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FYI, someone (a PA author who I will not point out) has gotten Amazon to remove the negative reviews. Uh, I wish they wouldn't just do it because someone says to do it. If they actually read the reviews, they would see they are all well-thought out and meaningful. Just because they're bad reviews doesn't make them, well, bad reviews.

This stinks. Worse than Weiner's book.
 

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Not all of them are gone. Mine is still there. I'll bet Willem is fuming about it, too. ;)
 

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How in the Sam Hill can a PA author tell amazon to do anything?? I don't get it. What kind of pull does that author have, anyway?

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Not all of them are gone. Mine is still there. I'll bet Willem is fuming about it, too. ;)
It's 'cause your review isn't bringing down the star rating, since you gave it five stars.

Rob :)
 

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From your favorite-

"On the upside, Sooty seems to have been removed from the board. Jean
Marie has been gone for a while, again. But the big fish left is
Saundra Julian. If her and CBennet can be tossed, the board has a
chance again. Hell, maybe LindaP will even come down from her pompous,
self-righteous horse at that point."

Yeah he's still around.....

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I posted this at the overflow board, but I'll put it here too. I put up my own reveiw of Weiner's book. If you get a chance, take a peek. And be sure to tell Amazon how helpful it was to you :)


Whoops. It's not up yet. Check back there tomorrow.

Edit - OK, the review is there now.

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J.S. he's always around, and always making trouble. P.A. is all he has. It's his way of getting attention from his publisher. So, he lashes out at anyone for whatever reason. One more sign of decay at Pirate America.
 

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Trice ...

You live in Hemet? I have family living in Nuevo and I live in Yucaipa. Do you belong to any local writing groups and if so which ones? I am going to attend the Inland Empire branch of the California Writers Club in a couple of weeks in Montclair.

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Naw, can't get around to groups. Didn't know Inland Empire had a writing group.

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Joyce Ann Edmonton is one of those PA cheerleaders. She's the one who wrote to Amazon and told them that the negative reviews were inappropriate and had them removed.( Amazon should read those reviews and decide for themselves IMO)

Reading her posts regarding Meiners book, she checks in on this thread. don't know why she doesn't believe what all these nice people are telling her.
 

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don't know why she doesn't believe what all these nice people are telling her.

Because she is a PA zombie ...

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Naw, can't get around to groups. Didn't know Inland Empire had a writing group.

If you were interested in going we could always carpool ... I wouldn't mind picking you up. The next meeting of the Inland Empire Branch of the California Writers Club is on the 23rd at 10 am at the Borders bookstore in Montclair.

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I think Amazon is removing those reviews not because they want to stiffle free speech or that PA has any pull, but because of a more monetary reason. Amazon.com has been sued a few times because of bad reviews that were left up at their site that deal with deragatory remarks. The last I believed was by an ex-KGB agent who wrote a book about espionage. I think they know that PA is doing wrong and a lot of people are putting up bad reviews because of this. Their thinking may be that if left up PA, or the authors of the book being talked about, might try to sue them.
 

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It looks as if the PA Police don't care too much about the non-US Amazon sites. In terms of population, it may not be worth their time, perhaps?
There's one review on the Canadian and one on the UK sites, neither positive.
Hm. Wonder whether Amazon has an Iceland site?
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While I'm finding that reviewing Meiners' book on Amazon's websites (can anyone suggest a few others?) is good creative writing practice not to mention its therapeutic qualities, I wondered if a mass onslaught by all available disenchanted PA authors might help. I realise that it is compulsive reading only for newbies and PA die-hards and that few readers have ever heard of him or his company, nevertheless the reviews do seem to stir Amazon into deleting them with undignified haste - although the latest ones are surviving well. It only takes a few moments to put one up and who knows if it is done on a regular basis by many the pages could become cult reading like Atlanta Nights. The link to PA on Amazon's page makes me so annoyed I can't stop clicking on it. While Meiners and his scammers handbook are hardly a blip on the radar for Internet booksellers, constantly having to delete reviews while fielding complaints from fawning PA writers might eventually get to them. And unlike PA they have no incentive to ban their own customers

I agree with Jim that Internet articles are still a great way to get PA exposure into the search engines.

Just a couple of thoughts on a sunny day.

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