How do you pick beta readers?

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Southern_girl29

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I saw the other posts about how to approach them, but I'm wondering how you select them.

The associate editor at the newspaper where I work said she would read it for me, but she can't do it all in one sitting. She wants it chapter by chapter, and it could take her a while to get it to it. This is what she told me. She's currently working on her second book, so I know she doesn't have time, really.

My cousin loves to read and reads just about anything she can get her hands on. She has read a few of my short stories. She's pretty good at critiquing, but honestly, she has no editorial experience at all. She's very well-educated, though, with a master's in industrial safety.

I also think the copy editor at work would do it for me, too, because she's said more than once that she would like to read it. But, again, she's very, very good at catching typos, but I don't know how well she would be with the other things that matter. And, she also loves to read.

Everyone else at the newspaper who would do it would be reading it with an eye for newspaper style writing, not fiction. My local writing group broke up, and while they read it as a work in progress, they haven't read it since I've finished several revisions.

So, who would you pick? Do you have beta readers at all?
 

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You don't pick beta readers, you take all the ones you can get. But ones that are in your target audience and are writers are the best if you can get those.
 

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It sounds like you've got a good mix of beta-readers there, SouthernGirl. I wouldn't expect all of them to look at or for the same things (e.g. your cousin might be a good indication of how well the book comes across to the average reader, even if she can't provide editorial help, whereas the copy-editor will pick up the niggling spelling bits and pieces).

Good luck - hope they like what they read!
 

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Get all the ones you can, they all could have ideas or opinions worth listening to, that you might miss if you ignore them.

The best are the readers. Editors and so on, sure, they are awesome, but your book is supposed to sell and be read by readers, and readers know what they want and what they like and what does not work for them, readers are really important when it comes to your work.
 

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Right now I've only got 2....my sister and my wife. And I'm taking all the oohs and aahs with a huge grain of salt. My sister's a nitpicker, she doesn't know it, but what i want out of her is all the errors she can find. My wife's the bookworm...I'm gauging how fast she can get through it compared to all the other meaningless crap she reads. I also asked her to make a special note to all the times she had to re-read something or go back and check.

If I can track down all the people that hate me, I'd give them a copy after I've incorporated the feedback of my wife and sister. If they say it sucks, then, hey no surprise. If they like it, then I'd know it was good.

Good luck. It's tempting to reach out to friends for this to get validation and encouragement. Not a bad idea, since you need to stay confident. But try to find some people who don't mind giving you honest feedback. Maybe ask your friends if they have any friends who are huge reading fans of your genre.
 

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Everyone else at the newspaper who would do it would be reading it with an eye for newspaper style writing, not fiction.

Why? Have they said so, or is this just your assumption? Journalists enjoy fiction too, you know. Just because they work at a newspaper doesn't mean they won't be able to read fiction without thinking in newspaper terms.

And as others said: take all you can get. The copy editor will catch your typos etc, your cousin will give you a reader's view on it, the associate editor might read it with a writer's eye and comment on character developments etc. If they want to be used, use them all.
 

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I think the biggest thing I look for is people who won't tell me, "Oh, this was so great!" and leave it at that. Warm fuzzies can come later. For now, I want people to help me find what's broken and fix it.

I try to get a few readers who are also writers, since they're better able to see and articulate what's wrong. I have another who does excellent detail notes -- pointing out lousy sentences, confusing lines, all of that good stuff. My non-writer reader doesn't necessarily give feedback in as much detail, but comments like, "I didn't really get into this until chapter three," or "I just didn't care about the characters as much as I did in the last story" are still very helpful.

Whether or not someone can get back to me in a timely fashion is important, too. Which reminds me, I still have to review a chapter for a friend, so I really shouldn't be playing around on AW....
 

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Thanks everyone. I asked the copy editor if she would read it and she said yes. I'm going to ask my cousin tomorrow night at my granny's if she would. I think I'm going to wait on my associate editor. Like I said, she's writing her second book and I don't want her to take time away from that.

There are only one or two people here in the newsroom that I would even consider asking, but they both read mainly non-fiction. One has even said that when he reads fiction, he wants to correct it for newspaper style.
 

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I agree with everyone previous: If you can find even a small group of people who are willing to tell you what's wrong with it, you're doing well.

If you give someone Chapter One and they say "This was great!" and don't offer any critical comments, don't waste the paper on printing them chapter two.
 
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