The New Never-Ending PublishAmerica Thread (NEPAT)

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Congratulations to all the freed prisoners, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, Tracy and Argile.

There's a new story on True Stories about PublishAmerica - Lisa's. You may need to click the refresh or reload button on your browser to see it, if you opened the site recently. It's a remarkable story. Some of the emails from PA are enough to boil the blood of a polar bear!

:e2steer:
 

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Wow, mass exodus from PA. I guess the arbitration losses really did get them running for cover. Willie can't bear the thought of parting with that heliocopter, ya know.

Yay! Strike while the iron is hot, folks... you want out, now's the time to ask. Tell them you will NOT promote your book in any way, shape or form, and you want out.
 

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AnnaWhite said:
Congratulations to all the freed prisoners, and I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you, Tracy and Argile.

There's a new story on True Stories about PublishAmerica - Lisa's. You may need to click the refresh or reload button on your browser to see it, if you opened the site recently. It's a remarkable story. Some of the emails from PA are enough to boil the blood of a polar bear!

:e2steer:


The more and more that I read about them, the more that I'm suprised that they are still in bussiness! How could anybody even think about letting themselves be talked to like that! Once again.....I'm happy that I found out about them before I signed with them.


(Off topic; Has anyone here had dealings with Mundania Press? Are they as bad as PA? I was thinking about submitting my book to them)
 
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JimmyD1318 said:
(Off topic; Has anyone here had dealings with Mundania Press? Are they as bad as PA? I was thinking about submitting my book to them)
Take a look at the index thread stickied at the top of the forum. There should be at least one Mundania thread indexed. If reading the Mundania thread doesn't answer your questions, post to it and it'll be bumped to the main page.
 

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Andrew Jameson said:
Take a look at the index thread stickied at the top of the forum. There should be at least one Mundania thread indexed. If reading the Mundania thread doesn't answer your questions, post to it and it'll be bumped to the main page.


Thank you, I checked it out.
 

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Congratulations......

To all the lucky people recently released from PA. I hope they will not continue to sell your books and laugh because now they do not have to pay royalties. Even if it was only a few pennies, I would want it.

Ha, PA, I will not ask. Keep my book, it will not do you any good anyhow. I have asked enough times to be released and you chose to ignore me, so I will get you any other way I can. That healthy file of "garbage" that you have been sending me for the last two years needs to be put to some good use. My royalty cheque had better not be "O" either, or you will have some explaining to do:).

Meanwhile, PA lurkers, listen carefully - PA will take your money; make it difficult to get your books into bookstores; give your writing a bad reputation by association and then kick you out the door whether you want to go or not because they have no further use for you or your book.

Have a nice day, PA!

postshy/Roberta
 

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Releases and Amazon

Congratulations to all those who received releases! It is almost a year ago I received mine. It is interesting that they are doing this right at royalty time.



I have gotten two phone calls from authors in the last couple of weeks that are seeking releases. There are more people out there working to get their rights back than we know.



Today I received an email from an author who was released a year ago. Unfortunately she signed the gag contract. Anyway, she wants to get Amazon and the other online bookstores to remove her PA book. She has rewritten it and wants to keep the same title, and now that she is ready to resubmit it, she doesn’t want it anywhere on the net. Does anyone have information about this? How do we get Amazon to take our pages down? I tried and they told me that as long as they have sellers offering used copies the pages will remain.

Should we be concerned about our books being up on Amazon. Would a publisher or agent bother to look and if they found it and saw it was printed by PA would this ruin our chances of getting our books published?
 
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Congrats Ken & Co. on getting your release, it's about time. As for how they are picking the releases? Maybe Willie is sitting in his office, crying over his lost money, and is placing us so called "PA bashers" names in his winter hat and drawing them out.

"Dang it, I didn't want to draw Ken's name out."

I can't figure out how they are choosing who to release and who to hold. What is their method? Cause I know I have not promoted my book after the first year and I will not. It is pointless. It was then, it is even more so now with the 5% discount.

Tracy, good luck.
 

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If I'm not mistaken, some online booksellers permit authors to post comments about their books. This would be a good place to post statements about how poorly PA has supported your PA-produced book and mention how many errors PA included. It might induce PA into greater speed in releasing your rights and terminating the contract. ;)

Hi, Victor. Just letting PA authors know of another place they can spread the truth. Waves to Willem, Larry, and Miranda.
 

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:Wha: At least it's off the market now.

I'm wondering if it's possible that he really, truly doesn't understand what plagiarism is? Though, given he says this:

I gave Credit to the Companies from where I got there Information from to use in my Book " Prevent Cancer Today ".

and this doesn't seem to have been the case at all, I'm guessing he at least understood that what he was doing was wrong.
 
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In the Mean time I will be fighting for Revenge against PublishAmerica for taking away all the success from alot of Author's.

Do you think PA is trying to send him to us, like some sort of secret weapon?:D

Now look at this, my second book will be big and I will have a different name on it so that no one won't try to Harrase me when the name " Pavel Tsupruk " is on it and this time I will be really smart with it.

I wonder if PA will publish him again? If he's using a different name, or if they just don't check (which would be my bet) they could end up in the same situation as before.
 
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Tilly said:
I wonder if PA will publish him again? If he's using a different name, or if they just don't check (which would be my bet) they could end up in the same situation again.

That would be funny. I wonder what kind of revenge he wants.

This guy is scary.
 

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"In the Mean time I will be fighting for Revenge against PublishAmerica for taking away all the success from alot of Author's."

Translated (nice-o-matic): I'm mad at you for taking my book out of production.

See, Willie, what did I tell ya. We are saving your butt more than Vic ever has. You would never have known about ole cancer boys plagarism if it wasn't for us. You would be losing more money in arbitration if it wasn't for us getting word out there and you letting authors go. We found all of the copyright violated covers you used.

What more can we do for you? If we keep this up we should start billing you. Fire Vic and hire us, it's that simple.
 

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Kevin Yarbrough said:
See, Willie, what did I tell ya. We are saving your butt more than Vic ever has. You would never have known about ole cancer boys plagarism if it wasn't for us. You would be losing more money in arbitration if it wasn't for us getting word out there and you letting authors go. We found all of the copyright violated covers you used.

What more can we do for you? If we keep this up we should start billing you. Fire Vic and hire us, it's that simple.

Arbitration, hell!

Those other authors could take you to court and you know it, Willem. What's more, they would win and you know that, too. We just saved you enough to purchase a whole family of helicopters. ;)
 

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Arbitration, hell!

Those other authors could take you to court and you know it, Willem. What's more, they would win and you know that, too. We just saved you enough to purchase a whole family of helicopters. ;)
Yes, those other authors whose copyrights Cancer Boy's book violated were not bound by any contract with PA. They wouldn't have to go to arbitration; they could sue PA's rump off.
 

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I can't believe this is still up!


You sure are working hard for such a small return. I went the same route you did, spent unnumbered amount of hours, long distance phone calls, paper and ink for posters, gas for my car, press releases, etc all for the privelege of having my books in a bookstore. Barnes and Nobles purchased five of my first book and place them in their store and sold all five copies. I was excited for sure.
Then reality set in when I received my royalty check from PublishAmerica. I received only $4.31 royalities from those five books. I have never worked so hard for so little in my whole life.

In doing some research here is something that I found really interesting.

"you will sell very few books, if any at all, through brick and mortar bookstores. Bookstores expect a 55 percent minimum wholesale discount on books which we cannot give because it makes the price per book too high. We give a 40 percent wholesale discount which is enough to have books listed in internet sites.

Bookstores know that most books published by POD have little or no promotion and will be unlikely to sell. Nearly all bookstores have access to the Ingram catalog and can order the books, however, depending upon individual store policies, some will allow customers to special order the books and some will not. Equally important, how many customers will go to a bookstore to order when they can just as easily order themselves over the internet?

To put the above in a nutshell, you would likely be wasting your time by focusing on promoting to brick and mortar bookstores."

This person is correct. Why would someone want to go to the hassle of going to a bookstore when I can purchase the same thing on line, from the privacy of my home? I can have it sent directly to me and save all the gas, and hassles of the bookstore.
Generally, I can purchase a book from the publishers website and receive a discount of somekind saving me money in the process.
 

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Maddog said:
I can't believe this is still up!
Maybe it's still up because it implies that selling books online actually works.

Problem is, unless someone knows it's a book they want, they won't buy it online. The way to find out if you want a book is to see it on a shelf and browse through it. Can't do that online, only in brick and mortar bookstores.
 

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Maddog said:
I can't believe this is still up!

Why not? That is exactly what PA wants. They want you to order books online or from them, they don't wants books in bookstores. If they don't sell to the author then they want to sell books online. One here, one there, money up front.
 
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