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Hi everyone. I am a stay at home mom to my three young sons and I started writing short stories about a year ago. In that time, I have had five published, (both online and in print). Another of my stories will be published in two ezines soon. That's the extent of my writing career thus far.

Yet, I'm trying to write a movie script. lol

It's going to be a family friendly Christian fantasy with humans and non- human characters, sword fights between angelic knights and demonic reptilian creatures and dual realms.

I had intended to write my first novel, but it just wasn't clicking for me. I could visualize things so clearly, but couldn't get things to flow in a prose form. I outlined the story fairly well, so I have a beginning, middle and end. I just need to fill in the blanks and get it written into a script.

I'm now about sixteen pages into the script and think it has gone well up to this point. (I've been working on it off and on when the kids cooperate with my creative energy) I'm using a demo version of Movie Magic, so the formatting should be basically ok, despite the fact that I knew nothing of script writing a few short months ago. I'm also constantly searching the net for more info and have been reading scripts at scriptcrawler.com

Being a newbie, I still have several questions and will probably end up posting some of them here eventually. For now, I just wanted to introduce myself and get my feet wet a bit. I've been enjoying reading all the threads and advice here tonight and look forward to learning from the more experienced writers.
 

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Debboggy said:
Yet, I'm trying to write a movie script. lol

Being a newbie, I still have several questions and will probably end up posting some of them here eventually. For now, I just wanted to introduce myself and get my feet wet a bit. I've been enjoying reading all the threads and advice here tonight and look forward to learning from the more experienced writers.
Well, Deboggy, I'm a fairly new member here myself, but I don't think there's a rule that prevents a fairly new member from welcoming a new member, so welcome to Absolute Write and may all your questions be answered here.

And may your screenwriting blossom!
 

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Welcome to the forum, I hope you find what you're looking for here.

Congrats on having stories published within your first writing year! It took me 5+ years of critique torture via online writing groups before I could string a semi-coherent sentence together, never mind get a story accepted anywhere!

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Take the critiques you get with a grain of salt. Invariably, some of the critics will be kooks, bitter curmudgeons, or complete fools. ~odocoileus
 

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Thanks for the nice welcome guys! I was a little intimidated after realizing how large this place actually is. The only other forum I'm active on is FaithWriters.com It's tiny compared to here (the most users they've had online at once is 42, and that was due to a glitch. hehe).

Derek, FaithWriters is also the reason I've been able to get the few things I've had published out there. One of my stories won 7th place in their weekly writing contest, which meant that it was included in their quarterly anthology. The others have been through contacts made on the forum.

They are a great group of writers who are always willing to give feedback on your work and I've learned a lot from them. One of them actually posted an unofficial contest which is how my script got started in the first place. :)

Unfortunately, they have just started the screenwriters' forum and it has gotten off to a bit of a slow start. That's why I was excited to find such a large group of screenwriters posting here. And I love that even though it's 12:45 am here in California, the boards still seem to be crawling with other writers. The time zone differences usually leaves me alone this time of night over there. Kinda nice to have so much company.
 

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Welcome to the forum !

As someone who is partial to the genre of your story, can I add a request?

I really enjoy the genre, but there is one popular attribute that drives me nuts - stories inevitably have the 'bad' characters being ugly and the 'good' characters being attractive.

If someone has scaly skin - they are evil. If someone has clear skin, they are good. It is hardly a good message for children - even ignoring struggles with acne !

Can you mix it up a bit? From a story telling point of view it also adds more drama if everyone can't tell immediately who the good guys / bad guys are.

Good luck !

Mac
 
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Welcome, Deb -- and hope you find what you're not even looking for yet!
 

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Hi Mac.

Hmmm...you made a good point that I hadn't thought of. Would it help if I mentioned that one of the main characters is a glowing blue bearlike creature with the main of a lion and ears like a lynx? :D

Actually, my original idea was to have knights and dragons. The knights work for the king, who happens to be symbolic of God, so they kinda have to be the good guys, which leaves the dragons as the bad guys.

As far as not being able to tell the good guys from the bad right away, in the first few pages, I have a bad guy, (by the way, I've named their species Dergerions and the good guys Coshtorans) stalking the human main character, and a couple Coshtorans are keeping an eye on him at the same time. It makes it pretty obvious who you should be rooting for, but no motives are given away at that point.

But I will consider your comment. Thanks for the input. :)
 

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Hi Deb,

Welcome to the forums!

We need more stay at home moms here.


Women writers of the world!
Stand up, unite against the misogynists of screenwriting!
Tear down the barriers!
Let's show em our stuff!!

[I meant our writing stuff!!!! Sheesh, men.]


Well, I used to be a stay at home mom.
Just got hired at Wal-mart. I have a charge card I need to pay off. :e2drown:


Don't be afraid to ask questions.
There is quite a bit of knowledge here and very few of us bite.

happy writing.
 

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Hi, Deb. Good luck. I have been learning a lot here and I'm sure you will, too.
 

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Scripter, I'll show 'em mine if you show 'em yours! lol Too funny.

Thanks for the welcome everyone. :)
 

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Hi Deb. I'm a newbie myself. Your script sounds like a good read. Buffy the Vampire Slayer succeeded and yours could too. Joss Whedon, writer and creator of the series, was turned down by many of the production studios before securing help from the Kuzui family. After the movie went so well, a larger studio picked up the series and ran it for seven seasons. The Angel spin-off series ran for five.

The moral is keep going and one day things may happen. Joss Whedon probably never thought he'd be sitting on such a success when he started!

S.
 

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Hey, an Aussie! Cool!

A lot of the ladies over on FaithWriters are from Australia and New Zealand. What part are you from?
 

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I'm in Adelaide. We're on the southern coast. The beach is 10 minutes from my home, but I haven't been there since 1996. I live in the middle of quiet suburbia, which is quite cosy.

Where are you?
 

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Hello Debb, nice to have you here! Goodluck and best to you on your script. If you need any help with anything let us know. There are many very helpful people here.
 

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Thanks Jerm, I'll be sure to take everyone up on any offers of help. I could use it. :)

Bubblegirl, I'm in Central California. I'd love to live ten minutes from the beach! The closest ones here are about one to two hours drive. :(

Adelaide sounds vaguely familiar. I think I've heard the FaithWriter Aussies mention it before or something. Val Clark is a FaithWriter over in Darwin and just wrote a script for Project Green Light Australia. She's one of only two people that have read my script so far and had some useful suggestions.

Deb Porter is a volunteer who pretty much runs FaithWriters. She's the Administrator for the boards, Weekly Challenge Coordinator and Editor of the FaithWriter Magazine. She's currently in Sydney, but she and her husband Steve have bought property in Queensland.

Karen Ellengikel (sp?) also lives in Sydney with her tribe of kids (5!) and is doing fairly well with her writing.

I'm a bit jealous because they are all meeting for a writers' conference in Katoomba, so they get to see each other face to face. I doubt you actually know any of these lovely ladies, but thought I'd mention their names on the off chance you might. Wouldn't that be an interesting coincidence? :)
 

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Hey Mac. I tried to reply to your PM, but it said you've exceeded your storage space and can't receive anymore until you make some room. Let me know when you clear out some space and I'll resend my reply. :)
 

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Sorry Deb, I don't know any of those people. To be fair, I don't go to writing conferences or events due to my disability so I've never had a chance to meet the other fabulous writers here in Australia.

S.
 

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Well, it was worth a shot. :) By the way, I looked up Adelaide and Sydney and a bunch of other Australian cities on Google Earth today. (For those who may not know, it's a free satellite view of the whole world that allows you to zoom in on any location fairly well) I got to see just how far apart you guys would be, so felt a little silly asking if you knew each other. lol
 

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Debboggy said:
Thanks Jerm, I'll be sure to take everyone up on any offers of help. I could use it. :)

Bubblegirl, I'm in Central California. I'd love to live ten minutes from the beach! The closest ones here are about one to two hours drive. :(

Adelaide sounds vaguely familiar. I think I've heard the FaithWriter Aussies mention it before or something. Val Clark is a FaithWriter over in Darwin and just wrote a script for Project Green Light Australia. She's one of only two people that have read my script so far and had some useful suggestions.

Deb Porter is a volunteer who pretty much runs FaithWriters. She's the Administrator for the boards, Weekly Challenge Coordinator and Editor of the FaithWriter Magazine. She's currently in Sydney, but she and her husband Steve have bought property in Queensland.

Karen Ellengikel (sp?) also lives in Sydney with her tribe of kids (5!) and is doing fairly well with her writing.

I'm a bit jealous because they are all meeting for a writers' conference in Katoomba, so they get to see each other face to face. I doubt you actually know any of these lovely ladies, but thought I'd mention their names on the off chance you might. Wouldn't that be an interesting coincidence? :)
Sometimes it's a small world, and the web makes it even smaller.

I'm from California .. LA ... but relocated to British Columbia when I was in my early 30's. Had the grand privelage of visiting in Australia in 98 for six months. Flew into Sydney on UAL Flight 15 non-stop 747-400 service from LAX, in Connoisseur Class no less. Fooled around Sydney for ten days then drove to Noosa up above Brisbane a ways in Queensland. I had a buddy there, in Tuchekoi on the St. Mary's River. He didn't know we were coming, walked right in on him and blew his mind. I met this guy in Bali, a Sydney boy through and through and more Aussie than any you'll ever meet, I mean this guy not only claims first boat status, he claims "first foot" status ... meaning he's descended from the guy in the first boat ashore from the first ship and became the first white man to set foot upon Australian soil. Colin MacLauchlan, singer/songwriter, surfer, clothing magnate, entertainer, and all round Mr. Australia, and now one of Queensland's reigning Kings. Well, he went to Noosa in the 60's to surf, when it was like an uninhabited Pacific atoll and aboriginals still lived in thatch roofed houses.

We stayed with Colin for a month, he has five acres in a lovely little valley, recording studio, an Aussie Queensland style house. Then we rented a place in Noosa and based ourselves out of there, a nice two bedroom apartment overlooking the back bay, three minutes form Noosa beach. Had a little rented car of some kind, an Aussie car or maybe it was Japanese, don't recall. Colin drove (I kept getting hacked out on the turnabouts) and took us on two and three day tours of the hinterlands and the coastal interior and Fraser Island, the largest pile of sand on the planet. Rainforest. Beaches, sweet river valleys, lovely little towns up in the hinterlands with great pubs, lotta sugar grown in there.

Ostensibly, I was doing research for a movie I wanted to write, and did in fact get around to doing quite a bit of that. Drove up to Townsville doing research, and to Long Reach, but went out to the GBR for the aventure, ditto Ayers Rock. My story is an American/Aussie tale that sets in War 2, in fact, the opening scene is the Japanese bombing Clarke Field in the Philippines on December 8th, 1941, same day as they hit Pearl Harbor (the international date line is between Manila and Oahu, so the dates are different, Pearl was December 7th, Clarke Field was the 8th, but it was the same day for all intents and purposes.

So we start when the war starts.

The Japanese were of course after oil and the oil was in present day Indonesia ... Sumatra, Java, the Western half of Papua New Guinea, Borneo. A Dutch Company we know as Shell Oil was there, developing the fields and pumping black gold. The Japanese swept down from the North and conquered everything in their path and by March of 1942 were threatening Australia. They actually bombed Townsville and Darwin and a few places in between. They were massing forces on Bouganiville, Truk, Espirito Santo, Guadalcanal, and on New Guinea, preparing to invade Australia. It would be a Normandy-like enterprise, huge.

Wouldn't have been so bad except the Australian Army was in the Middle East, helping to defend the Crown from Nazi assault, having been called there by the Queen herself a year before. Australia was wide open.

GEN MacArthur, the American Commander in the Far East whom the Japanese had defeated in the Philippines and sent packing to Australia, was in Sydney, the Australia Hotel, and he knew what was about to happen. And he dreaded it. The Japanese, owning Australia? It was unthinkable. Yet ...

So he calls Washington and pleads for help. Only to discover that Washington is all focused on trying to save England from Nazi invasion ... and Australia is 15,000 miles away and who, really, cares all that much?

But if Mac doesn't get help, the Aussie Goose is cooked.

Enter our hero, who naturally understands the Aussie plight and knows if he leads a force down there and staves off the Japanese, they'll make him a General ... and he's only 34. They've got him strapped to a desk but he wants to fly. Nobody else wants the mission, and initially he's even begudging 'cause he knows his wife ain't gonna like it. And she doesn't. And says so. Besides, he knows it ain't a slam dunk. In fact, the odds are long against him, miles long. But he fights off any second thoughts and jumps in with both feet.

Well, we all know that the Japanese never invaded Austraila, perhaps a vague recollection of some history text for some of us here, perhaps even many here but nevertheless we all know it. Hence we can assume our hero is successful in his bid to "save Australia." You can see the movie one day and get the inside scoop on how he pulls this off and what fate has in store for him at the end.

His outfits were based at Townsville and Long Reach, and a place called Mareeba or something ... I didn't manage to get out there. But I did manage to find a few living veterans of that time in Townsville and was able to talk with them and get lots of good information about what went on back in the day, photos too. Museums too of course, and libraries and small historical societies. I came home feeling well prepared to write the Third Act of "CHOICE OF HEROES" which sets entirely in Queensland and in the air over the islands to the North and on the sea round them. It ends on the Allied victory over the Japanese in the Battle of the Coral Sea, in May of 1942, and the Aussie Victory at Milne Bay in Papua New Guinea.

Sidetrack city!

Anyway I adore Queensland and the entire West Coast of Australia. Six months wasn't enough to even scratch the surface but it was all quite grand and marvelous, and Noosa Beach is just about the best beach on the planet. Great international scene there too. We will return. Best surfing ever.

Gota love Down Under, land of the Southern Cross.
 
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Don't feel silly, Deb. Like the US, many people travel from state-to-state, or correspond with others online. I have spoken to writers Rob Parnell and Simon Haynes, and they're in other countries. I just don't know any of the people you spoke of.

Although I don't go out, my reach is pretty far. I have lots of friends and acquaintances online. My editor lives in the US and publishers I have been querying live there too. Some of my friends travel a lot so I've seen pictures of Denmark, America, Korea, Netherlands, China, Latvia, England, France and New Zealand. Sometimes in life we just meet people and bond directly and never let go.

S.
 

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Hi Goodwriter,

Actually, Queensland is the east coast. But I knew what you meant :) There is a lot to see in Queensland and Sydney, apparently. My city of Adelaide is like a smaller version of Melbourne. Here we speak a mild aussie accent, like Heath Ledger does. The thicker accents like, "goin' for hard yakka, mate," are further north in the outback. Paul Hogan types.

An american writing Australian does sound interesting. It would be nice to hear how other countries view us as a people and nation. Constantly there is the Australian persuasion from an Australian author. Be sure to share your thoughts. I don't know about the other aussies on this board, but I really don't mind what you say. Nobody has ever said anything to really offend me. There are certain things I believe about us anyway. Such as, "We don't have an accent; we just miss out our letters -- we're that laid back!"

I've told people this before. Think about it. Aussie speak sounds like this:

'ow's it goin' mate?
Wh't yer doin'?
You wan' a drink or food?
 

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So Guy what's the status on that script? Glad to bring back some good memories with my naivety. :)

I would love to travel more, but so far, my travels are pretty limited. I've only been on a plane once. Well, twice if you count the return flight home. I was fortunate enough to get married and enjoy our honeymoon both in Maui. That was pretty much a trip of a life time for me.

We snorkeled in the Pacific, went to a luau, drove up a volcano, hiked through a bamboo forest so dense, it blocked out the mid-day sun, and sat behind beautiful waterfalls. And to top it off, I found a one carat diamond tennis bracelet at the Seven Sacred Pools! Not bad for a girl born in a tiny town in the middle of the Mojave Desert. :)

Needless to say I'm trying to convince my husband that we need to retire there when the time comes.
 

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I say welcome, too!

The guys here aren't too bad...well most of them!

It's nice to get a male pespective on things...and another woman's if around.

Looking forward to reading your scripts.

Good luck!
 

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Well!

Since this has turned into an Aussie thread let me put in my bit.

I'm from Indiana BUT five years ago I visited The Land Down Under on a research trip as well.

My contact lived in Adeliade. Beautiful place.
The Coffin Bay Pony Society flew me out to Coffin Bay National Park and I was able to spend almost two weeks camping out in the brush with the Timoor ponies. A foal was born the night I arrived and the next day I got to handle it. Awesome, just awesome to be the first to work with this brand new, wild horse.
(even though he stepped all over my sunburned feet.)

It was funny, over there I was the one who had the accent.
I'd never thought about it before. People had always come to my country and I loved their accents. But now people were asking me to say various words and giggling about the way I sounded.

It was fun.
I love the Aussie people.
The country was just breathtaking.