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icerose

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Hi Everyone,
Sorry I've been off board for ages, had a baby and such.

Everyone says the best way to get your book placed with a publisher is to get an agent, well I have. Two of them. Both retired for different reasons within a couple of months of accepting my work.

Now new agents are telling me my work sounds intriguing but isn't right for them.

I am sick and tired of quering everyone under the sun. I was so excited when I signed with the first agent, then she retired, and was excited when I signed with a second, and she retired too!

All the publishers say "We do not accept unsolicited manuscripts, please get an agent."

I don't know what to do anymore. I've gone through two of them, still no results. I'm at my wits end, I don't know if I can query any more.

Any advice???

Further more I am terrible at selling my own stories and finding the points that would grab an agents interest, all I'm good at is talking about it, but then I tend to ramble.

ARGH so frustrating! I thought for sure that once I got an agent I would have a chance.

So how do you not get frustrated and not give up when these kinds of things happen?

Thanks for listening,

Sara Price
 

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icerose said:
Hi Everyone,
Sorry I've been off board for ages, had a baby and such.

Congratulations! boy? girl? name?

Everyone says the best way to get your book placed with a publisher is to get an agent, well I have. Two of them. Both retired for different reasons within a couple of months of accepting my work.

Ouch. My condolences. That really bites.

Now new agents are telling me my work sounds intriguing but isn't right for them.

They are not the only agents in the universe. At least they say it's intriguing. Better that than a form rejection, eh?

I am sick and tired of quering everyone under the sun.

Of course you are. It's a very tedious process.

I was so excited when I signed with the first agent, then she retired, and was excited when I signed with a second, and she retired too!

then you have an enormously frustrating coincidence on top of that. Lordy, what are the chances of that happening?

All the publishers say "We do not accept unsolicited manuscripts, please get an agent."

Maybe because these are the publishers worth landing a contract with? but I'm sure it still feels like they keep erecting a steel wall in front of you...totally impenetrable.

I don't know what to do anymore. I've gone through two of them, still no results. I'm at my wits end, I don't know if I can query any more.

Yes, you can, and you must, unless you're implying that you might be considering giving up on writing-for-publication??

Any advice???

Take a break. Not many people are very productive when highly frustrated. Engage in other activities or hobbies. Read. Enjoy your baby. Indulge yourself. Bake some bread (I use a bread machine, myself ;) ). Obviously, you know what to do because you signed with TWO agents! So the situation may be more about managing the stress of your situation vs. doing anything wildly different.

Further more I am terrible at selling my own stories and finding the points that would grab an agents interest, all I'm good at is talking about it, but then I tend to ramble.

Suggestion: Use your break time to improve those skills. Learn what's worked for others. Attend a writers conference or become more active in the craft part of queries with an online group. Above all, challenge yourself to THINK differently about what you cannot do. If you're good at talking about it, role-play with a tape recorder or with a friend and write down the parts that seem to be most effective.

ARGH so frustrating! I thought for sure that once I got an agent I would have a chance.

Naturally. But now you know to never let down your guard, and maybe that will give you an edge next time.

So how do you not get frustrated and not give up when these kinds of things happen?

I don't think it's healthy to try and NOT become frustrated. It's natural to want to give up. How you manage these feelings can make all the difference in the outcome. Most everyone experiences some frustration associated with the creative process as well as the business side of writing. The difference is how each person manages the frustration. You took a strong first step by voicing it. You are obviously willing to look at things differently (otherwise this post wouldn't have existed and you would have given up, and we would be none the wiser). You have many different choices here. This might be a good time to re-prioritize or reflect on your personal writing goals, as corny as that may sound.

Again, taking a break will provide some objectivity as well as allow for more agents to pop up in the field. Nourish yourself so you can reactivate your well of creativity.

Thanks for listening,


Sara Price

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Clara

Clara -

I have been reading some of your posts... I just have to say, you are so nice! You're very helpful too.

(sorry this really had nothing to do with this thread)

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writermom said:
Clara -

I have been reading some of your posts... I just have to say, you are so nice! You're very helpful too.

(sorry this really had nothing to do with this thread)

WriterMom


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Here's what you do. Stomp your feet, yell a lot. Curse agents, editors, publishing houses, and the whole stupid business. Find a new hobby to focus all your energy on. Swear you'll never get sucked into the frustrating and humiliating world of queries and agents and publishing ever again.

Don't do it or say any of it in front of other people. Do it in private. This will save you the embarrassment of having to eat your words later on when you get over this most recent hump and start trying again. And you will. Because that's how we stupid, stubborn writers are.

Sorry it happened. Good luck.

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Hi, Icerose:

I think most writers in this Forum have been in your shoes. Look, the only writers who get published are the persistent ones. That's the whole key -- persistence. Sure, you must write well, and that takes practice, practice, practice. But getting published means putting in the drudge time, sending out the queries, the partials, the manuscripts. It means getting dumped on and abused and treated like dirt.

It's easy to quit. But you shouldn't quit if you love writing. Go online and to the library. Find the agents who handle your genre. Query three per day. That's not too hard. Then get back to your WIP. Two hours a day. Do a little revision on your completed novel, too. There's always room for improvement, right? Eventually, someone's going to bite on your queries.

By the way, Clara is always generous with her time and advice. And the advice is always good. Listen to her.
 
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Congrats on the new baby! It's been a while, but I think I remember that time in my life as pure insanity--both on an emotional and a physical level. Kudos to you for even *thinking* about writing.

Keep the faith--you've had two agents interested enough in your work to offer representation. If you had any relationship with either of them, can you contact them to see if they have suggestions on agents to query? Or would either of them be willing to make an introduction for you?

Best of luck and keep at it.

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Wow, sorry it took me so long to get back. I haven't had my computer since I posted.

Clara,

I had a girl, her name is Annabell Mae.
Thanks for all the advice. It has been a crazy ride. I am still looking for agents. I did take a break and I am back at writing again. Best I can do is send out queries and ignore the ticking clock and slipping calendar pages.

Beth,

It didn't get quite that bad, but I sure felt like quitting. (Trying to publish at any rate, but I don't think I could ever stop writing.)
The humps are sometimes hard to scale, but at least they are possible. :)

jerewrites,
Yeah, I think so too. It just gets so frustrating because they tell you, get an agent, get an agent, and when that doesn't work, twice, then its like, What now?

I have been writing and revising, yes it can always use more work. I recently became very excited over my work again because I have a hairbrained idea for several of my fantasy series and turning them into a conglomerate with 9 realms all interconnected and over 40 books to the series.
Crazy? Yes, but it got me happy about writing again. :)

ljc,
Thanks, she's growing fast. If I didn't write I wouldn't have my sanity.
Both agents are out of touch one due to busy schedule and the other due to health. She's moved to Jamaica and lives without phones or internet, hope she has much happiness in her life.

Thanks for the suggestion. I have two agents reading my work right now, I can only hope one of them takes me on.

Thanks everyone again,
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Hi, icerose, it's good to see you again. Congratulations on the baby.


I don't know what to say about your situation, although one of the poster's suggestions did catch my eye. Throw a fit, in private, and cuss out every agent you've ever worked with, in private....then get back to trying to publish. Even though you might not think it'll do any good to cuss out everyone in private, it should make you feel a lot better and enable you to keep on keeping on.


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Congratulations on the baby Icerose.

I can only try to imagine your frustration...

Why not try something controversial? Maybe find the most catching part of one of your stories. Read it, record it in a sound file. (or with a video camera).Get it burned on a cd, and make a fancy "cover" for the cd. In the cover you also put a new quary letter.

I imagine that most publisher/agenst get to much post. Why not try make "your" quary stand out from the rest? :)

Just an ide i came up with, no idea if it will work... hehe.. I just got out of bed, so my brain havent woke up yet.. *s*


Best of luck on your journey to the bookshelfs.
 
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Work on your query letter - examine why it didn't excite agents. Rewrite and resubmit.

Also (this has been known to work) Publishers do not accept unsolicited MSS. BUT they do read their mail. Send that query letter out to publishers as well as agents. If they don't bite, they don't bite, but if they do...
 

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don't give up, even if it means working on a different project. My last agent just flat out didn't sell my book. That book is stewing as a new WIP completed, and now I'm looking for the next agent. As I search, a new book is in the works. Continuously working, and never giving up, is the way to be, and then suddenly, it happens, and you work more hours than you ever have before with a giant grin on your face. Keep the faith.
 

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Thanks Sean,
I am feeling much better now. I did not cuss anyone out, perhaps next time ;) Kind of hard to do with a four month old attached to my hip.

Noob or S whatever you go by :),
I don't have many controversial things in the romance I was quering and most agents ask for you to not send disks at any time or any reason due to the fact many nasty people like to play with viruses. I'm afraid that sort of query would wind up in the garbage, and beyond that they deal in the written word not the spoken one so it would be like handing a mason a stack of floor boards and telling him to get to work when he only deals in tile, stone, and brick.
That lies the problem, they do get too many things to read and you do need to get your work to jump out at them but through your words. That also is where my problem lies, see story below. :)

Mike,
That is part of my problem. When I am writing to try and impress someone, I clam up and trip over my own words. I do stupid mistakes, prime example. The agents name was Ethan Ellenburg, and I called him Ellen Ethanburg. I read that query a hundred times before clicking send and only realized what I had done the moment after I had sent it. Needless to say I never heard back from him.
Proud moment right there.

Lightshadow,
Thanks, I always have something going. I've solidified my plans for a masive fantasy series, I have organically outlined two other books and have written another fifty on a current WIP. I have just finished another script and rewriten the first one I had done which gives me three scripts. I have 26 pages on a forth. I am also working on editing my two finished novels, so yeah. Having something going isn't a problem here. :)

I will keep at it, just the process to getting published and produced is exhaustive. Of course if it wasn't the market would be flooded with very bad pieces of work and only a few good ones.

Sara
 

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Here's my opinion: If you are good enough to get TWO agents, you obviously have talent. Don't give up. If it is too overwhelming now, spend a little time relaxing with your baby. Perhaps you could start submitting again after a month or two. Have a trusted friend--either a writer or a reader with impeccable taste--take a look at your manuscript and suggest selling points.

Congratulations on the baby!

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Hey, Icerose. Do you still have the ability to contact those agents who retired? Can you ask them (or at least the last one) for suggestions for agents that would be interested in the same things they were interested in? Or even to send your work as a referral to them? I don't know if that's considered good etiquette or not, but it might not hurt to try.
 

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Hi Jackie,
Thanks for the advice, problem there is they don't have time. Those who do, just smile and say, "Oh this is great, when do I get to read the next one?" So I'm at a loss there.

Sage,
I have no way of contacting my second agent, she moved away to a rather beautiful estate in Jamaica but refused to get phone, internet, or any other way of contact.

The first is very busy and sends me along with a , "Go get em kid." type of thing. Sweet but alas, not as helpful as I would hope for.

Here is a picture of me and my family including the baby.
http://ryze.com/go/icerose

Sara
 
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