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aruna

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Another question.
As some of you know, my script is based on the Jonestown mass suicide/murder.

I need to get in some of Jones's backstory - he started out as a sincere pastor, full of idealism, reaching out to black people at a time when few people did. His was one of the very first integrated churches in the US.
I need to get this in without cluttering the script.

At the moment, I handle it by having a relative of a Jonestown member telling Congressman Ryan about Jones's beginnings. This is boring, and makes for long chunks of dialogue.

So my idea is this: have this relative (Joe) keep his story about Jones, but as he speaks in VO, have a montage of those early days, so that we see how the younger Jim Jones had integrated churches, helped blacks, visited the sick etc.
Is that a good idea? Any other suggestions?

By the way, I finished the first draft this morning! great feeling! And it woreked out at exactly 119 pages, without my having to manipulate or cut anything ( I tend to write too long rather than short). In fact, I had planned a few extra scenes, an epilogue sort of, which would have delivered a last minute twist and an unhappy ending. But when I got to page 119 this morning I realised it was perfect as it was, and dropped the twist.

I'll keep that for the novel of the same name!
Meanwhile, it's rewriting time....
 
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Congrats on finishing!

When does your protag learn about Jones? Could we the audience learn about him at the same time instead of hearing it from a third party we don't know?

She's a journalist. Could she get access to a film projector and watch amateur 8mm film records of Jones's earlier work?

Shrug, random thoughts.

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dpaterso said:
Congrats on finishing!

When does your protag learn about Jones? Could we the audience learn about him at the same time instead of hearing it from a third party we don't know?

She's a journalist. Could she get access to a film projector and watch amateur 8mm film records of Jones's earlier work?

Shrug, random thoughts.

Guess I should have given more info! Introducng Ryan at this stage is actually a set up - Ryan plays a pivotal role in the script, as he's the one who investigates Jones and visits Jonestown, and then gets gunned down by Jones, setting off the whole genocide thing. So he needs to be introduced early, and this is the way I did it. Joe, too is not there by accident: we meet his wife Gladys later, and shes the one who pulls the trigger on Jones...

The heroine doesnt have access to anything, she lives in the rainforest! Not even a telephone. But that idea with the films is neverthelessuseful - I coul dhave Ryan sending the tapes to the US Embassy attache who is the heroine's love interest, and have him show them to her, later on in the movie...

I just wonder if that's plausible... he works at the US Embassy, she's a friend/romantic interest on the case - would he be allowed to show her tapes?

Thanks a lot for the feedback.
 

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Have you seen The Aviator.

That first expositional scene with Howard Hughes and his mother was brilliant.

It told us everything we practically needed to knows about the man's background.

Just a thought, but what if you considered a similar scene/montage as an opening sequence. Jones as an innocent child being told something that defines him for the future - and then to a brief montage of how he acted upon this advice before he went off the rails, which I assume is your main story.

You wouldn't necessarily clutter up the script by utilisng this technique.

Just a thought, and could probably be done in half a page, one max.
 

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Yeah

I think a lot of flashbacks and VO to the "long long ago during the before time" kind of can be a put off unless it is done just perfectly by a seasoned screenwriter. I liked your first idea better. It seems simpler and more artistic to sprinkle clues to ones back story along the story. NOW - Here are two reasons I'm wrong: "RAY"/brilliantly done with some extras and an allready energized fan base...... and "The History of Violence" artistically done as I stated above but, sunk at the box office and gained very little following.
 

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Wow that sounds like a veyr interesting concept, aruna. And 'gratz on finishing your first draft. I don't really have much to contribute with this post, but simply wanted to stand up for A History of Violence, which I personally loved and thought was one of the better films of 2005.
 

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Aldenard said:
Wow that sounds like a veyr interesting concept, aruna. And 'gratz on finishing your first draft. I don't really have much to contribute with this post, but simply wanted to stand up for A History of Violence, which I personally loved and thought was one of the better films of 2005.

By pure coincidence, I was looking at the "History of Violence" website yesterday and thought it looked really interesting; I'll certainly try to watch it. Unfortnately, where I live only very few movies come to the big screen so we have to wait for the video. I haven't even seen Ray yet.
I am now up to my neck in rewrite! It's a wonderful feeling to shift one scene somewhere else and know it makes FAR more sense this way.
 

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Hi Aruna,

I'm not a very knowledgable person but I did want to mention to you that at some point in my life, I did see a documentary regarding Jim Jones past and his "good" beginnings. However, if I'm not mistaken, he did have a few "things in the fire" that maybe were morally questionable at the onset. This documentary was done very well, I think, and could possible give you what you are looking for. Unfortunately, I can only guess that in was on PBS.

Don't know if that helps any. I'm 53 and I can remember a little of what was going down in the media when that whole thing transpired.

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aruna said:
... to the US Embassy attache who is the heroine's love interest, and have him show them to her, later on in the movie...

I just wonder if that's plausible... he works at the US Embassy, she's a friend/romantic interest on the case - would he be allowed to show her tapes....

Yes, he/they could show her tapes or anything they have, if they see fit. But this you might want to consider; half, or more, of the people at an embassy (the ones who don't have lace on their underwear) report directly to a station chief (intelligence service) who often have innocent-sounding official titles to mask their real occupation.

In the case of Jones, for a different spin you might want to look into his (probated) will and find out exactly how much that idiot was worth, which might well explain why there was so much political interest in him at the time. However, it'll probably require a FOIA suit for you to take a look at it because it was sealed by the court.
 
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