Why Non-fiction?

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Lavinia

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I'm wondering how everyone came about choosing to write non-fiction vs. any other kind of writing? I'm not just refering to book writing but also articles or whatever.

I've spent the last year writing fiction, with no success at all. My only (very small) success has been with true experiences I've had. Now I'm wondering if I am trying to push something (fiction) that isn't natural or a passion for me.

Any thoughts?

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In my case, you answered the question you also posed. When I started writing seriously some 30 years ago, I only submitted fiction. All I managed to place were a couple of poems and a short story for small university mags. So I started writing what I knew, fishing and outdoor-related stuff, and the cheques started coming in.

Over time I discovered the joys of creative nonfiction and I began to sell some of those pieces. I write very little fiction now and mostly for my own enjoyment.
 

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Because nobody would want to buy a fictitous how-to manual.

Seriously, I only really got serious about writing after fielding so many questions on a couple automotive forums that I thought, "Hey, maybe I should write a beginner's guide to performance cars." So I sat down and banged out a first draft of one, then a second draft. I'll shop it around for a publisher sooner or later.

Then I decided to try and write some articles. Originally, for automotive magazines. Hey, it would help sell the book if I were a more well known commodity. Haven't sold any yet, but I'm working on it.

And once I got in the habbit of writing, I thought I might as well try my hand at non-fiction too. So I'm trying to sell my first short story and working on my first novel. I'll see where this goes.
 

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I write both non-fiction and fiction. The fiction more for money and the non-fiction as an extension of my main profession.

The non-fiction was not really an aspect of my writing, more an outgrowth of becoming an expert in a non fiction area (animal behavior).
 
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Similar to Frank, I began with fiction (screenplays and short stories), but didn't have much success and needed to pay bills. I began writing magazine articles and was very encouraged by my much better acceptance rates, then I started writing nonfiction books.

My fiction brain is really rusty, though. I don't come up with new ideas for short stories, scripts, or novels the way I used to. Every now and then a children's picture book pops out, but other than that, I stick to nonfiction. I found out I'm good at it and I can make a living with it, so that's enough for me!
 

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I don't know the breakdown, but there's much more non-fiction than fiction. I think I write both, I say 'think' because I've written non-fiction that sold as fiction and fiction that sold as non-fiction. Since it's mostly humor nobody much cares because it's entertaining. But there's much more to humor than 'funny.' I think that's why I write it.
 

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When I started out I wanted to be a novelist. I decided to start out by writing children's fiction because it was shorter and easier ( hey, stop bashing my head! I learnt better, didn't I?) and then progress to commercially successful fiction ala Stephen King, Dean Koonz etc.

What happened was I published some children's fiction, realised I could not make a living at it and found some interesting topics to write articles about. In the process, I learnt there is more demand for non-fiction in the markets readily accessible to me, and that I actually enjoyed writing it.

I still write children's fiction, and hope to develop a solid body of work. Maybe, in a couple of years or so, I'll revisit the great African novel I began. But right now I don't have the luxury of working on a project that will not earn me money in the short-term.
 

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Nonfiction works best for me.

I write nonfiction for two reasons:

1. I'm a subject expert in a technical area.

2. It pays better, and more regularly.

My last published foray into fiction was for a college yearbook. I would love to produce some saleable fiction, but have great difficulty finishing my stories. I've produced around fifty well-begun fiction pieces of various lengths. I have ADHD, and focusing is sometimes very difficult.
 

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I write more non-fiction because it's the only thing I've had paying success at. I have a rather unique hobby, and my experiences there lend well to articles and stories.

Plus, with non-fiction, I already know the ending, so it's much, much easier.
 

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Wow, Thanks guys (and gals)!

I love the responses. You gave me the boost I needed. Well, except for the part about how all of you are so successful and are making real-live money...that's a little depressing to me, who has only earned, to date...a $25 gift cert. to Staples, $100 worth of books and a college scholarship worth $2000. I want cash, man...real-live cash!

Anyway- Thanks!

Lavinia
 

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Me, A Fictional Writer - You Have To Be Kidding!

For some odd and crazy reason I cannot write fiction. I don't know why, I have tried -- however, I seem to always resort to writing nonfiction. I guess it's just a matter of perspective. If I have seen or experienced or have heard about something, I am able to write about it. Just pulling a story out of the air is something I have not mastered. Tracy, can write fiction all day long. Below, is a fictional story I wrote as an article – just to see if I can write fiction. Well, the article proves that I need a lot of help writing fiction:


Trying My Hand At Writing Fiction
By Argile Stox
Mar. 16, 2006

Well, today I’d thought it would be a good time to try my hand at writing fiction. The hardest thing for me to do is start an opening sentence. Every teacher and professor I had through high school and college drummed into my head, ”You must have an eye grabbing, thought provoking opening sentence - for someone to begin reading your material.”

The funny thing is that the fictional story is a story that has all already been written in my mind. Yet, for some strange reason I cannot bring the story to life on paper. I am just stuck on the dreaded opening sentence. I would imagine that seasoned published writers and journalists have no problem with opening sentences. I guess to make it easier for you to understand this situation, I will put it to you like this; I am in a nightclub and a woman catches my eye. Many guys have walked over to her and she basically just told them where to go and how to get there.

Meanwhile, I’m building up the courage to talk to this young woman. However, what do I say to her that she has not heard a thousand times that evening? That is the trouble of having trying to write something fictional –and writing an opening sentence You only get one chance to make a first impression.

The fictional story I have in my head is very short. It is not going to be a novel, novelette, or anything like that. It is going to be a funny short story. That’s it! However, I am a nonfiction writer –if it hasn’t happened yet, I have not written about it, yet. Writing a fictional story is like throwing a box of Lego‘s me, and telling me to build something. I don’t know how to get started and I don’t know what I want to build, etc.

I truly would like to write this funny short story –however, it may offend a certain religious sect. I am Jewish. I am the most reformed Jewish person you’ll ever meet roaming on the face of this earth. I eat ham, bacon, sausages, and may have an occasional glass of milk when consuming a corned beef sandwich. “Oy-Vey, as in a truly a lost Jewish person.”

The Short Story Begins This Way:

This short story deals with a man who is in his late thirties, and lives in a moderately Jewish orthodox neighborhood in Brooklyn, New York. The man, I will call Harry –follows all the Jewish traditions, attends synagogue on a regular basis, and tries very hard to follow the edicts and traditions of his religion. However, Harry has a deep secret. He enjoys a good ham sandwich on rye, with a little mustard or mayo, and a cream soda.

If he were to walk into one of the eating establishments in his neighborhood, ordered a ham sandwich on rye with mayo, and a cream soda –the patrons of the establishment, who knew of Harry - would get really pissed-off. For it was a Sin to eat pork, or have milk with meat.

However, when Harry was in college a friend gave him a half a sandwich to eat. The sandwich was the most delicious food item Harry had ever eaten in his lifetime, up until that point. When Harry found out it was a ham sandwich –he ran to the bathroom, and tried to empty the contents of his stomach in the toilet. After that experience Harris swore up and down that he will never eat any pork products, again. Harry got down on knees‘, said a short prayer and asked god for “forgiveness.”

It is now twenty years later, Harry is married, has a great job in an accounting firm, and has a son and daughter, and very loving wife. They do not keep a kosher home –however, there are some Jewish traditions that they do follow. One of these traditions forbids eating any pork products. Harry on the other hand, never forgot how delicious that ham sandwich was. His mouth would water each time he smelled or saw a honey baked ham in a store or in a friend’s house. This problem with ham did not disrupt his life. Harry just made it a point to stay away from all pork products, and live his life as usual. However, one day his desire to have a piece of honey baked ham got the best of him.

One Sunday morning, Harry told his wife that he needed to run down to a local hardware store and purchase a few parts to repair a household item. His children were at their usual Sunday activities and his wife was looking forward to reading the New York Times. So, Harry got into his car and drove twenty miles out of town to find a restaurant that served honey baked ham.

Within 30 minutes Harry found a restaurant and parked his car in the back of the eating establishment so that no one would recognize his car. A few minutes later he was seated at a table and placed his order: “Two slices of honey baked ham, sweet potatoes, and the cream soda.” It did not take a long time for his order to arrive and it placed on a table before him.

As he was about to take his first bite of the succulent piece of honey baked ham, who should walk into the restaurant? His brother-in-law! Harry immediately dropped the fork to the ground and tried to find someplace to hide. However, Jerry – Harry’s brother law, placed his hand on Harry’s shoulder and said, “We need to talk!”

Jerry was a good guy and always treated Harry with respect. “Harry, I went through what you’re going through, right now. I was busted for eating a bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwich by my cousin a few years ago. Don’t worry Harry - your secret is safe with me.”

After that, Harry and Jerry had a good conversation. They caught up on all the gossip and family events that had transpired since their last saw each other. After about an hour, Harry and Jerry left the restaurant; and before Harry could open the door to his car, Jerry handed Harry a card. It read, “Pork Products Eaters Anonymous. Hot Chicken Soup served at every meeting.” Harry placed the card in his wallet and thanked Jerry for his understanding.

The next day, Harry confessed to his wife that he had a predilection to eat ham. He also produced the card that Jerry had given to him. Harry‘s wife was very understanding and attends meetings with Harry twice a week. Both Harry and his wife enjoy going to the meetings, because it strengthens their marriage and they see old friends. However, no one else in the family knows about Harry’s addiction to ham. Let’s keep it that way….

End of Fictional Story – So, how did I do? Was it at least – Funny?
Do you see what I mean? That, is why I write nonfiction....

Argile Stox
 
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Right, I definitely need to know this.

If you are writing non-fiction articles, at which point did you consider yourself 'expert' enough to put pen to paper?

I really enjoy writing non-fiction as opposed to fiction, but dismiss many opportunities because I don't think I am 'expert' enough in that field to qualify to comment.

Plus, when it comes to non-fiction articles I am not really your typical, average woman, so the opportunities are limited.
Sounds weird but bear with me:-
Single woman, mid 40's, no kids, lives on an acre in rural Scotland with a variety of animals, cuts own hair, rarely wears make-up, fashion (ho-ho, only interested if it's thermal), creates havoc in offices so works from home, goes out - never (can't afford it), drives a 24 year old truck, doesn't have tv or buy glossie mags, only interested in blokes that can enhance my life not make it harder than it already is, shops for clothes in malls, never. Making money - I don't.

See, see! What the hell do I write about that would appeal to a popular market?
Yes, I can tell you about animal behaviour, but who wants to know about goats and geese? It's all dogs, cats and horses.

Dollywagon - whose life is so full of interesting things but that nobody else is interested in:Shrug:
 

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Dollywagon,

I am not an expert in nonfiction. I just write what I know. Please checkout my other articles on the link below. If you have a pop-up blocker - when you click on one of my articles, you may get that screwy page that says something about 'site can not be found' or something like that. Just click your back button and click on the article again. The article will come up.

http://www.useless-knowledge.com/columnists/argilestox/

Argile Stox
 

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Dollywagon said:
See, see! What the hell do I write about that would appeal to a popular market?
Yes, I can tell you about animal behaviour, but who wants to know about goats and geese? It's all dogs, cats and horses.

Dollywagon - whose life is so full of interesting things but that nobody else is interested in:Shrug:

There's actually a magazine out there on goat farming. And keeping a 24 year old truck on the road might qualify you to write for a magazine for the mechanically inclined. :)
 

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I don't actually keep goats for milking or breeding, Matt. They just help me manage the land - and I like having them about.

Mechanically inclined I am not, but then again I could always approach the health mags and tell them how driving a 2.5 tonner, with no power steering or assisted brakes has resulted in not having a jot of cellulite in sight;)
 

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Dolly- I actually find your life fascinating. There is a real interest in getting back to nature and getting away from all of the technology and conveniences of today. I think, written in the correct manner, it would make a great article. Of course, you have to believe that your life has something to offer that others need to hear about. No one will want to read an article about how much your life sucks. You must like your life or you would be striving for change.

I just saw a news segment about families who are choosing to not spend money on consumerism for a year. THe only exceptions are that they can buy things second hand, and of course medical care and food. But no movies, no new dishwasher, no DVD's, CD's, no new car, no gas for that matter, and so forth. So that little bit just shows you there is definitely an interest in a simpler life.

I say, start putting that positive twist on it and see what happens.

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Dollywagon said:
If you are writing non-fiction articles, at which point did you consider yourself 'expert' enough to put pen to paper?

See, see! What the hell do I write about that would appeal to a popular market?

Dollywagon - whose life is so full of interesting things but that nobody else is interested in:Shrug:

When deciding what you are an expert in, try listing your hobbies, chores you do daily, etc. and see what you come up with. Off the top of my head just from reading your post, I'd say you're probably an expert on country living and self sufficiency.

A couple magazines come to mind. . .Back Home and Backwoods Home. . .look up their websites and see if you might not get some article ideas.

Another you might find that fits is Country Woman.

As for who wants to hear about goats and geese. . .have you tried kids magazines? Kids who are into 4-H or just kids who love animals would find those subjects interesting.
 

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Thanks to all for your suggestions and I'm starting to get a bit of focus now.

I have actually submitted a childrens picture book story to a UK publisher about 4 weeks ago, and am hoping against hope that somebody at least bothers to scribble a few words of encouragement or guidance on the rejection slip!

I do find that I enjoy writing for children, in the same way that I enjoy teaching kids about the animals here when they visit.

...and anyway if I start to feel really mean I can always send out a few fashion articles and make-up tips to the glossies.

Heaven help the modern woman!
 

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Hullo!

I sort of fell into writing non-fiction, and I keep doing it because it sells, although I don't make enough from it to support myself. I've wanted to be a writer since I was nine -- alas, no child prodigy me -- and always expected I'd be doing fiction. My first attempts were lame and lamer, and I gave it up for a while. Now I'm back at it: I've spent probably 10 years on a "post-Arthurian" fantasy novel, which has the potential for spin-offs -- but I haven't found an agent or a publisher yet. I go back to it now and then, between non-fiction efforts. I have some other fiction that I work on rather half-heartedly. It's not that I don't believe in it, it's that I feel "guilty" working on it when I've never sold fiction, when I could/should be working on a non-fiction project I probably have a better chance of selling. (This should always be my worst problem!)

All blessings,
Ashleen
 
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