Stuck in a Strange Cycle

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Jaycinth

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It started out as a short story, then turned into a couple of stories. They lived in a drawer for years. Most of my close family and friends thought/think ‘I’m going to be a writer’ is one step below, ‘I’m going to be a rock and roll god’ on the prestige scale. That means two steps below ‘doggie doo de-doo-er’. But I worked on, in secret, mainly at work and in notebooks. And, as I worked on the various stories, they seemed to be linked.

Notes, you ask, of course I have notes. Story fragments, too. And they are all related. My 'story drawer' is like one big incestuous family.

It's the universe, I think. Every time I create characters and put them in a story line, they seem to overlap other characters… or things the other characters had done. I’d write about Bridgetta just to discover she was Jaycinth’s (yes, I know) great granddaughter. I was 20k words into Danaac before he told me he’s Prince Steven’s brother. Daniel is Dafydd’s son. Uke grew up on the restrictive planet of Laurentain which just so happens to have been on the losing end of the revolution of 2793. I have a reference to Betty’s mother baking a pie in book one and people eating the pie in book three.

See where I am going? Great…I don’t. Well, not really.

So as I finished the first book ‘Alien Source’, I was thinking, well, this is a trilogy, maybe a quadrology. But even though my outline connects them, really, they are only in the same time frame. Each book can exist independent of the others. In my outline, there is stuff that happens before ‘Alien Source’, which makes a good short story, but isn’t important except to se the stage for ‘Parallel Course’ (book the two). The players in ‘Alien Source’ and ‘Parallel Course’ are facing the same situation…alien invasion of the part of the Milky Way we all call home…but they are facing it in different ways. They are concerned, but they are taking different paths to assuage that concern. Some of the characters overlap, as I’ve said. MC’s in book one become ‘background characters’ in book two, are mentioned ‘in passing’ in book three and become MC’s again in book 4.

My outline provides enough material for books 5 thru 10, if I so desire. I also have ‘outline-drafts’ of 3 ‘fantasy’ stories that are in the same universe….but separated from the sci-fi by 10,000 years. (And by golly if I haven’t used some of the same family names…)

To me, this seems more of a cycle of stories as opposed to a ‘Trilogy’ or series. Or is a ‘cycle’ a different way to say ‘series’?

What am I doing? Am I sane?
 

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If you're crazy, Jay, then so am I.

Most of the novels that I have written or that are in the works exist in one universe. An alternate reality where superpowers exist, but they are the product of experimentation, not natural mutations. I have a timeline from the 1940's through the 2060's, and characters keep connecting. Events overlap, people pass in the night and don't realize the importance of it, grandchildren denounce (or follow) the destructive paths of their ancestors.

Isn't it great fun? :D

I call it a series right now, even though the novels break up in different ways. There is a duology (finished), a stand alone (half done), and a trilogy (first book done), but all set during different periods of the timeline.

I might have to steal the phrase "incestuous idea drawer." That's just plain fun! :tongue
 

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Well, back in the days when I was basically a doggie doo de-doo-er, I got a bit more respect than I do as an attempted-writer.

But I definitely have serial-itis. I have one setting/universe that just keeps going, and going, and going . . . :D
 

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MidnightMuse said:
Well, back in the days when I was basically a doggie doo de-doo-er, I got a bit more respect than I do as an attempted-writer.

But I definitely have serial-itis. I have one setting/universe that just keeps going, and going, and going . . . :D

I thought that said "serial-****."

Oh gawd.

It used to be that everything I did was in construction of a universe. These days, I seem to be entirely in the opposite direction, with my works standing on their own.

Then again, Neil Gaiman once mentioned that every time he writes something cool and unique and different, someone comes along and very wisely points out how it all ties together into a longer, over-arcing theme.
 

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Are you sane, mama Jay? Of course not. You wouldn't be the wonderful, weird, cuddly psychopath we know and love if you were sane.

Alternate universes with interconnected stand alone stories are great fun. How many books are too many? *shrugs* Ida know. Just write until you run out of stories. And have lots of fun.
 

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I think you can write as many books in a universe/world/timeline etc as you want, regardless of whether they're connected in any logical way... For an actual 'Trilogy' there should be some solid plot / character links, sure... but if you have a solid history / universe that you want to tell multiple stories in, go for it. I can think of dozens of examples... a lot of William S. Burroughs stuff was interconnected without being strict trilogies (although he did do one), Stephen King puts everything in Maine and some of his novels reference events in earlier ones, and his Dark Tower series references a ton of his other novels - pulling in characters and events - even though they're not in the series... and there's all the novels written in the Star Wars, Star Trek, Aliens, Predator etc etc etc etc 'universe' that might almost nothing to do with one another except they share a common history / universe.
 
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