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Can someone please clear this up?

Ok, two questions regarding comma usage.

Should this be written:

But the moment he strode through the door Faye could see that something was different, it was ingrained in his flint eyes.

Or

But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different, it was ingrained in his flint eyes.

I'm thinking number one, but please tell me if I'm wrong.

Also, am I correct in thinking that a comma is only used with 'and' when there are two complete sentences either side?

Thanks

A.B


Ok, sorry one more.

It saddened her, her father had no idea she wasn’t strong. She was just good a good pretender.
 
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Ambergold said:
Should this be written:

But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different, it was ingrained in his flint eyes.
Hi Amber. You can place a semi-colon or period between "different" and "it."

Also, am I correct in thinking that a comma is only used with 'and' when there are two complete sentences either side?
That's not the "only" use, though it's a great way to separate two complete sentences joined by "and."

As an aside, what are "flint eyes?" Did you mean "flinty?":)
 

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My take on this: they are all wrong.

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But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different; it was ingrained in his flinty eyes.

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It saddened her; her father had no idea she wasn’t strong. She was just a good pretender

Use semi-colon or period to avoid comma splice. "It saddened her" and "It was ingrained in his flinty eyes" are both complete, independent sentences. You want to use a comma, you must add a conjunction such as "and" after it.
 

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Hi ambergold,

I'm new at this, but I checked a grammar book I've been going through and I wonder if a colon or semicolon might be appropriate?

But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different: It was ingrained in his flint eyes.

According to the book I'm reading, in this type of sentence the structure permits (requires?) a full colon. But if I'm wrong and a comma is appropriate, then perhaps a semicolon would help set off the ending statement a little better?

But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different; it was ingrained in his flint eyes.

Best I can do right now, ambergold. (Anyone else?)

(By the way, the book is called "Grammatically Correct." It's written by Anne Stilman, and I picked it up at the library. It's touted as "The writer's essential guide to punctuation, spelling, style, usage and grammar." It seems very readable, although I've only given a cursory look at it so far).

All the best...
 

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What Eryll said.

But kill the "But," and do you really mean "ingrained"? Think about it.
 

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Faithful[COLOR=blue said:
But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different; it was ingrained in his flint eyes[/color]
I'm faithful to Faithful's example.

So where ya been, Faithful? You should come around more often to keep us honest.;)
 

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Medievalist said:
What Eryll said.

But kill the "But," and do you really mean "ingrained"? Think about it.

Yes, the "but" sounds awkward, but still we don't know what precedes the sentence. The "but" may give the sentence a sense of continuity.
 

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ErylRavenwell said:
My take on this: they are all wrong.

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But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different; it was ingrained in his flinty eyes.

Edited:

It saddened her; her father had no idea she wasn’t strong. She was just a good pretender

Use semi-colon or period to avoid comma splice. "It saddened her" and "It was ingrained in his flinty eyes" are both complete, independent sentences. You want to use a comma, you must add a conjunction such as "and" after it.

I'm more partial to use a dash in place of the semi-colon. But then, I could be wrong.
 

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All your advice is much appreciated. Regarding the 'but' in the sentence, it is added to give continuity.

King, I used 'flint' to describe the characters grey eyes. Perhaps I should have gone with ash, I just wanted something a little different.

Thanks again.
 

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I'd use a period. "But the moment he strode through the door, Faye could see that something was different. It was ingrained in his flint eyes." I have problems with ingrained and flint. Flint doesn't actually have a grain. To me, it's a mixed metaphor.

And here I'd use a semi-colon. "It saddened her; her father had no idea she wasn’t strong. She was just good a good pretender."

But that's just my opinion.
 
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