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IReidandWrite

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There are a LOT of time jumps in my novel.

One is six years, one is two, one is two months, etc.

I DON'T want filler, because that seems unnecessary.

WHAT DO I DO?!? :D
 

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Yep, like he said. Just make a short, smooth transition if needed ("It was ten years later when I saw Jill again . . . ").
 
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*checks to see if ladybits are still there*

Yup, I'm still female.
 

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scarletpeaches said:
Sorry, it was the avatar photo that momentarily threw me; I didn't hardly look at the username.

Hey, everyone always thinks I'm female.
 

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Side-stepping the gender confusion, I agree with both sides. If it isn't necessary to the story, don't do anything to the time passages. All that will do is detract from the story you are trying to tell. If the reader won't discover anything new, then all they need to know is 'Six years later...'
 

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If I was reading a book and the story jumped ten years without telling me, I would be monumentally annoyed and would probably toss the book.

There are many ways to make a transition, one is through narration:

"Over the next several years, Bill thought a lot about Marcy, but he didn't see her again until 1967..."

"Being a slow learner, Bob spent the next 10 years trying to graduate from college."

"Nothing happened during the intervening years.." (Really?)

You don't have to tick the years off one by one, but surely the main character did or thought or felt something in regard to the matter in question in between.

Another method would be to divide the story into parts (1, 2, 3 etc.), and on the "Part" page, put the span of years the text spans. This is the most unobtrusive way, and also very common. If I were writing such a book, that's the method I would use.
 

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I don't know what you mean by "filler," but, like many writers, you seem to be writing the story for your own satisfaction. That is fine, assuming you don't plan to be pubished - or paid.

If you do want to be published, however, at some point you must stop thinking about what you want, and start thinking about what the reader wants.

My college writing instructor put it this way: When a writer writes a book (story, whatever), s/he enters into an unspoken contract with the reader. The reader promises to buy, pay for, your book, out of thousands and thousands of other books s/he might choose. In turn, the writer promises to take the reader on an interesting, satisfying journey through the story. S/he promises to lead on a straight, smooth path, free of obstacles or stumbling points - anything that might annoy or discourage the reader and cause them to return the book for a refund.

You must remember all readers are flighty; that many other things demand their attention throughout the day that are vastly more important than reading your book. They have TV, newspapers, iPods and Blackberries, families and careers demanding their attention every waking moment. If the path is full of boulders that cause them to stop reading and say "Huh?" - and it may only take one - they may abandon the book. Reading such a work feels like walking along with a noose around your neck, and the person behind giving the rope a jerk every 10 minutes. Time jumps are certainly one of those boulders.

REMEMBER THE READER!
 

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Nothing wrong with a jump in time. And the last thing you want is 'filler'. Just go there, and make sure the reader knows immediately where they are, time-wise.

I presume you are not jumping forward and back.

And make it a clear transition - time-break, or new chapter, whatever works best.
 
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Catty - I worry about the writer, which is why I'm worried they'll dislike a book that has this many time jumps (there's like 3 or four)
 

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cattywampus said:
I don't know what you mean by "filler," but, like many writers, you seem to be writing the story for your own satisfaction. That is fine, assuming you don't plan to be pubished - or paid.

If you do want to be published, however, at some point you must stop thinking about what you want, and start thinking about what the reader wants.

My college writing instructor put it this way: When a writer writes a book (story, whatever), s/he enters into an unspoken contract with the reader. The reader promises to buy, pay for, your book, out of thousands and thousands of other books s/he might choose. In turn, the writer promises to take the reader on an interesting, satisfying journey through the story. S/he promises to lead on a straight, smooth path, free of obstacles or stumbling points - anything that might annoy or discourage the reader and cause them to return the book for a refund.

You must remember all readers are flighty; that many other things demand their attention throughout the day that are vastly more important than reading your book. They have TV, newspapers, iPods and Blackberries, families and careers demanding their attention every waking moment. If the path is full of boulders that cause them to stop reading and say "Huh?" - and it may only take one - they may abandon the book. Reading such a work feels like walking along with a noose around your neck, and the person behind giving the rope a jerk every 10 minutes. Time jumps are certainly one of those boulders.

REMEMBER THE READER!

A time jump isn't a boulder. Not putting in a time jump when one is called for is a boulder. I've heard your advice before, and it never did make sense to me. It assumes the writer isn't also a reader, and it says you should write for some nebulous group of readers "out there," readers you don't know, readers who come with more stripes than a hundred zebras. Readers who are not one group.

My bond with the reader is to write a story I like, in the way I most like it. Not much different than a joke, really. I tell someone a joke because I find that joke hilarious. If I don't laugh at it, I don't pass it along on the assumption that someone else will find it funny.

Time jumps in novels and movies are common, very often needed, and when done well, work well.

Never add filler. That's a real boulder in the reader's path. If the time between two periods isn't relevant, or if it's boring, get rid of it.

I know myself better than I know anyone else alive, and I know exactly what I do and don't like in a story. The safest thing I can do is assume that if I like the way I write, the way I tell a story, so will many others.

If you want paid, you'd darned well better write a story that pleases you, rather than some reader you've never met.

Very few stories happen in a way that allows continuous telling. Most novels take place over weeks, months, or years. Sometimes over decades and centuries.

And even with short time spans, time jumps save the reader a lot of boredom. If event one happens at eight in the morning, and the next important event happens at midnight, there's no reason at all not to jump to midnight. If event one happens in 1986, and the next important event happens in 2006, spare your reader and get in your time machine.

And if your protagonist must travel from New York to Seattle, there's no reason at all to take the reader along for the trip.

A high percentage of transitions are all about jumping forward in time. Lawrence Block calls taking the reader everywhere "Taking the D train."

If your protagonist has to see someone across town, you do not have to take the reader down the elevator, out the door, across the street, into the subway, and on the D train with you. If you do, be sure to wake the reader up when you get where you're going.

Easier and better just to write something like, "I took a final drink of coffee, and an hour later I was in Greenwich Village, knocking on Sinclair's door."
 
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