to be about. If I have a title, it seems that I am unable to lose track of the whole concept of the story.
 

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My WIP is titled Deirdre of Sorrow. It came as I was researching names for her character (depressed) and came across the Celtic myth of Deirdre of the Sorrows. I incorporated the myth into Deirdre's story, so the title seemed an appropriate fit. (According to Lulu Titlescorer, there's a 72.5% chance of it becoming a best seller!)
 

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For the book I'm attempting to sell now, I had the title before the story. In the book i'm currently doing the research for, I have a premise, no title, and no plan.

Tis the writing life.
 

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Wow, I'm very relieved I'm not the only one without a title. I thought perhaps I was going crazy. But that's another story. (I can't talk about it, the voices in my head....I mean, my shrink....I mean....oh crap :tongue) I'm one of those anal retentive people who thinks a title is necessary to write the story. I'm glad to know that isn't true, because I'm now about 20,000 words into my novel. I was getting a bit scared I didn't have a proper name for my WIP yet.
 

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Jamesaritchie said:
I have to have the title before I start, or I can't write word one.

Oh, yeah, that's me. Usually title, main character and story all arrive at the same time, full-blown.

Wasn't that way when I was in high school (about 40 years ago). Then I had a whole binder of various stories with no titles. When my English teacher wrote a list of titles on the board for the students to use, I'd just sort through the stories until I found a match, or one I could tweak to match and was done before class ended.
 

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Save your energy

Don't waste too much effort trying to come up with a title. Even if you do, your publisher is almost certainly going to decide the title.

I've sold two major novels to date. Each novel had what I considered the 'perfect' title, and each got changed by the publisher, despite my pleadings.

So now I don't bother wasting time or energy on a title. I just pick something that speaks to me, and get on with the story.

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