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SirTimberWolf

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Argh!
Hehe.

*ahem* Okay, I'm almost done with my novel (happy dance)! However I keep returning to one chapter that was never written and to be honest I don't know how to tackle it. . .

The characters have been training to take on the challenge of getting 'combat rights' with what serves as the 'good guys' in my novel. These people are actually a race of people who are physically diffrent than humans, who have developed their own culture and through centuries of warfare had to subvert themselves for their very survival.
I personally know the ins and outs of these people but I find myself at a loss when I go to actually start writing this. I don't know how to say 'this color means this' (whether by directly stating it or alluding to it and letting the reader draw their own conclusion) without just dumping buckets of exposition on the story (which thusfar hasn't really happened.)

So I read travel articles and watch movies from the library but again, its all documentry style which wouldn't fit well with my style- I read a lot of sci-fi but run into the same problem with style clashes (and having never actually sit down and read the atypical 'human goes to a new planet' thing I guess I'm not really prepared to make the best judgment call)
Okay, as convoluted and hopeless as that bit sounded my basic problem and question are as follows: How do you personally hand taking on obscure cultural reffrences and bringing them to the reader in such a way that it makes sense without interupting the flow and narritive while at the same time making it 'feel' like it's coming from the character who sees it.
I know theres as many diffrent ways to do it as there are writers but whats your slant on it?
Thanks for any responses and even more for tips :)
-Johnathan
 

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I've found that, except for occasional bits of dialogue in the native language, only use the otherworldly language when there is no English substitute. Native plants, animals, etc. are good examples of this but you may also have a story variation of the Eskimo's word for "snow" or the like (one of my current WIPs has multiple words for things like "pain" and "torture" because the world in question is hell, so it makes sense). Conversely, you may also have English words that have no otherworldly translation so you'll end up with a convoluted hyphenated thing to express that if needed (ie: for "hope" I have something that roughly translates to: "not-pain, not-torture, time-not-now").

That being said, just start the piece with a bit of action, don't worry about explaining everything right away, pepper in explanations where absolutely needed and only if it makes sense for your narrator to do so. In sum, assume your readers are smart enough to keep up.

Once you have a rough completed, snag a couple of completely reliable beta readers and your Mom to read the piece. The beta readers are there for the honest assessment of your work, Mom is there to make you feel good about what you do anyway. You may also want to specify that you're wondering if everything was either over- or under-explained and where it may have slowed down due to exposition.
 

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That's a good question right now.
If you are looking to read something where another author has been required to describe a world completely aliens to humans, try The Mote in God's Eye by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.
 

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Congrats on being nearly finished the novel. It's a great feeling - like you can breathe again:) Conveying a whole lot of different world detail is something I hate - possibly because I don't mind reading info dumps, but most people do, so I have to struggle against my natural inclination to just shove the info in. Ok, to be a little more helpful, it's clear that this background info is quite real to you (you're not struggling to bring it to life) so can you think of a point of conflict, even in retrospect, which would develop a situation that would force these details to come into play? I'm not sure if I'm making myself clear, but generally if I can't find a way to convey information interestingly, then it's because I've failed to give the scene a strong conflict. Anyway, even not knowing the flow of your novel, that's my suggestion: Add conflict.

Best of luck - the answer will probably arrive at some awkward time - like in a meeting at work;)

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SirTimberWolf said:
Okay, as convoluted and hopeless as that bit sounded my basic problem and question are as follows: How do you personally hand taking on obscure cultural reffrences and bringing them to the reader in such a way that it makes sense without interupting the flow and narritive while at the same time making it 'feel' like it's coming from the character who sees it.
Hm. This medicine might taste bad.

First: if you feel you have to "infodump" about the species' culture, why now? If they're that important, is it possible that they (and their culture) should've been mentioned earlier and details dribbled in so this upcoming bit would be such a magilla?

Second: if you haven't needed to dribble in details before this, then ask yourself if these guys are really all that important? Be brutally honest with yourself – it's easier if you're brutally honest – and make changes – rather than hearing the brutal honesty of an agent/editor/critic. If it turns out that the details aren't that important, then it's only critical that you, the writer, know what the culture's symbols are. When you get down to the narrative, all you have to do is convey that your characters know what's up without having to school your readers on it as well.
 

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Are you writing in third person? What's your narritive personality like? And like Ordinary_Guy asks, what if any cultural explanations do you do in the rest of the book?

Me I handle the issue by having a 1st person viewpoint character with an analytical bent and a lots of introspection.
 

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Thanks for the replies, now to try and answer your questions :x

Okay,
Up till this point the characters have been given snips and bits, mostly relating to the history of these people, some things such as cultural intricacies have been left out (which is why I kind of want to build on the shock value) such as how they treat women (being a race of all females they give human females a second class citizenship and admonish mating, obviously)
I *hate* info dumps handled wrong, those handled 'right' are more documentary than a good narrative, unless the POV character is prone to doing that. I wanna avoid that as much as possible. I'm kind of thinking of it as a variation on the tourist goes to a country with only a little guide book and no real direction (IE: Someone to say 'oh, that means this'.)
My POV character through most of it is a 17 year old young man who's already seen what their common enemy will go to so they can destroy these people (and his friend which dragged him into this) It's all told from a third person but in his psychological voice.
Most of the cultural references are with ceremonies and things like combat doctrine (leaving weapons behind when you go to enter someone else's establishment unless either invited or under combat conditions, certain shamanistic rituals involving spirit animals and the like.) Other references would include how they organized their fighting forces into four major houses to control various aspects of life (such as construction, religion, food, direct combat.)
Some things are told flat out by either the antagonist (through learning about his enemy) or by the main character's allies. But when it comes to going down into the depths of what it means to be one of them, the culture shock would still be there, not as bad obviously, but still present. . .
Oy, my head, sorry.

Oh, and thank you very much for the kind words. :)
 
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