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Editorial: Details: How Important Are They?
By Allen Straith

Every agent, every writing teacher will tell one common thing: write those details! Tell the reader how the scene is, but is that true? It is something I have been pondering on for sometime, and is something we should all think about. Let me tell you why I started thinking this, and then explain it some more.

I haven’t always been a reader, but have always been a storyteller of shorts. I loved writing stories, love watch TV and movies to see a wonderful story unfold. But reading? It was boring. Why? I still don’t know, but it wasn’t until I read Thr3e by Ted Dekker that I understood why so many loved reading. So I started reading more from this author. The more I read, the more I understood writing.

I know that is something all of you know, that one must read to write, but there is more. As i began to read more, I began to talk about it more freely. I began showing my friends the books I was reading, and bugging my mom to read the novels I read. One day, she said something to me, “Sometimes I have to skip all the detail and just read the important stuff.”

And then a thought poked into my mind, although I didn’t pay much attention to it: “Do writers need to write it, then?” I went along with my life, and started to talk with my friend about my writing. He said I sucked, lol, maybe I did. But he said the actual plot was right on, just the writing needed to be polished. he told me how he read Lord of the Rings, and that the writer gave too much details...how he just skipped over that part.

The thought popped back into my mind. So I began asking the question, researching what my friends liked. And they all said the same, even the people who didn’t like reading said it was because they didn’t have the patience to sit down and read it all (not EVERYone who doesn’t like reading, but just some). Which gets me to my point: Why should we dedicate hours and hours on writing paragraph upon paragraph of detail, when most people skip it and use their imaginations to create the scene? Maybe, just maybe, the reader is actually better at making the scene then you.

So I thought even more about this subject. What should a writer do? Go against what everyone says, not tell about the scene? Or just let the reader skip something I work so hard on? The answer wasn’t easy. In fact, it took a year or so to come up with what I have -- and I am still perfecting the technique.

Maybe the answer is both. Maybe, instead of commanding the imaginations of our readers, we should use that as our tool. Maybe instead of having out “details” as option read, maybe the little detail we give sparks their imaginations in a general but fascinating direction.

So I believe as writers we should spend hours on demanding readers read every word we write -- but how? First off, forget the million paragraphs to set scenes alone. Not saying you shouldn’t do so, though, I usually start a story with some sort of description to pull the reader into the tale I am weaving. But make the description within the action, within the story. If your writing ing first person, only write details that a person would notice. No one will notice a bug crawling on the ground, but hey will notice a bird chirping in a tree. And, even when your writing in other POV’s, keep the details in terms where people will see, and have the other details filled out in the readers head.

As my conclusion, I would like to add a note. This is still a working hypothesis. I am still forming my ideas, still perfecting the technique I am perusing.
 
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Samuel,

That's two things posted in separate threads that are almost certainly under copyright, and shouldn't be simply reprinted here. Better just to indicate in a brief summary what these articles are about, and post the URL.

caw.
 

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That's a good question right now.
Samuel, are these pieces your work? If not, then blacbird is correct.

Whether or not they are your work, I'm not certain what you are after posting them without additional information. Did you want feedback? Are you making a point?
 

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Samuel,

That's two things posted in separate threads that are almost certainly under copyright, and shouldn't be simply reprinted here. Better just to indicate in a brief summary what these articles are about, and post the URL.

caw.

Eh, this time, I am Allen Straith -- thats my name, and I do give myself persmission to post it here.

And I want feed back on this. Do you agree with what I am saying? I posted my story here for a reason: so you can see what I am saying in action, to see if it work or not. Sort of as an example. I don't, however, want feedback on the story -- not yet. I am far from done, and I literally just wrote it last night.

Is that better?

PS: I don't mean to sound mean, if I do, I am sorry. I was simply asking if I gave enough info this time around. :-D
 

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i stopped reading in the second paragraph where you mixed present and past tense in one sentence. So not only am I skipping the details, i'm skipping the whole thing.
 

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As far as the essay on details goes, it's an interesting point for discussion, but one not easily hitched to an answer. It's what you, as a reader, enjoy. Entirely subjective. Stephen King, the most commercially successful writer of - I don't know - all time, is pretty detail oriented. I could get lost in pages of his meanderings. But then there are details presented by some authors (Janet Fitch, for instance) in abundant metaphor and simile, where everything has to be 'like' something else, which drives me up a tree.

This is an element of style. If your best work comes with less scenic detail, develop that. I tend to be that way, myself. I think. I don't know. Ah well. It's why they make all flavors.

And as for your story, did you mean 'bare feet' in the first line or did somebody steal Smokey's paws? It's a bit confusing either way, because I usually think of cowboys with boots, but as you said, it's still in progress.

ETA - meant to say 'metaphor and simile' - thanks Elektra!
 
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details

Details, the right details, are extremely important. Those who prefer to skip them can, though I don't have much respect for readers who skim for action, they need to be reading comic books, but for those readers who want details, they'd better be there.
 

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Perks said:
But then there are details presented by some authors (Janet Fitch, for instance) in abundant metaphor, where everything has to be 'like' something else, which drives me up a tree.

I know exactly what you mean. The similes in Memiors of a Geisha started driving me bonkers about two-thirds of the way through.
 

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Perks said:
As far as the essay on details goes, it's an interesting point for discussion, but one not easily hitched to an answer. It's what you, as a reader, enjoy. Entirely subjective. Stephen King, the most commercially successful writer of - I don't know - all time, is pretty detail oriented. I could get lost in pages of his meanderings. But then there are details presented by some authors (Janet Fitch, for instance) in abundant metaphor and simile, where everything has to be 'like' something else, which drives me up a tree.

This is an element of style. If your best work comes with less scenic detail, develop that. I tend to be that way, myself. I think. I don't know. Ah well. It's why they make all flavors.

And as for your story, did you mean 'bare feet' in the first line or did somebody steal Smokey's paws? It's a bit confusing either way, because I usually think of cowboys with boots, but as you said, it's still in progress.

ETA - meant to say 'metaphor and simile' - thanks Elektra!

Heh, I meant bare feet. Also, I said that to describe how hot the sand was -- not really saying that his feet were bare foot. Think of someone telling a story of what he was doing, and wanted to describe the heat of the sand. Even if they had shoes on, they still might say "its hot enough to burn your feet" or something like that.

Thanks for the correction. :-D

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i stopped reading in the second paragraph where you mixed present and past tense in one sentence. So not only am I skipping the details, i'm skipping the whole thing.

Ergo the reason I didn't really want comments on my story, since I wrote it last night. As it seems, story means nothing and grammar is all glory king, right?

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This would probably be better in the Share Your Work forum where it's password protected and not as publicly available so you're not jeopardizing your first publication rights.

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And thanks, I'll copyright it (the story) and then show the link.

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Details, the right details, are extremely important. Those who prefer to skip them can, though I don't have much respect for readers who skim for action, they need to be reading comic books, but for those readers who want details, they'd better be there.

And that was part of the problem. I couldn't just write with no details, because there will be people who read my stories who want them. And, if you give no details, it will be imposible to see it if you little imagination. So I came up with giveing details, but putting them in the correct places to make it where people will read them, and to give just enough to get any imagination going wild. See what I am trying to say?
 
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And thanks, I'll copyright it (the story) and then show the link.
Your story is already protected under copyright law. There is just concern about posting it on an open forum. It can be viewed to jeopardize your first print rights, not really an issue of plagiarism. The 'Share Your Work' forum is password protected so it can't be accessed by search engines or the general public, and so may guard against someone turning down your story since it's already been 'out there.'
 

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Samuel Dark said:
And thanks, I'll copyright it (the story) and then show the link.

Your story is already covered by copyright. You can't actually copyright anything. You already own the copyright the moment something is written. All you can do is register the copyright so you can prove when you write it.

Putting a story online where anyone can read it is a bad idea, even if you do register it.
 

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I think that some detail is necessary for a scene but I personally don't think a writer should use more than a few lines in the middle of an active passage of a novel. It's one thing when, for example, heroes are entering the city and there are things in the streets, people looking at them oddly, spires in the distance etc. Even in that kind of circumstance only the important things need to be mentioned. If the fact that the all the roads in the city were built by gold special imported from some far off land where blood and magic were used to mine it and runes were carved in it to keep it from wear...... and all this has nothing to do with what's going on in the story then why mention it. Simple details are good. Too much detail and nothing is left to the imagination. At least that's my opinion.

Also in your passage, detail isn't necessary. It's a story told by a character. The only place for detail was at the beginning whe nhe first stepped onto the porch. What was important was the information in the story. No detail was needed because focus was where it needed to be.
 
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Required detail varies from story to story. You need to include however much detail is necessary to make your story clear, interesting, and free of holes. Write the story as it needs to be written. If you try to please every reader, you'll fail every time.

My $.02.

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I think there's a difference between details for the sake of details, details that the writer finds interesting, and details that add to the story. Where people get bored with the details is often that nothing much is happening, or it doesn't seem to have an impact on the story. I've run into several writers who felt it important to describe the details of every aspect of a scene, right down to the angle of a character's elbow as he picked up a folder with a label placed a slight angle on the front. This kind of detail doesn't add anything for the reader because it's just clutter. Clutter distracts from the story.

Wherever possible, make the details do double duty. Instead of just giving information about something, use how it's conveyed and word choices to develop the characterization of the POV character. Or how about for suspense or foreshadowing? Maybe there's something that needs to be flagged as important, and giving it a few extra details can do that. Even the audience for the book should be considered in what details to provide. We're writing a book set during the Civil War for women, so we provided some details on the clothing of the time because the women would want to see some of that. If we were writing for guys, we would have spent more details on the guns.
 

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Allen:

Like many a newbie, you're searching for the secret key to fiction. There isn't one. Detail, like everything else, depends on the writer, the genre, etc.

I side with Elmore Leonard, who say he tries to leave out the parts people don't want to read.

I skimmed your story and wondered why a cowboy would be walking in bare feet in sand. Ya lost me, pardner.
 

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Linda Adams said:
I think there's a difference between details for the sake of details, details that the writer finds interesting, and details that add to the story. Where people get bored with the details is often that nothing much is happening, or it doesn't seem to have an impact on the story. I've run into several writers who felt it important to describe the details of every aspect of a scene, right down to the angle of a character's elbow as he picked up a folder with a label placed a slight angle on the front. This kind of detail doesn't add anything for the reader because it's just clutter. Clutter distracts from the story.

Wherever possible, make the details do double duty. Instead of just giving information about something, use how it's conveyed and word choices to develop the characterization of the POV character. Or how about for suspense or foreshadowing? Maybe there's something that needs to be flagged as important, and giving it a few extra details can do that. Even the audience for the book should be considered in what details to provide. We're writing a book set during the Civil War for women, so we provided some details on the clothing of the time because the women would want to see some of that. If we were writing for guys, we would have spent more details on the guns.

Wonderfully said. :-D

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Allen:

Like many a newbie, you're searching for the secret key to fiction. There isn't one. Detail, like everything else, depends on the writer, the genre, etc.

I side with Elmore Leonard, who say he tries to leave out the parts people don't want to read.

I skimmed your story and wondered why a cowboy would be walking in bare feet in sand. Ya lost me, pardner.

First of all, I never said the cowboy was wondering through the desert bare foot. I simply tried to convey the hottness of the sand, which I think I have failed -- people can't understand it.

And I am not looking for a key to fiction, I am siply trying to understand my craft better then I all ready do. I want people to read and enjoy my stories, not really to be successfull in what many people consider it.

:-D Thanks for your comments, both of you.
 

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In my view detail is only needed to clarify an image. How much detail? As much or as little as is necessary - beyond that it's surplus and usually tedious and boring.

How much is necessary? I can only answer for my own stories, but adding detail doesn't necessarily mean adding anything to clarity.

First description, then detail.
 
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Samuel Dark said:
Ergo the reason I didn't really want comments on my story, since I wrote it last night. As it seems, story means nothing and grammar is all glory king, right?

I think communication is king, because without communication, no story gets from your head to mine. And bad grammar interferes with both communication and the story. For example, when I read the beginning:

The heat was blistering by mid-day. The sand on bear feet

I pictured a bear. Okay, I said to myself, it's a story about a bear on a hot day, walking on the sand. Got that mental image. The title is Smoking Guns, so it's probably about hunting, either from the hunter's viewpoint or the bear's. So far so good.

... literally burns your skin off.

That was a startling image. I've walked on hot sand, and it's never literally burned my skin off, even when it's been too hot to walk on comfortably, so we're talking about an extreme environment. I wonder if the bear is out of place, in a desert? In a fantasy world? How is he managing to walk at all? Doubt creeps in. Did the author not realize what the word "literally" means?

And the strange shift to second person... Why is the writer addressing me? Am I to picture myself as a bear? Okay, maybe...

And with cow hide all over your body, you stink like high heavens and sweat like a beaver.

The second person continues, reinforcing that I'm to picture myself as the viewpoint person. Okay. Cow hide all over my body is an arresting image. Is the bear clothed in cow hide, like a primitive garment? Is he a fantasy sentient bear? What actually came to my mind was an Indian-like hunter, wearing the fresh skin of a cow as a disguise, sneaking up on the bear.

The cliche "stink like high heavens" dropped my confidence level in the author again, but "sweat like a beaver" is a new phrase to me, which brought the confidence back up.

Thus is the life of any cowboy, and thus is how I live day in and day out. Sometimes I wish I could live a simple life.

Whoops. Shift gears. Bear feet was a mistake. It's about a cowboy. There is no bear. There may not even be any bare feet, since as someone else mentioned, cowboys are usually pictured with boots on. The cowhide is tanned leather, and it stinks not because it's raw cowhide, but because he's wearing it for protection and it makes him sweat. The writing isn't going to be in second person after all.

So I think, maybe I need to be more wary, not trust the author so much. He/she probably didn't mean "literally," or at least, since I've not heard of sand that hot, I won't believe that it actually burns skin off just because the author says so, so it's probably not that hot after all. The cliche really was lazy writing even in first person, since cowboy slang is notorious for unique similies and metaphors that could be used instead and still stay in character.

"Sometimes I wish I could live a simple life" is an attention getting statement, because to most people, a cowboy's life is the epitome of "a simple life." But I'm still struggling too hard readjusting my image, getting rid of that bear, and deciding how much to trust the author, that it loses its impact. Maybe the author really isn't aware of the irony, just like he/she wasn't aware he/she was giving me details about bear's paws.

Grammar really does have an impact on the communication of the story. The fewer the details, the more weight they have to carry, and therefore, the more important it is that they're conveyed as clearly as possible.
 

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"where everything has to be 'like' something else, which drives me up a tree."

If the word 'like' or 'as' is used it is not a metaphor. The use of the words 'like & as' is what defines a 'simile'.

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davidthompson said:
I think communication is king, because without communication, no story gets from your head to mine. And bad grammar interferes with both communication and the story. For example, when I read the beginning:

The heat was blistering by mid-day. The sand on bear feet

I pictured a bear. Okay, I said to myself, it's a story about a bear on a hot day, walking on the sand. Got that mental image. The title is Smoking Guns, so it's probably about hunting, either from the hunter's viewpoint or the bear's. So far so good.

... literally burns your skin off.

That was a startling image. I've walked on hot sand, and it's never literally burned my skin off, even when it's been too hot to walk on comfortably, so we're talking about an extreme environment. I wonder if the bear is out of place, in a desert? In a fantasy world? How is he managing to walk at all? Doubt creeps in. Did the author not realize what the word "literally" means?

And the strange shift to second person... Why is the writer addressing me? Am I to picture myself as a bear? Okay, maybe...

And with cow hide all over your body, you stink like high heavens and sweat like a beaver.

The second person continues, reinforcing that I'm to picture myself as the viewpoint person. Okay. Cow hide all over my body is an arresting image. Is the bear clothed in cow hide, like a primitive garment? Is he a fantasy sentient bear? What actually came to my mind was an Indian-like hunter, wearing the fresh skin of a cow as a disguise, sneaking up on the bear.

The cliche "stink like high heavens" dropped my confidence level in the author again, but "sweat like a beaver" is a new phrase to me, which brought the confidence back up.

Thus is the life of any cowboy, and thus is how I live day in and day out. Sometimes I wish I could live a simple life.

Whoops. Shift gears. Bear feet was a mistake. It's about a cowboy. There is no bear. There may not even be any bare feet, since as someone else mentioned, cowboys are usually pictured with boots on. The cowhide is tanned leather, and it stinks not because it's raw cowhide, but because he's wearing it for protection and it makes him sweat. The writing isn't going to be in second person after all.

So I think, maybe I need to be more wary, not trust the author so much. He/she probably didn't mean "literally," or at least, since I've not heard of sand that hot, I won't believe that it actually burns skin off just because the author says so, so it's probably not that hot after all. The cliche really was lazy writing even in first person, since cowboy slang is notorious for unique similies and metaphors that could be used instead and still stay in character.

"Sometimes I wish I could live a simple life" is an attention getting statement, because to most people, a cowboy's life is the epitome of "a simple life." But I'm still struggling too hard readjusting my image, getting rid of that bear, and deciding how much to trust the author, that it loses its impact. Maybe the author really isn't aware of the irony, just like he/she wasn't aware he/she was giving me details about bear's paws.

Grammar really does have an impact on the communication of the story. The fewer the details, the more weight they have to carry, and therefore, the more important it is that they're conveyed as clearly as possible.

It is true that grammar is important, yet no one's first draft will be perfect. In fact, I bet you have even written a cliche or two, correct? I wrote that and I new I had to change it -- I just couldn't come up with anything yet. And I suck at grammar -- I have to work hard at it. In fact, it's the only reason I have drafts. If I was perfect at grammar, I would be published by now. I wouldn't be wasting money at my college to learn grammar, would I? Sorry I choose the wrong word, really am. And I do have that tendancy to switch POV's, I never catch it but I do wait until someone else does. It's a grammar thing I need to learn, and I am getting better at it.

So, back again, I didn't want people to comment on my work -- I was simply trying to show an example. Maybe it sucked, who knows? I don't care, because I am still working on it. If your one to poke fun at an author, to exepct he/she to get it right when he/she just wrote it -- at like two o'clock in the morning, being extremely tired....then great! I would like to see YOU do it. In fact, I want you to write straight for an hour and call your work perfect. I bet it's not. Most writers have first, second, third.....and so on drafts. Why? Because they need to. We are human, therefore we are not perfect. Sorry, I fall under this catagory. I am human.

And, about the "simple life". I don't consider a life where you have to carry around a gun (meaning he has to in order to live) a simple life. It's a hard life, and his is a life of a cowboy -- one full of nothing but work. He wants a simple life, one where he doesn't have to work all the time, where he can sit down and enjoy life.

Once again, these little things in grammar are usually something I work on during the second draft, as I just want to finish the story first. it's why I didn't post my story in the share your work, it's why I specifically said I don't want comments on it. It's all because I -- quite literally -- just wrote it (when I first posted this) 6-7 hours ago. \

*sigh*
 
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Actually your point about the use of detail is interesting. I think it is an element of style. A lot of detail fits into King's style. Sparse detail fits into Hemingway's style.

King can't get away with hemingwayesque writing, and if Papa were still alive, he couldn't get away being kingesque in his writing.

I will admit sometimes I will skip the de3tail--when do I do that? When my anticipation is highest and I am most involved with what the hell comes next.

I usually go back and read it after my curiosity has been sufficiently scratched. I don't think it's an insult to the writer, but a compliment.

I think detail is used best when it's used least.

Stylewise "I went outside the funeral parlor and heaven was weeping." makes a far better metaphoric detail than:
"Walking out of the funeral parlor it was raining softly, as if heaven itself was weeping." is tedious detail in the form of a strained simile.

?The wheel on the hatch wouldn't budge, it was rusted solid like the rest of the scow." Is a brief detail in a critical place, it would work for me better than a paragraph describing how badly rustedc the vessel was.

Style and taste can't be cut to measure as a one size fits all. After all, "one size fits nobody."

Regards,
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Popeyesays said:
Actually your point about the use of detail is interesting. I think it is an element of style. A lot of detail fits into King's style. Sparse detail fits into Hemingway's style.

King can't get away with hemingwayesque writing, and if Papa were still alive, he couldn't get away being kingesque in his writing.

I will admit sometimes I will skip the de3tail--when do I do that? When my anticipation is highest and I am most involved with what the hell comes next.

I usually go back and read it after my curiosity has been sufficiently scratched. I don't think it's an insult to the writer, but a compliment.

I think detail is used best when it's used least.

Stylewise "I went outside the funeral parlor and heaven was weeping." makes a far better metaphoric detail than:
"Walking out of the funeral parlor it was raining softly, as if heaven itself was weeping." is tedious detail in the form of a strained simile.

?The wheel on the hatch wouldn't budge, it was rusted solid like the rest of the scow." Is a brief detail in a critical place, it would work for me better than a paragraph describing how badly rustedc the vessel was.

Style and taste can't be cut to measure as a one size fits all. After all, "one size fits nobody."

Regards,
Scott

Thank you for replying. It is a interesting topic, isn't? And you are correct, it is a matter of style. Every writer has his or own style. :-D
 

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i havent read any replies.

But when reasing a story (i read fantasy mostly) I never skip over a fe paragraphs or words etc....I just cant do it. Maybe that will change when i get a book im no too fond of.
 

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Sidmyster said:
i havent read any replies.

But when reasing a story (i read fantasy mostly) I never skip over a fe paragraphs or words etc....I just cant do it. Maybe that will change when i get a book im no too fond of.

Thanks for saying you haven't read replies. It helps. Also, fantasy is actually a different monster. You have to, if you want your world to be different then the usual, tell the reader what that world is like. So that is actually understandable -- although it helps to make it interesting.
 
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