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I need a home for a 4 volume literary adult fantasy novel of approx. 2400 pages.
Now, my impecunious state prevents any rash or slight expenditures towards self publishing. So... all suggestions gratefully received. I really really really do not want to enter the scrabble for agents who won't look at unpublished writers and genuflecting to publishers that won't look at anything that doesn't come from an agent etc etc. I am supposing that no one will be able to think of anything, but just in case... here goes.
 

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Go to www.ralan.com and look under book publishers. There is a good list of small presses there, many of whom do not require an agent for submissions.
 

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Peekay said:
I really really really do not want to enter the scrabble for agents who won't look at unpublished writers and genuflecting to publishers that won't look at anything that doesn't come from an agent etc etc.

Genuflecting?

Come on. There's no scramble for agents and you don't have to genuflect. Just write a letter describing your work, leave out the attitude, and see if any (legit) agents bite.

If no one does, create a LiveJournal account and post your book on the web a couple pages at a time. That's free.
 

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HConn's got the right of it. If agents and publishers want to continue to eat and keep a roof over their heads, they need writers. Without exception, every single writer in your local Barnes & Noble or Chapters was once unpublished.

If you want readers - if you want to earn money - learn to play the game well enough to make it to the majors.
 

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150,000+ words per book is going to be a hard sell, probably even more so to the small press. You may want to consider trying to shorten the manuscripts first, or redistribute them into more volumes.

If you're not interested in agents or commercial publishers, you may want to consider Lulu, a POD printer who charges no fees for its basic service. Keep in mind, though, that you're not likely to sell many copies through this (or any self-publishing) route.
 

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just a thought

just a thought, but you may want to section it off on submissions to the first volume only and really push it hard...if you get interest with it and get it published then they will likely want to see more of the same.

Also, many big publishers will still accept queries and ask for solicited materials later if they are interested. ...Tor, Baen, etc...

Rev. James
 

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Peekay said:
Now, my impecunious state prevents any rash or slight expenditures towards self publishing.

At first I was going to ask if you were receiving medical attention for that. :tongue Then I remembered Dictionary.com.

Peekay said:
So... all suggestions gratefully received. I really really really do not want to enter the scrabble for agents who won't look at unpublished writers and genuflecting to publishers that won't look at anything that doesn't come from an agent etc etc.

Query agents who accept subs from unpublished writers. Or query publishers who accept subs from unagented writers.

They exist, trust me.
 

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Agreed-- 150K per book is too long. You might want to go through and tighten things up before putting that in front of an editor.

Sell the first book first, then worry about the other three.

But if you want to be published with the big boys you'll have to go through the hoops, like it or not.

Finding an agent need not be a problem. Just check the website of any writer's whose works are similar to your own. Usually a polite, short e-mail asking for the name of their agent will generate a reply.

Most don't mind sharing, just don't tell them allll about your book(s), they won't be interested.

The process of submission is slow, but you can't beat the payoff. It is not impossible. My first novel was picked off the slush pile with a major publisher and got me a 6-book contract. After I'd turned in three of them I started shopping for an agent. That wasn't too hard as I called a writer friend and asked who repped for her.

The agent--despite my contract--wanted to read my stuff before taking me on. That was a GOOD thing. It told me he would only rep for a writer whose work he could get fired up about.

Check out sites like Miss Snark's blog for invaluable insight to the agent process. She's a HOOT.
 

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aka eraser said:
Without exception, every single writer in your local Barnes & Noble or Chapters was once unpublished.

No, I think James Patterson was born published.
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In the writing world, length is not as important as quality. The agent that turned down THE CRIMSON PETAL AND THE WHITE is probably kicking him/herself right now. Lots of people turned that one down, actually, and it's been a big success.

I just sold my first "literary" fantasy novel (though, I prefer to call it "anti-epic"). Mine was considered very, very long at 85,000 words. A breezy, light book that reads like drinking water has no problem being 85,000 words. Dense, mythological poet writers aren't usually enjoyable for 100,000+ words. Without seeing your manuscript, however, it's impossible to truly judge.

To sell any book, a great way to begin is with a literary agent. A great way to find your literary agent is to find authors on the bookshelves who share your audience. Find out who they use as their agent, and find out who their editor was. Usually these nice folks are in the acknowledgment page, or an author's website. Carefully target those agents and editors, with professional-quality proposals.

Since my book isn't out until 2007/2008, you can't find out my literary fantasy agent from my acknowledgment page, yet. My literary agent is Bob Shuman, at the Peter Rubie Literary Agency. Their website is www.prlit.com.
As someone with a literary agent, (for the last three months) I simply could not imagine life without one. Without an agent, it took me years to get a book looked at by a decision-maker. Now, I'm getting books looked at by the right people in a matter of days and weeks. My contract negotiations were handled by someone with 19+ years experience with these contracts and many contacts in the industry to consult. The continued business stuff for my books are also in capable hands, so I can focus on writing more books.

A few dozen rejections is a small price to pay for that kind of support. I actually recieved nearly 100 rejections from publishers and agents before I sold my book -- not counting my exceedingly numerous rejections at literary magazines and whatnot. If you can't take the heat, you have the wrong goal.

Without seeing your work, I cannot gauge whether your length is appropriate. However, whenever I think I'm finished with something, I try my darndest to edit the work in half. I'd advise you to aim for about a third, just judging from the size of what you are describing compared to my own literary fantasy work.

Good luck researching and submitting to agents and editors. Don't sweat rejections. You get numb to them after about 150. And, every single ime you submit, it just might be the magic one that leads to publication. You never know until you try.

-badducky
 
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