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Manat

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Not sure if this is the right thread, but here goes. I've been trying to get an agent but no luck yet. On the other hand I've been doing a lot better with editors. {Makes me wonder if editors are looking for the next new thing while agents are looking for the next sure thing).

In any case I had sent a partial to a major e-mail publisher, expecting it to take a long time. When I checked for an update 6 months later they told me to expect a wait of 6 to 12 months before finding out if they wanted the full. A week later they requested the full and a week after that, last night, they made an offer to publish.

Yippee right? Yes and no. I have a requested full at a major house ( kensington) and a medium House (Medallion) and an unsolicited full at another major( MacMillan). I expect to hear from Kensington within a month, Macmillan two, and Medallion who knows? It took 8 months for them to pull the partial from the slush pile.

The editor from the epublisher, (they also do print), has asked that I send her contact info, an agreement to publish, and suggestions as to a title as they already have a book with a similar name. Then they will send me a contract to sign etc. The work, editing, covers etc doesn't start till the contract is signed.

Question 1) If I send an e-mail agreeing to be published is this legally binding if the contract isn't signed yet?

Question 2) If I indicate that I can't commit until I've seen and reviewed the contract and will need some time to do so will that piss them off? They do have a good rep.

Question 3) Do I need to respond , at least acknowledge, today, or is it ok to wait a few days?

Question 4) Should I tell them I am waiting to hear from other publishers? I'm thinking no, that would be seen as rude.

Question 5) The major puplisher said 8 to 12 weeks for an answer.It's been 8. The editor is also the editor in chief and if he says no I may very well be submitting to him again in future with other projects. Will it piss him off if I write ahead of time telling him of the offer and asking for an answer?

Question 6) Agents: Two of the agents I queried are A list, and very successful $$$. One requested the partial 6 weeks ago and I haven't heard since. The other has read my partial twice, once before and once after revisions. She says she loves the writing but thinks the subject matter is too difficult and not marketable and asked to see something else as soon as I had something ready. Is there any point in asking her again, or checking in with the agent with the partial? I wouldn't hesitate if it was the big publisher, but the one who'se offered pays royalties but not advances. Is it worth asking any agent under the circumstances?

Sorry for the long post but I'm new to this, it's my first manuscript and I don't want to screw it up. The offer is from a legit, very successful and growing e-publisher with a print line and they seem to want an answer quick. If I say yes I become a published author. The problem is that if I heard two weeks later from big or mediumprint pub, I'd be bummed out big time. I'd also be bummed big time if I said no thanks and then got turned down elswhere, leaving my manuscript as an unpublised doorstop.

Any advice much appreciated.
Please and thanks
 

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When you queried the agents, did you let them know about the publisher interest? It seems to me that if an agent knew that a major house was interested in your work, then they would be very interested in you as a writer.
 

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Manat:
If I indicate that I can't commit until I've seen and reviewed the contract and will need some time to do so will that piss them off? They do have a good rep.

Personally I'd want to see the contract before I agreed to anything and I wouldn't have thought that any publisher should have a problem with that. You can't give your book to someone without seeing what the precise terms are that you're signing up to.
 

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sammyig said:
When you queried the agents, did you let them know about the publisher interest? It seems to me that if an agent knew that a major house was interested in your work, then they would be very interested in you as a writer.


No I didn't, everything's happened so quickly and I sent out everywhere at once, agents publishers etc. I'd do differently now, start at the top and work down but I'm knew to this and having a little trouble with the learning curve. Also I read somewhere not to tell them if you've submitted to publishers, they call it pissing in the pond
 

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Momento Mori said:
Personally I'd want to see the contract before I agreed to anything and I wouldn't have thought that any publisher should have a problem with that. You can't give your book to someone without seeing what the precise terms are that you're signing up to.

Now that I'm starting to calm down I think you're right. No I'm sure you're right. I need to compose a carefuly worded reply. Thanks
 
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I may be wrong, having never been offered a contract, but in light of the length of time it takes to market a book, I'd say you have time to ponder this a while. Don't rush.

And I heard agents LOVE to get writers that already have a contract offer...look at how much work it saves them.
 

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If it is *the* major e/POD publisher then you might want to grab the offer--but the otherwise I would suggest explaining the situation and asking for some period of time to consider your options.
 

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Manat said:
Now that I'm starting to calm down I think you'r right. No I'm sure you're right. I need to compose carefuly worded reply. Thanks

Just be sure you tell them it's because you want to see the contract, NOT because you've sent it to other publishers. I had a friend who did that and the offer was immediately withdrawn.

Publishers don't like simultaneous subs.
 

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I have no advice, I haven't sent my first ms out yet (seeing as it isn't finished) but wanted to say congrats. :)
 

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Just be sure you tell them it's because you want to see the contract, NOT because you've sent it to other publishers. I had a friend who did that and the offer was immediately withdrawn.

Publishers don't like simultaneous subs.

Ewww! Thank's for the heads up Quinn. I will be sure to focus on the contract.
 

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I'm an unpublished teenager, so take everything I say with a grain of salt, but I would recommend telling the e-publisher that you have several other publishers that are potentially interested in your book, and that you need some time to consider. If they are a good publisher, they will allow you to do this.

Then, if you get an offer from one of the other publishers, I STRONGLY advise you to get an agent (you will probably have them begging at your feet to respresent you, once you've had several offers.) The agent can then take the different publishers offers into an "auction" where the house that bids the highest for your book wins. Or, if you already know which publisher you would like to work with best, than you can just accept them and write a nice note to the other(s), telling them thank you for their interest, but you've found representation elsewhere.

Hope some of this helps. And CONGRATULATIONS on getting this far!! :Jump:
 

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If it was me in this situation I would send an e-mail to the agent who says she loves the writing, laying out the situation and asking if she would be interested in stepping in.
 

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I don't know much professionally so I'll just tell you what I'd do.

Personally I reckon there are any amount of e publishers. You say this one does print. Is it offering you a print run? If not, they're just another epublisher. Apparently, published on the web is a contradiction in terms. (actually I think any pub. is great but that's what some folk say)

There's another pretty good, up and coming epublisher called, wildchild that seem to have pretty big expansion plans. That's just one other I know of. (Nothing at all to do with me. On another site I'm on , one of the editors posts there and seems to have done pretty well by any of the writers on that site who write that kind of stuff. I don't) What I'm saying is, if you let this epublisher go, and shop your novel pretty seriously for the next year or so, whatever was good enough about it, to catch the attention of this epublisher will still be good enough to catch the attention of another. I reckon the option of epublishing will still be available to you.

If this was me, I'd chase down the print options till there's not even one left. Let this publisher go, I think. Or write to them explaining the situation and see if they will wait. If they wait, good and well. If not. Apologise. Be grateful and thankful. Just say you want to do the best by your book. That's what I'd do.
Ultimately though, it's your call.
 

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Why don't you contact the other publishers and let them know you have an offer on the table? If they're interested, that should encourage them to get back to you more quickly. You can't hold EC off for months just waiting to hear.
 

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First, don't be in a hurry.
Second, aim for the best publisher.
Third, A quick offer from someone who says months to get back to you, be wary.

I'd wait on Kennsington.

I don't understand the editor part.

An editor other than the publisher's editor, is always looking for money.

Money flows to the author, not the other way round.
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Hi, I've e-published, and print published and I'll tell you I find print publishing is WAY nicer. If it was me I’d wait to you see what the traditional publishers say before committing. You can send the e-publisher a quick e-note saying, “thank you I am considering your offer.” In my opinion, any publisher that pushes you to sign fast with them probably isn’t worth signing with.

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Thank you to everyone who replied to my panicked post. I've calmed down considerably since yesterday, thanks in part to some great advice from this board. I wrote the e-publisher and asked them to send me the contract to read and told them I would need a few weeks to review it and make a decision, and they were fine with that.

As to the editor part Ken, what I meant to say was agent. I wondered if an agent would want to represent someone who signed with a house that didn't give an advance, just paid royalties, as there wouldn't be much to negotiate and there might not be much money in it for them.

I'm taking a deep breath and writing to the other publishers informing them of the offer. This is my first time dealing with these issues and without an agent or any experience I have to rely on research and other people's experience. I would do things differently if I knew then what I know now, but thank goodness for this board and the people who take the time to share their insight and experience.

Thank you all, it's very much appreciated!
 

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Wow, Manat. I'm just thrilled for you. I am positive I would've been just as excited and nervous and panicky as you (or more)! Way to take a deep breath and handle it like a pro! It sounds like you did exactly the right thing. Congratulations. Fantastic. :D

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WARNING!

Don't take legal advice from anyone who isn't a lawyer. If you are worried about your emails and how binding they may be, consult an attorney with experience in contracts. I'm not an attorney, but in my opinion, they would not be binding, as there is no way to tell who actually wrote the thing.

Giving legal advice when you are not a lawyer constitutes "practicing law without a license," a punishable offense in many states. I know because my brother was once arrested for filling out bankruptcy papers.
 

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If it was me, I wouldn't submit to more than one publisher at a time. If I did, I'd tell the epublisher I made other arrangements. The big publishers actually requested full and partials from you? Congratulations. I shoudl be so lucky.
 
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