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Let's get it going again.

I like Royal's idea of starting at the beginning and talking about what each scene does and how it moves the story forward, etc.

Also we can discuss what was changed, left out, and why that was.

I noticed they changed the whole opening sequence.
Starting with Andy instead of the lovers.
Makes it HIS film from the beginning.
 

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Thanks Scripter for keeping it going! :)

For anyone who needs to refresh their memory, here is the first sequence.

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               INT -- CABIN -- NIGHT (1946)

               A dark, empty room. The door bursts open. A MAN and WOMAN
               enter, drunk and giggling, horny as hell. No sooner is the
               door shut than they're all over each other, ripping at
               clothes, pawing at flesh, mouths locked together. 

               He gropes for a lamp, tries to turn it on, knocks it over
               instead. Hell with it. He's got more urgent things to do,
               like getting her blouse open and his hands on her breasts.
               She arches, moaning, fumbling with his fly. He slams her
               against the wall, ripping her skirt. We hear fabric tear. 

               He enters her right then and there, roughly, up against the
               wall. She cries out, hitting her head against the wall but
               not caring, grinding against him, clawing his back, shivering
               with the sensations running through her. He carries her
               across the room with her legs wrapped around him. They fall
               onto the bed. 

               CAMERA PULLS BACK, exiting through the window, traveling
               smoothly outside...

               EXT -- CABIN -- NIGHT (1946) 2

               ...to reveal the bungalow, remote in a wooded area, the
               lovers' cries spilling into the night... 

               ...and we drift down a wooded path, the sounds of rutting
               passion growing fainter, mingling now with the night sounds
               of crickets and hoot owls... 

               ...and we begin to hear FAINT MUSIC in the woods, tinny and
               incongruous, and still we keep PULLING BACK until... 

               ...a car is revealed. A 1946 Plymouth. Parked in a clearing.

               INT -- PLYMOUTH -- NIGHT (1946) 3

               ANDY DUFRESNE, mid-20's, wire rim glasses, three-piece suit.
               Under normal circumstances a respectable, solid citizen;
               hardly dangerous, perhaps even meek. But these circumstances
               are far from normal. He is disheveled, unshaven, and very
               drunk. A cigarette smolders in his mouth. His eyes, flinty
               and hard, are riveted to the bungalow up the path. 

               He can hear them f***ing from here. He raises a bottle of
               bourbon and knocks it back. The radio plays softly, painfully
               romantic, taunting him: 

               You stepped out of a dream... 

               You are too wonderful... 

               To be what you seem... 

               He opens the glove compartment, pulls out an object wrapped
               in a rag. He lays it in his lap and unwraps it carefully -- 

               -- revealing a .38 revolver. Oily, black, evil. 

               He grabs a box of bullets. Spills them everywhere, all over
               the seats and floor. Clumsy. He picks bullets off his lap,
               loading them into the gun, one by one, methodical and grim.
               Six in the chamber. His gaze goes back to the bungalow. 

               He shuts off the radio. Abrupt silence, except for the
               distant lovers' moans. He takes another shot of bourbon
               courage, then opens the door and steps from the car.

               EXT -- PLYMOUTH -- NIGHT (1946) 4

               His wingtip shoes crunch on gravel. Loose bullets scatter to
               the ground. The bourbon bottle drops and shatters. 

               He starts up the path, unsteady on his feet. The closer he
               gets, the louder the lovemaking becomes. Louder and more
               frenzied. The lovers are reaching a climax, their sounds of
               passion degenerating into rhythmic gasps and grunts.

                                   WOMAN (O.S.)
                         Oh god...oh god...oh god...

               Andy lurches to a stop, listening. The woman cries out in
               orgasm. The sound slams into Andy's brain like an icepick. He
               shuts his eyes tightly, wishing the sound would stop. 

               It finally does, dying away like a siren until all that's
               left is the shallow gasping and panting of post-coitus. We
               hear languorous laughter, moans of satisfaction.

                                   WOMAN (O.S.)
                         Oh god...that's sooo good...you're
                         the best...the best I ever had...

               Andy just stands and listens, devastated. He doesn't look
               like much of a killer now; he's just a sad little man on a
               dirt path in the woods, tears streaming down his face, a
               loaded gun

               held loosely at his side. A pathetic figure, really.

                                                       FADE TO BLACK:
                                                       1ST TITLE UP

I used the first few scenes because it shows us the full picture of what is going on. According to my final draft, this is the first two pages. Just another example how you must hook your audience ASAP.

What did this opening give us?

I think the most important aspect of these scenes was that it opened up the main question...Did Andy kill his wife and lover? Was he capable of murder? Through most of the script this question plays in the back of our head, we wonder...Does Andy belong in prison, does he deserve to be locked up, does he deserve the sexual abuse, to have his life taken away?

In the real world we would say yes. Obviously he was drunk and out of his mind, he had a gun with the entent to use it, the people he sought out to kill are now dead. In the real world, adultery is no excuse to kill another human beings no matter how badly they hurt you. Murder is murder.

However the writer paints a very different picture of Andy. We don't see him as a cold blooded murder, instead we see him as the victim.

In the first scene we see Andy's wife and her lover going at it like a couple of teenagers, they have no care of who they hurt, no guilt. Of course we don't know this until we see Andy and his emotional state. Then we think...Oh my God, that poor man. And what's worse, he's hearing everything. Immediately we feel sorry for him, were transported into Andy's shoes, we see what he sees, hear what he hears, feel what he feels. So when we see the gun, it's alright. Despite what we know he will do with it, we are rooting for him. The writer manipulated our thinking into believing that Andy is the good guy, and in the process he planted the seed of doubt.

In one description we see Andy as being capable, angry and without emotion.

He grabs a box of bullets. Spills them everywhere, all over
the seats and floor. Clumsy. He picks bullets off his lap,
loading them into the gun, one by one, methodical and grim.
Six in the chamber. His gaze goes back to the bungalow.


In another we see Andy as hurt and pathetic, incapable of killing a fly let alone murder two people.

Andy just stands and listens, devastated. He doesn't look
like much of a killer now; he's just a sad little man on a
dirt path in the woods, tears streaming down his face, a
loaded gun.

Could he have done it?

Could Shawshank Redemption work without these first few scenes? Could the writer have not introduced Andy in the courtroom? I don't think so. Without these first few scenes we would not have seen the two sides of Andy, the one side being capable of murder, the other side incapable. The writer needed these first few scenes to plant the seeds of doubt. In the courtroom we see only one side of Andy, the side that tells us he's innocent. We would have no reason to doubt him, nor doubt anything else he does within the script.

The doubt is what keeps us intrigued, keeps us guessing. On one hand we see Andy as a caring individual who gives his fellow inmates hope and encouragement, but then again we have a feeling that Andy is up to something. He's hiding something, and because we don't know what it is, we see him as cunning and manipulative. Again is the doubt. Is Andy really a caring person who is innocent of murder, or is he a sneaky man who tried to lie his way out of his crime?

We don't know, and because we don't know, we keep reading (or watching) in order to find out.

I think this is what drives any script. In every script there is a goal and the doubt that this goal will be obtained. In order to show doubt, you have to show conflict. And that's what Shawshank Redemption did in these first few pages. Not only did it show the outside conflict, but the inner conflict. The outside conflict clearly obvious. The inner conflict being that he is angry and hurt and the struggle between these two sides that brings us to the doubt.

Analysing these first few pages has helped me further understand how important they really are. We need to ask ourselves...Do our first few pages of our own scripts add up to what is necessary to hook our reader? Does the main question intrigue our reader enough to keep them reading? What is it that makes our reader root for our main character? Do we show a three dementional character with an outer conflict and an inner conflict that will show both strengths and weaknesses? And most importantly do we plant the seed of doubt well enough to keep the reader guessing until the end?

Steph
 

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:Hail: Thanx Scripter! I really wanted to get this going again.

It's weird, even though the 1st scene isn't in the movie, it says something. It shows the passion. When I first read it, I didn't realize any more than the lovemaking passion. I knew nothing about the couple. Whether or not they were married or to whom. All i picked up was screaming passion.

Then we're in the woods listening to their primal howels. A step down from the initial passion, out in the woods with animals on a more instictual level. Also this brings a darker, more erie sense to the situation. Now somethings not right because a parked plymouth comes into the scene. Even if the words "pulling back" were left out the scene flows naturally from the passion of the house to the desorted situation of the car being there. It's the order the writer uses to describe the visual and pacing in which he does it, ending at the car.

Says: something's bad and something worse is about to happen. Now that were in the woods, we know it's not a puristic couple's wedding night.

TBCT'D
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I noticed they changed the whole opening sequence.
Starting with Andy instead of the lovers.
Makes it HIS film from the beginning.

Interesting observation. I must not have been paying attention because I had to go back and rewatch the opening. :)

I agree with you Scripter. The movie is about Andy, so why not open with Andy, rather than the lovers. Another reason they could of cut it might have been due to timing. Perhaps the movie was too long and this is just one of the scenes they decided to slash, reason being that it wasn't really necessary on the grand scale. Opening with Andy we still get the same effect. We didn't need to see the two lovers to know what was going on. We saw all we needed to see through Andy.

I think the reason why the writer included this scene was something along what pstudios was saying. The passion was so intense and magnified that when we see Andy and realize what's going on, it just makes the situation all that more jaw dropping. I think that's exactly what the writer was aiming for. He needed to up that surprise factor in order to get us to feel that much more sympathetic for Andy.

Steph
 
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;) Ok to continue:
I think they did start w/ Andy because it's his story. I wanted to comment on the scenes before this. now, they decrible Andy 2x here: first as who he normally is and second as the possed drunk we see now. It's clear in the description his state of mind has gone from sane to in sanity of drunkiness.
The scenes have gone from love to hedonistic sex to "infidelity". we see that now. Andy's at a real low. Now act'n comes in w/ him getting out and loading gun-this is the hook! It appears he's got plans to use it. Act'n says it all. Silence: he can hear it now, more bourbon. The way it's conveyed "bourbon courage"-he doesn't have the courage with out it! Steps from the car- he's goin to do it! The short action's in description say it all. Nothing more is needed.

The next scene further intensifies how he's tortured by situation and how intense it is 4 him. It can't be any plainer, the emotional hell this guy's in, but even in insanity and hell, the goodness of his soul won't let him progress. He's broken so badly, he couldn't kill if he tried.

This scene shows us the real Andy, as well as the real situation.

Jennifer
 
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