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Recently I saw a sticky with an almost clinical breakdown of what defines certain genres. In particular, I am really try to get a grasp of what defines 'suspense' and what defines 'horror'. Would someone be so kind as to point me to that sticky since I can't find it for the life of me. It was very helpful.

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My take on suspense: Suspense is a genre sandwiched between mystery and thriller. They're more violent than a mystery and less violent than a thriller. They always feature a crime of some kind and appear to have far fewer subgenres that mystery or thriller. It looks like the stories are specifically for women readers because of both topics and how the stories are structured. It's very common to see serial killer stories (usually in combination with a romance), stalker stories, things returning from the past, etc. Paranormals, specifically psychic powers, are also common for this genre (no ghosts, vampires, or werewolves, though). FemJep--Females in Jeopardy--is a subgenre.

For authors, check out Mary Higgins Clark, who is regarded as the Mistress of Suspense and Kay Hooper (paranormal suspense). Romantic Times also identifies new suspense novels in their review section each month. You might try reading a couple and comparing it to a couple of horror novels. I'm afraid I don't know too much about horror, though I believe it's recently had some genre identification problems.
 

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There are so many cross-genres and subgenres anymore that sometimes it is difficult to pinpoint what a novel falls under. If you can't find yourself in any category then maybe you have a mainstream or literary novel. Personally I don't like the term "mainstream" and even if it is not exactly correct, I try to pick a specific genre to classify my book. For example, one of my books involves a private detective and a hint that there may be paranormal activity, but there is no crime committed or mystery to solve; still, I labeled it as a paranormal mystery because it was the closest genre to what my book represented. Besides, it doesn't have to be exact. The genre is more like a guideline, rather than a concrete label. To answer your question directly, suspense is not quite a thriller, but a close relative. Horror has many subgenres and anything with a sense of fear (in a monstrous sort of way) could be labeled as such.
 

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In a nutshell (and generally speaking):

The mystery usually has the murder (or other disaster) occur at the beginning of the story, and the rest of the novel deals with the hero finding out whodunnit. Big on character, how s/he figures things out, interacts, foils the baddies, shows off intelligence.

The thriller usually has the murder (or other disaster) looming throughout the novel till the very end, and the hero has to stop it. Big on action, how s/he overcomes the obstacles that the villain creates to foil the hero from stopping the murder (or whateva), and the murder usually is stopped.

The suspense, IMO, is just another word for the thriller, since a lot of thrillers are listed as both. But if you want to get nitpicky, I have read stories where one murder (or disaster) occurs at the beginning, and the hero is not only trying to figure out whodunnit, but is trying to prevent another (bigger) such calamity from occuring, which climaxes at the end; or the hero is in mortal danger throughout the rest of the novel as s/he tries to figure it out. I suppose this could be considered the suspense, for lack of a better term. But look at most of Alfred Hitchcock's movies... they were all termed "suspense" back in the day, and are today just as often referred to as thrillers. In most of his movies, something very bad is apparently going to happen unless the hero prevents it, or (as in REAR WINDOW), something bad does occur, and the hero becomes endangered while trying to figure out whodunnit.

The horror story... can't help you there. I know one when I see it, but I haven't read enough to define it as clearly as the others. I suppose you could use elements from the mystery or thriller, and instead of a "simple" murder or such, substitute an element of the supernatural (ghost, monster, Rosie O'Donnell) and it might be considered horror. But I'm just specultaing.
 

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Thank you all for your thoughts.

IMO, I can understand Thrillers more distinctly because, again IMO, it often centers around something BIG, be it a nuclear disaster, a deadly infection, or anything else global. Also, the pace is so much more intense.

Suspense seems to bleed into horror a lot more though (pardon the pun). It's as if a certain amount of blood n' guts are shown it transfers over into horror--but even that's not fool proof. For example, in film The Sixth Sense, Jaws, or The Silence of the Lambs are traditionally listed under Suspense while The Shining or Psycho are distinctly Horror. It's baffling.

And even more baffling is the fact that so many agents are actively looking for Suspense manuscripts but would never touch Horror ones...
 

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BUMP!

:)

Does anyone else have any opinions? I am still hoping to find that sticky/post with the breakdowns of so many genres. If anyone knows its location I would greatly appreciate a heads up...
 

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mattwaterman said:
BUMP!

:)

Does anyone else have any opinions? I am still hoping to find that sticky/post with the breakdowns of so many genres. If anyone knows its location I would greatly appreciate a heads up...

You're probably not going to find a good breakdown of suspense (or thriller). When I started working on my book, I looked all over the place for a good definition of those genres--and I couldn't find anything. Because they're on the same shelf as mystery, most people lump them together with mystery or compare them to mystery rather than come up with specifics about what the reader wants to see in those books. Most of what I've learned about them has come from simply reading lots and lots and lots of them.
 

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Yeah, I guess. I was just wondering about industry standards, particularly in regard to query letters...

Thanks for your insights though! I've since gone up and down the genres on Netflix to a marginal degree of enlightenment.

:)
 

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YES!

Thank you Cathy! That was the one I was looking for. And yes, that does help clarify, in addition to everyone else's thoughts.

Thanks!!!
 
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