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Carrie Ann Eggert

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I'm really curious...how do magazines deal with the issue of water-guns? Are they strongly opposed because they advocate violence or do they see them as just another toy?

Should one query on any given magazine's stance before sending a story or an article involving waterguns?(I know this is a silly question isn't it?)

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I once got an elastic band gun free with the Beano, back in 1978. It was great!
 

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But wasn't that back in the days when Dennis the Menace was beaten senseless by his dad at the end of every strip?
 

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Yeah, now he has to have heated debates with Walter and discuss their different perspectives in respect to school work and social values. I think it's lost its edge.
 

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Highlights might shun it. I'm not sure. They tend to avoid anything remotely related to violence. They don't even like sibling fights or disrespectful language, from what I've heard.
 

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Thanks

for your replies.

I've thought things through and decided to send what I've done on waterguns out anyway.

Seems no one has any real hardcore opinions on it in here so the issue must not be a hot one right now.

Whether that's good or bad I guess I'll find out soon when the rejections start flowing through the door. :)

Thanks again.

Carrie:)
 

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I think it depends on whether the water gun is an integral part of the story of if it is just an added bit of color - kind of like strong language in YAs or sex scenes in adult books. The context matters.
 

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Carrie Ann Eggert said:
I'm really curious...how do magazines deal with the issue of water-guns? Are they strongly opposed because they advocate violence or do they see them as just another toy?

Should one query on any given magazine's stance before sending a story or an article involving waterguns?(I know this is a silly question isn't it?)

Thanks for reading.

Carrie:)

Does it have to be a water "gun"? My sister bought her kids water "guns" that were shaped like fish. When you pulled the trigger, the fish spit at you.

On second thought, spitting fishes might be as offensive as guns.
 

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Well...see the thing is I believe a water gun is just a water gun. Others think it leads to accepting violence. Still others use it as a recreational tool to unwind after a long hard day.

I read a ton of stuff online about waterguns to get a feel and the truth is there is no middle line. Everyone has an opinion on them. So I guess I'm on the side that advocates their use as long as it is all in good fun.

This does not mean that I am for real guns or violence. In fact I don't have one and probably will never have one in my home.

Maybe my thoughts on the subject are archaic...after all I grew up in the early eighties when it was okay to blast your mom in the butt with a cold burst of water from a gun shaped like an alien. But as our society has begun to be increasingly violent and torn from the haves and have nots, the angry and the lost, and the ones who weren't taught that guns and war kill, people have decided they need to put their foot down.

Unfortunately they are putting their foot down in all the wrong places. Being a child shouldn't be as complicated as we make it for them. When I was a little girl I was more concerned about getting nuked by communists than getting shot by a stray bullet in my backyard. Now we have to worry because society has literally gone mad.

Or maybe it's just me...maybe I'm the only insane one and everyone else is normal in worrying about being on the wrong side of a gun...despite the fact it only holds cold water.

Carrie:)

ps...sorry if I seemed to go off on a tangent...I just wanted to show the real reason behind my original question...and why I seem so torn.
The only one I can seemingly pitch to would be a water gun-friendly magazine and I don't think there are too many of these...thanks for all who have posted.
 

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My sister wouldn't allow toy guns in her house. We caught her son (about 7 at the time) and his friend using the plastic spoons from his sister's kitchen set to shoot each other.

Go figure.
 

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My brother and I used to chew toast into the shapes of Walther PPKs. The trigger guard was tricky, lemme tell you.
 

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Consider other uses for guns: How about for tranquilizer darts to disable injured animals and dangerous individuals? After all, not every use is bad. I think the intent should be taken into consideration. Some uses should be condemned, but that doesn't mean the basic instrument is evil. Otherwise, just following that logic even poisons would have to be condemned despite the fact that many medicines contain poisons meant to deal with infectious diseases. Ropes would have to be prohibited because they could be used to strangle or hang someone. The list would go on and on.

It's more important to teach right and wrong uses.
 

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HIGHLIGHTS would NOT buy a water gun story, but most other magazines would be okay with it -- though, I can't remember the last time I saw waterguns in a magazine. I think they shied away from them for a while when SUPER SOAKERS came out, because there were newspaper reports of folks going ballistic when being hit by super soaker water. It could be magazines haven't come back from that...I've seen stories where folks got wet from one thing or another but not squirt guns. Could be that it's still a problem.

Hmmm...I might ask around.

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DaveKuzminski said:
Consider other uses for guns: How about for tranquilizer darts to disable injured animals and dangerous individuals? After all, not every use is bad. I think the intent should be taken into consideration. Some uses should be condemned, but that doesn't mean the basic instrument is evil. Otherwise, just following that logic even poisons would have to be condemned despite the fact that many medicines contain poisons meant to deal with infectious diseases. Ropes would have to be prohibited because they could be used to strangle or hang someone. The list would go on and on.

It's more important to teach right and wrong uses.

Of course I agree with you. But the parent's question is:

Is it Ok to let our kids think guns are toys?

Since I have a daughter who is the definition of a "girly-girl", it was never an issue in my house.
 

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Write a story that reflects your own values and don't agonize.

In the Caribbean water guns are essential for survival - that is, if you want to eat breakfast outside without having it stolen by the banana tits and other assorted birds who will gather. At the hotel we stayed at there were water pistols on every table on the verandah. One kid was so excited by the water gun that he was racing around blasting every bird in sight. From his parents reaction I gathered that he was not allowed such a toy at home.

Supressing and withholding things/images often gives them more power.
 

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My sister and I got a 'camera' each (for 'taking photos') which would squirt the person you photographed. LOL

Yes, I am weary of guns as toys, and we never had these, no, I would not buy them form my kids. I would allow 'water guns' if they looked 'extraterrestrial' enough and weren't much abused and only on sunny days
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As for magazines, I don't have a clue. If it's only a minor part of your story I wouldn't be concerened. If the story is about water-gun fun, well, keep us informed
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Just like with other controversial things, you can find markets for almost any side of an issue. I suppose there are some magazines that wouldn't touch squirt guns with a ten foot pole. On the other hand, I've seen both short stories and non-fiction articles in Boy's Life that mentioned real guns.