WGA vs. LOC Grudge match

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OK my legal eaglettes-

How do I address the copyright issue of my work? Do I secure the copyright by uploading it into the WGA West database or go snail mail through the Library of Congress? Or both? Which is the better protector of my, um, art?

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Why would you do either? The copyright is already yours.
 

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MidnightMuse said:
Why would you do either? The copyright is already yours.

I was under the impression that copyright was not fully extended to the author until the work was on deposit at one of these two institutions. If that's not the case, what's the story on copyright.

If there's a thread that covers this issue in detail, please give me a pointer to it. Grazie!

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Lemme see if I can find some - there have been very informative discussions here that go into detail I'm not near qualified to repeat - I'll do a quick search and get right back to you.
 

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screenmom said:
I was under the impression that copyright was not fully extended to the author until the work was on deposit at one of these two institutions. If that's not the case, what's the story on copyright.

If there's a thread that covers this issue in detail, please give me a pointer to it. Grazie!

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You own the copyright the moment you write anything. Unless you intend to self-publish, there is no reason at all to register your work prior to submitting it. The publisher will handle this for you, should they buy the work. If they don't buy it, you don't need the registration.

The only exception to this is with screenplays. You still own the copyright the moment you write a screenplay, but you usually have to register the work to get someone to read it. This is as much for their protection as for your own.

Don't worry about registering your work. It's needless, just costs a bunch of extra money, and then you'll have to stick that little copyright symbol on everything you submit, and no one wants to see that.
 

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You own the copyright the moment you write anything. Unless you intend to self-publish, there is no reason at all to register your work prior to submitting it. The publisher will handle this for you, should they buy the work. If they don't buy it, you don't need the registration.

The only exception to this is with screenplays. You still own the copyright the moment you write a screenplay, but you usually have to register the work to get someone to read it. This is as much for their protection as for your own.

Don't worry about registering your work. It's needless, just costs a bunch of extra money, and then you'll have to stick that little copyright symbol on everything you submit, and no one wants to see that.

Thanks so much for settin' me to rights. My first finished piece was a screenplay, so I assumed that writin' is writin' and it all needs to be registered. I love learning something new everyday. Next up, bunion care.;)

Thanks again
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i laways assumed the copyright lay with the author, and people who put there little C symbol on their work are paranoid :D

btw how do i make the copyright symbol?
 

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Sidmyster said:
i laways assumed the copyright lay with the author, and people who put there little C symbol on their work are paranoid :D

btw how do i make the copyright symbol?
{begin geek}
If you are using a Wintel PC (Windows Operating System and an Intel Processor [or AMD -- the distinction is made between Motorola Power PC chip architecture and the Intel/AMD architecture]) and running Word or similar word processor, put NumLock on, hold down the ALT key, and type in the numbers 1, 6, and 9 on the numeric keypad. Then release the ALT key.
Instructions for Macintosh based systems/software are different, I don't know them off hand.
Or, in a web-based medium such as this board, simply type &#169 surrounded by the html tags Thusly: [h t m l ] &#169 [/ h t m l], but remove the spaces between the letters inside the square brackets. The result follows:
HTML:
©
An easier way, inside of Microsoft Word, is to choose Symbol from the Insert drop down menu, and you will be presented with the special characters that you can put in your document. The ALT+Number method works better for transportability between programs.

This is, by the way, a method for beating the automatic word censor.
{/end geek}
 

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Your work is protected as soon as it's in fixed format. However, you can't begin legal proceedings against an infringer until you register the copyright.

Although you're still protected even without a copyright symbol, the copyright office recommends putting it on anyway. Think of it as free education for idiots rather than paranoia. Not everyone gets that stuff is copyrighted. The symbol is a reminder.

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Kristen King said:
Your work is protected as soon as it's in fixed format. However, you can't begin legal proceedings against an infringer until you register the copyright.

Although you're still protected even without a copyright symbol, the copyright office recommends putting it on anyway. Think of it as free education for idiots rather than paranoia. Not everyone gets that stuff is copyrighted. The symbol is a reminder.

Kristen

You are still protected if you don't put the copyright symbol on, but not as well. You do lose some protection. Most of the extra monetary protection registering gives you, in fact.

And leave the symbol off when submitting work. To most editors, it marks you as an amateur.

Unless you're self-publishing, there simply is no reason to register your work before submitting it, and no need at all to worry about infringement. It just is not going to happen.
 

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Jamesaritchie said:
You are still protected if you don't put the copyright symbol on, but not as well. You do lose some protection. Most of the extra monetary protection registering gives you, in fact.

Beginning March 1, 1989, inclusion of a copyright notice is purely voluntary and is not required for protection, only recommended. Per Title 17, Section 102(a), "Copyright protection subsists, in accordance with this title, in original works of authorship fixed in any tangible medium of expression, now known or later developed, from which they can be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated, either directly or with the aid of a machine or device."

And you can can actually register work after infringement occurs and still be able to recover damages if it's determined that infringement has indeed taken place.

Kristen
 
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