The New Never-Ending PublishAmerica Thread (NEPAT)

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DeePower

Ken, she didn't know.

AmandaPA actually said in a prior post that she didn't know her PA book would not be stocked in bookstores. It was like her second or third post.

I did not know that my books would not be in bookstores or that most bookstores won't even carry them. A thumbs down for PA.


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AmandaPA said:
As for the definition of publisher and author.
publisher: Someone who has books printed for sale
author: A person who writes books
Actually, those would be better defined as:

Publisher: One who makes books available to the public.
Author: A writer who has been published.

My point being that PA is nothing but a printer that makes only the most superficial attempt to make books available to the public (via Amazon, etc.). They are not a "traditional" publisher by any industry definition.

Out of curiosity (and so that others may understand how even experienced writers can be snookered), since you'd been commercially published, why did you consider PA a viable choice?
 
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AmandaPA said:
Someone asked me to supply proof that people are attacked here. I just was for my post. Also I have heard people called "idiot" and "spy for PA" if those aren't personal attacks, then I don't know what would be.
I was the one who asked that, and I don't agree that you've been attacked for your post. People have said things you didn't like, and they've disagreed with you. That's not attacking.

This is getting OT for this thread, ladies and gentlemen. I suggest that if it continues, we voluntarily move it to Overflow so some long-suffering mod doesn't have to move the posts later.
 
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AmandaPA said:
Someone asked me to supply proof that people are attacked here. I just was for my post. Also I have heard people called "idiot" and "spy for PA" if those aren't personal attacks, then I don't know what would be.

I can tell from your post you're not saying PA is ok but in defense of the board members here I will say that some of the people that may or may not have been called "idiot" probably were. Cancer boy was an idiot. His whole book was plagerized. He took articles from different sites from the net and put them in book form and sent it in. HB is an idiot. I'm not even going to go into the reasons why. C.E. is telling everybody lies there and that is very wrong, his writing is probably good but he is doing a big diservice to his fellow authors.

As for the spies? Shelagh was a spy, or at least acted like one. She came here and we gave her the respect she wanted. She ran back to the private PA board and bashed us. What would you call that?

I agree with you by the way. There are a lot of good writers at PA and I hope they learn the truth about what PA is sooner rather than later. Take care.
 

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I stand humbly corrected, Dee, Amanda.

But, for the heck of it. From 6-3-05 to 1-24-06

I am not including, The NYT offer, or, the buy your own books and receive royalties from Aug 2004. The third in this series is meant to, "Pump your up, and make you think that you can do this too.

Here are six months worth of send us money e-mails.


Dear author,

We have another milestone in our crosshairs: PublishAmerica is about to cross the "One Million Dollars Paid In Royalties" line.

Stop and imagine it for a moment: one million dollars that are finding their way to authors because others have decided to buy and read their books.

How rewarding this is. It truly underscores what we have been saying all along: PublishAmerica is treating its authors the old-fashioned way -- we pay them, thanks to your legions of book buying readers. We do not charge our authors a penny, ever. Instead, we pay them. A million dollars collectively! That's what good old traditional publishing is all about. PublishAmerica is a young company, we have barely entered our seventh year. And already our royalties paid over our young lifetime are amounting to this!

Book sales have been going through the roof lately, possibly in part as a result of our decision last year to make our titles returnable. Bookstore orders have doubled in the past few months, even in the famously slow first half of January, with bookstores ordering a PublishAmerica book every three minutes, day and night, seven days a week.

More than anything else, this is your success. You and your fellow PublishAmerica authors have written these books that others have purchased for their education or entertainment. It is the quality of your writing, above all else, that has caused our royalty payments to add up to this astonishing amount.

In the last week of next month we will be putting new royalty statements and checks in the mail. To celebrate the million-dollar milestone, we are making a rare exception by presenting an unusual offer to those who, under Pars. 5 and 10 of their contract, volunteer to order copies of their own book in the last week of January.

Do not buy any books that you don't need or want. PublishAmerica authors are under no obligation whatsoever to buy their own books, in any way, at any time. However, some of you prefer to keep copies of their own book on hand, and though we rarely if ever pay royalties on author purchases, this celebratory offer is for those promotional tigers among you who fall under that category.

So here goes:

On all orders of 60 or more copies placed by the author, we will allow a 45 pct discount, plus we will pay royalties on those books! These royalties will be included in February's check!


Dear author,

Consider the company you keep.

Today we are congratulating your fellow author Benjamin Frazier, who is well on his way to becoming a Hollywood celebrity! His PublishAmerica book "Shelly's Diary" is currently being filmed on location in North Carolina, starring Stella Parton (Dolly's sister) and Traci Dinwiddie (Dawson's Creek, The Notebook). The big-screen release is certain to create a buzz, and you may expect the film to show in a theatre near you! Seeing your book turned into a movie is every author's dream, so here's to Ben Frazier, with pride!

This has been a stellar year for PublishAmerica and its authors, with larger growth numbers than ever before. More than 30,000 new authors have submitted their work for our review this year alone, and we have signed a contract to 6,000 of them, for a whopping total of 16,000 authors currently under contract. For an indication of the impact that numbers like this have on book consumers, and on the economy, consider this:

*PublishAmerica books have reached more than a million homes, or more than one percent of all U.S. households. People who until recently had never heard of any of our talented authors, are now reading their works: a tremendous contribution to both literature and literacy.

*PublishAmerica is now capable of releasing a book within less than 30 days after we have received a manuscript's final draft. Books become available to a worldwide market faster than ever before.

*Until PublishAmerica was established, many authors such as yourself who were denied access to mainstream publishing houses, felt pressured to join a pay-to-publish vanity publisher as a last resort. At an average $1400 fee per vanity published book, PublishAmerica's 16,000 authors, who are never charged any fees at all, have been able to keep more than $22 million in their own pockets!

*Every ninety seconds, every business hour of the day, every business day of the week, somewhere in the country a bookstore needs and orders a PublishAmerica book. Barnes and Noble continues to be our number one retail vendor!

With the holiday season now upon us, this is the time to thank those bookstores. Therefore we are offering them a special discount that we are also making available to any individual, our own authors included, who consider this the ultimate book buying (and giving!) season:

25-50 copies of any book title: 40 pct discount;
51-100 copies: 45 pct discount;
101 or more copies: 50 pct discount.

To ensure delivery in time before the holidays, this offer expires December 8. Phone orders only at 301 695 1707. Full-color books are excluded.

Thank you for helping change an industry, and Happy Holidays!

PublishAmerica Author Support

Dear author,

With the new year now firmly in place, we have more happy news to share with you.

Today we are welcoming as a new PublishAmerica author Pulitzer Prize winner William Coughlin. He served as a World War II fighter pilot, taught journalism as a professor, wrote for the Los Angeles Times and United Press International, and was awarded the Pulitzer Prize in 1990 as a newspaper editor. Mr. Coughlin wrote us a very kind letter asking to join your ranks as a PublishAmerica author, and we are happy to welcome him, and his book "Beyond the Seas", on board.

We also celebrate the recent appearance of our author Hedda Nussbaum on the Larry King Live show. Hedda has previously been employed and published by Random House, and she joined PublishAmerica's ranks more than a year ago. Ms. Nussbaum, a well-known author who writes about domestic abuse, has enjoyed much media attention lately for her book "Surviving Intimate Terrorism". Congratulations!

Also, exciting things continue to be happening for PublishAmerica authors in and around Hollywood. After we announced the upcoming big-screen success of our author Benjamin Frazier a few weeks ago, we can now also inform you that author Lisa Croll Di Dio has seen her book "Sherwood Forest" optioned by a Los Angeles production company, represented by the Beverly Hills-based Michael Eisner law firm. Another PublishAmerica book, "Absolution: The Ted Roth Story" by author Edmund Hulton, has been made into a screenplay by award winning New York screen writer Doug Klozzner and is currently being shopped around in Hollywood.

That is all fantastic news, and it comes on the heels of a continued steady barrage of positive news stories about many other PublishAmerica authors. The Georgia News-Daily and the Fayetteville, Georgia, Citizen are writing enthusiastically about an author's second book with PublishAmerica. The Winchester, Virginia, Star calls an author's work "poetry in motion" and prominently pictures him signing copies of his book. The Clovis, California, Independent discloses to its readers that a local body-shop manager is actually a gifted novelist.

The Hoboken, New Jersey, Reporter highlights an author whose book portrays the town as it was during World War II. The venerable Arizona Republic reveals that another PublishAmerica author gave Ronald Reagan his tuxedo trousers to wear during a formal dinner in the Philippines. And this is just a small sample from the roughly sixty press clippings that we have seen last week, on top of PublishAmerica and its authors being trumpeted in big-circulation papers such as the Houston Chronicle and the Christian Science Monitor.

It is no wonder that PublishAmerica book sales have soared to an all-time high over the holiday season. Congratulations to all of you!

On behalf of the entire PublishAmerica team, we wish you Happy and Prosperous New Year!

PublishAmerica Author Support




Dear Author,
Every hour of every business day, bookstores nationwide order and stock a new PublishAmerica title. The store manager has decided to stock it because he believes that the book will sell. As a result, thousands of PublishAmerica books are sitting proudly on bookstore shelves all across the fruited plain.

And they do sell. They sell regardless of whether the bookstore can return unsold copies.

A bookstore's decision to stock a book is generally made by the manager. A bookstore typically stocks just one percent of the 190,000 new books that are published each year. For bookstores to stock all books published would mean adding 20 feet of new shelf space every day, seven days per week. Therefore bookstore managers must be selective on what books they choose.

Sometimes they base the decision on whether the book is returnable. If the book is not returnable, they sometimes choose not to stock it.

Many of our titles are already returnable. We have been running an experiment with an increasing number of our titles. It appears that once a bookstore has established a book's selling potential, and stocked the book, the store manager's decision is proven right: PublishAmerica books are competitive, high quality, reliably selling books.

Therefore, as of next month, we are making all of our books returnable!

Although many of our titles are currently stocked in stores, you may soon find even more bookstore managers inclined to order and stock your book now that there is zero risk involved for them.

Please bear with us as we must do this gradually, in order to enable our wholesaler Ingram to accurately activate the new status on roughly eleven thousand books that are currently in print, starting with the titles that are selling more than 40 copies in September (libraries and individuals who order more than 40 copies this month are receiving a 40 pct discount; phone orders only at 301 695 1707).

Also, there will be a few exceptions initially, such as full-color picture books, and for the time being this revolutionary experiment will be limited to U.S. bookstores only. We will review the results after a few months and see what, if any, adjustments must be made.

Congratulations on being part of this exciting and revolutionary adventure.


--PublishAmerica Author Support

Dear author,

You are changing an entire industry.

The last time we sent you an announcement was when our ranks had surpassed ten thousand authors. Today we can inform you that three thousand more authors have become your PublishAmerica peers. Each day, more than 130 new authors who have heard or read about your successes, want us to review their manuscripts. Because they saw what you have achieved, and they want it, too.

A force of almost 13,000 strong, you are changing an industry that was once dominated by an elite. What PublishAmerica's authors are accomplishing has never been seen in the history of publishing. To say that this has not gone unnoticed, is an understatement.

Therefore we proudly announce to you the upcoming release of How to Upset a Goliath Book Biz, subtitled PublishAmerica, the Inside Story of an Underdog with a Bite.

Written by PublishAmerica CEO Willem Meiners, with an introduction by company president Larry Clopper, the book

*gives you a unique behind-the-scenes look at PublishAmerica,
*is illustrated with photos of our office and staff,
*exposes the fading role of bookstores,
*explains why PublishAmerica's success was inevitable and unstoppable,
*shares numerous anecdotes about, and quotes from, PublishAmerica authors.

You may now order your own copy of the PublishAmerica inside story, at the special pre-release discount price of $9.95 (retail price: $24.95), here: http://www.publishamerica.com/inside_story.

But there is more! To celebrate your successes, we are offering bookstores a special discount deal that we also extend to any individual who needs books on hand: This offer covers all of our titles except full-color picture books:

*between 25-50 books: 40 pct discount
*between 51-100 books: 45 pct discount + a copy of How to Upset a Goliath Book Biz for free!
*between 101-200 books: 50 pct discount + a copy of How to Upset a Goliath Book Biz for free!
*201 or more books: 55 pct discount + a copy of How to Upset a Goliath Book Biz for free!

The offer expires June 10. Orders by phone only, at 301-695-1707.

Thank you, and have a great Summer!

PublishAmerica,
Author Support Team






 

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I think from reading some of the comments about my post that some of you are mistakenly thinking that I'm defending PA. I'm not. I'm defending the authors who have books through PA. They are not all bad nor are they all riddled with errors. Mine aren't because I have a professional editor as do many with PA.

Amanda,

You're right. Not all PA books are bad. In fact, the majority of PA books I've read, were quite good.

It's just that PA treats the books and their authors so poorly that bothers me.

When I first signed with PA, I was of the understanding that my book would be a hard-bound book in its first printing, just like I see in the local bookstores. I also understood my book would be competitively priced and have an attractive cover. None of these things were done for my book, or for most PA authors' books.

I don't think most AW members have bad feelings for PA authors; we do have bad feelings for what PA itself does to those authors. It's just plain wrong how PA treats those authors who sign with them. It's as if they don't care whether they succeed as a company or not--just as long as they can give as many writers the shaft as they possibly can.
 

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Why, Tilly? Because in order to be put into the Borders database (and you can go to www.bordersstores.com to see if any book is available through their store or for order for in-store pickup) the publisher (or the author, as JM did) has to send a copy (or is it two?) plus media kit, plus paperwork, including a marketing plan, to the main offices of Borders, I think in NYC. Buyers look over the book, decide if it will sell and make a decision whether or not to carry the book. Takes about two months - sometimes less.

If it's yes, the book is given a BINC - some kind of Borders internal number - and put in the database for all brick and mortars to order from. They may order it to stock, they may leave it as an 'order-only' book.

PA does none of this for any of their books. That's why. PA author walks into Borders store and asks if they can do a signing. Manager looks up ISBN in database and sees that the book is not in their special Borders system. No go.

Yes, Borders uses Amazon for its online store. So any book in Amazon can also be found at www.borders.com. You want the real deal, look at the link I posted above - www.bordersstores.com .
 
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DeePower said:
Oh, one other thing. PA has the reputation it has with booksellers, book reviewers and the publishing industry because of PA's own actions and policies. PublishAmerica has the reputation it has earned. The posts at AW just make some of those policies and actions visible to writers.
Just to confirm what Dee said... yes, this is true. I heard about PA (in a negative light) long before I joined AW, and probably before there was a NEPAT thread.

I think I first took notice of PA when PA authors started joining my mailing list to promote their books, often without regard to the rules and without joining in the discussion. (The guidelines ask authors to give us the courtesy of participating in the list, not just spamming it.) But I first took a really negative notice of PA when I learned that some PA authors were calling bookstores under assumed names, ordering their books, and then never showing up to buy them, just so that the bookstores would get stuck with the books. This is one of the behaviors that damaged the reputation of PA among bookstores, and this happened long before the NEPAT thread became as long as it did, and long before the Washington Post article, etc. Also, it's worth noting that this scam (there's no other word for it) was mentioned on PA's original message board, and the posts about it were never taken down. In other words, PA condoned this behavior. So it's no wonder PA has a bad reputation with booksellers. And it's too bad that it smears the authors who were caught by them.

By the way, I think that at this time, Googling PublishAmerica brought up the PA website and very few negative threads about PA.
 

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Thanks Christine:). I'd be surprised, then, if PA hasn't known for a long time that its books need a BINC and don't have one.
 

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Email from PA

Dear Author,
Every hour of every business day, bookstores nationwide order and stock a new PublishAmerica title. The store manager has decided to stock it because he believes that the book will sell. As a result, thousands of PublishAmerica books are sitting proudly on bookstore shelves all across the fruited plain.

And they do sell. They sell regardless of whether the bookstore can return unsold copies.

Another comment from PA

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]In fact, we had told the reporter that 99% of all books published never see a nationwide bookstore shelf. For bookstores to stock each newly released title out of the 150,000 books published last year alone, they would need to add 17 feet of extra shelf space, each day, Saturdays and Sundays included, and that's if they'd only order one copy per new title. That's just not happening.


:Shrug: You figure it out.

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I see on PA's main page, in the Up In Lights section, that two books have been nominated for the Library of Virginia poetry awards.

This nomination may not be as great a coup as might otherwise be thought: the author can type in a nomination himself.

http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwedo/awards/entries.htm
 

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CaoPaux said:
Out of curiosity (and so that others may understand how even experienced writers can be snookered), since you'd been commercially published, why did you consider PA a viable choice?


As I stated before I have been absent from writing for a few years and recently started again (two years ago). I went with PA originally to publish a book of poetry knowing from past experience that most commercial publishers wouldn't touch it. Once I'd finished a couple of novels based on my past genre (suspense) I sent a submission to one of my old publishers. I won't give the name here because I will quote part of his response to me.

"....although we have enjoyed working with you in the past, it has been several years since we have seen any work from you. We now feel that you are past the age that the readers at large can identify with."

He went on to say that he was very sorry to have to return my ms without reading it. Very big of him. I only wish he had put that in a letter instead of a phone conversation. I might have gotten him on age discrimination, but I don't think it's illegal to not offer a contract because of age or any other reason. And in case anyone is curious, I'm 47. I think I may have been insane for a little while and sent my novel to PA. I had been happy with the way they handled my poetry and I as I said before I didn't know a lot about them at the time and assumed that my book was treated as it was because it was poetry. I believed what was posted on their site about bookstores.

As I said before, what made me realize they weren't doing right was when they lowered the book's discount to 5%.

I think I have been away from the business too long and might as well forget it. I guess what you all say is true, if PA accepted my book, it must be bad. You win.

Good luck to all of you in your writng and publishing endeavors. I'm just too tired to try and defend every word I say on here.
 

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AmandaPA said:
I think I have been away from the business too long and might as well forget it. I guess what you all say is true, if PA accepted my book, it must be bad. You win.

Uh, nobody has stated or even implied that if PA accepts your book it must be bad. That statement isn't even related to the given facts, much less any sort of rational conclusion.

Can I ask you this: did you research PA at all--by talking to bookstores, your favorite search engine, asking other writers with books on shelves, a literary agent. Anything?
 

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Right Bonnie.

Just like the, "Bookstores manager aren't the one who order bvooks for stores, it's the hierarchy." Then said.

Bookstores managers are the one who decide.

If you could see PA speaking their doubletalk, it would look like a crappy Chinese Karate movie, where the mouths and words don't come out at the same time.
 

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AmandaPA said:
I guess what you all say is true, if PA accepted my book, it must be bad.

No one's said any such thing. PA takes good books just as fast as it takes bad books. They'll offer a contract to any book at all. They don't bother to read submissions.

Poetry is, indeed, a hard sell. Many poets self-publish. Using PA as a printer might not be a bad thing, except for two matters: as a printer they're very expensive, and they take the rights for seven years. It would be cheaper for you to take your book to a local printshop.

I don't know what to say about your experience with the publisher who said you were too old. That hasn't been my experience, and I'm way over 47. I know of authors who published their first books when they were older than that. So keep looking -- that doesn't sound like company you want to keep.
 

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AmandaPA said:
"....although we have enjoyed working with you in the past, it has been several years since we have seen any work from you. We now feel that you are past the age that the readers at large can identify with."
I second what Tilly said. That's a bizarre response.

I guess what you all say is true, if PA accepted my book, it must be bad. You win.
No one here has said that. What we've said is that being printed by PA is not an indication of quality, because PA doesn't screen for quality. Your book could be brilliant. Your book could stink. Yor book could be somewhere in between. You can't tell which it is simply by its being printed by PA. PA will take a good book just as soon as they'll take a bad one, and they'll treat them just the same.
 

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Ken Schneider said:
Right Bonnie.

Just like the, "Bookstores manager aren't the one who order bvooks for stores, it's the hierarchy." Then said.

Bookstores managers are the one who decide.

If you could see PA speaking their doubletalk, it would look like a crappy Chinese Karate movie, where the mouths and words don't come out at the same time.

You got that right Ken. If only everyone could see that.
 

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AmandaPA said:
As I stated before I have been absent from writing for a few years and recently started again (two years ago). I went with PA originally to publish a book of poetry knowing from past experience that most commercial publishers wouldn't touch it. Once I'd finished a couple of novels based on my past genre (suspense) I sent a submission to one of my old publishers. I won't give the name here because I will quote part of his response to me....
Oof. Yeah, "the readers have forgotten you" is a real threat to writers who take a break, and I can see how that'd put a person in a state of mind to think PA was a good deal for novels, too. (FWIW, there's a Career Recovery section here: http://sfwa.org/writing/) Anyway, please don't allow PA to affect your progress. There's enough networking and resources on this board alone to get you read by commercial publishers again.
 

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AmandaPA said:
And in case anyone is curious, I'm 47. I think I may have been insane for a little while and sent my novel to PA.

Join the club. I kind of smelled something funny before I signed the contract, but I chose to only pay attention to the things I wanted to see/feel, and not the warning flags.

As far as people here saying hurtful things about (some) PA authors, this has happened in the past and it probably will happen more in the future. But, that's not what this thread is about, and the other posters (and mods) here won't put up with it for too long before stepping in. This kind of behavior (usually) stems from frustration at not being able to permanently "fix" the PA situation. Combine that with the seemingly endless parade of new authors heading towards financial loss and heartache, and you often get anger. Anger that is not always directed where it should be.

Stick around and help us figure this thing out, okay?
 

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Nexusman said:
Looks like PA's updated its splash page again. Seems they like hyphens and italics now instead of unnecessary commas.
-Nick

And on that page, they mention two PA books that were nominated for 2006 Library of Virginia Literary Awards. ANYONE can nominate a book by a Virginia author! My self-pubbed book was nominated in 2001 and I (the publisher) sent in the 4 copies. In 2004, my POD book was nominated, and my POD publisher sent in the four copies. Of course I didn't win, but I got a really nice poster each year with all the names of the nominees.

Does anyone REALLY think PA sent the 4 copies required for the two authors who VA Book Award info they have posted? Raise your hands if you think the authors sent the copies themselves.

OK (counting hands here). . . one . . . six . . . twenty . . . two hundred fourteen. . .uh, oh—can't see all those hands in the back. . . .

(You can see a list of finalists and winners from past years here: http://www.lva.lib.va.us/whatwedo/awards/winners.htm )
 

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AmandaPA said:
In two years, PA has sent me exactly 2 emails giving me the opportunity to buy my own books at an increased discount. TWO
You may want to update the e-mail address they have for you.
Since February of 2004 (2 years), I've received a total of 16 e-mails from their "marketing department" (only the mass mailings).
Of these, 9 were attempting to sell me something.
7 were offers to buy my own book for a discount (1 was in conjunction with the release of the PA-tell-all).
2 were offers for me to pay an exorbinant amount of money to travel to Key West (which was cancelled for weather in the end...wonder if everyone got their money back?)
 
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