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pianoman5

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Is this the great enabler that finally makes e-books a practical proposition?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/01/08/1136655086801.html

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The price point may be a little high at this stage, but it will no doubt come down in due course.

Any gadget freaks out there tempted to buy one?
 

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pianoman5 said:
The price point may be a little high at this stage, but it will no doubt come down in due course.

Any gadget freaks out there tempted to buy one?
I'm happy with my eBookwise for now. It's much cheaper. :D The screen size is terrific. It's about the size of a paperback, and the text is larger than on paperbacks -- that alone is enough to make me love it. (Maybe it comes with turning 40? ;) ) The design is also terrific; I know someone who got one because with her wrist problems, it's easier to use the eBookwise than to read most print books.

Oh, and there's a backlight, which is adjustable. And adjustable contrast. You can also add bookmarks by tapping the screen. You can even draw or write comments on the screen and save them. I have actually used the eBookwise to read over drafts of my own novels and make comments, circle text that sucked, etc. :)

However, I wouldn't read it in the bathtub. (The manual recommends against doing that.) Then again, I wouldn't read most of my hardbacks or trade paperbacks in the bathtub, either. They cost too much. :)
 
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Paperbacks and water aren't that friendly either :)

Which hasn't stopped me from reading in the shower or bath. If it is an excellent book, I'll wrap it inside plastic to read in the shower or just dry my hands to read it in the tub.

I'd be nervous about doing the same with an electronic gadget, though. And it's kind of small, I'd rather have a larger screen.
 

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I'll read trach novels or old books that I paid a quarter for in the bath. One I shelled out $8 or $15 or more for, no, I read that on the couch, at lunch, in bed, on the bus, but not in the bath. I read magazines a lot in the bath.

as for the gadget...I'll take my books, thanks.
 

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Once, when I was a weary new mother with a colicky baby who seemed to NEVER sleep, my husband took over child care and shooed me into a steaming hot bubble bath.

I, of course, took a paperback novel in with me. As I slowly melted into the luxury of the bath, and the richness of the solitude, I felt myself drift off....

....and I woke, God only knows how much later, sitting in a few inches of tepid water, with the book opened up and perched on my head. I suppose I put it there as I fell asleep.

Now how could I do that with that stupid electronic thing?

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I guess I wasn't too serious about the bath thing. After all, there are other areas of a bathroom far more suitable for extended reading sessions.

The interesting thing about this gizmo, I thought, was the fact that the reading surface is apparently similar to paper, unlike other devices of this type. If it provides a comfortable and practical reading experience, with the added benefit of being able to store hundreds of full texts in the space and weight of a paperback, that sounds like a step forward to me. The way the memory-density/price equation is moving these days, it will soon be practicable to be carrying the equivalent of a full-text-indexed library in your pocket.

It won't have the feel of a book, but I daresay one could learn to live with that. It won't have the smell of a book. But then, if in the Land of the Free you're prepared to accept that cheese in a spray can is actually food, it can only be a matter of time before some enterprising company produces that authentic new-book smell in a convenient spray, for use with such devices and also for revivifying older purchases.

As artifacts, it's true that there's no romance about these things at all, especially when compared to well-filled cedar bookcases in a study, complete with the comfy armchair and crackling fire of fond imagining. Perhaps some of us will find it impossible to ever get beyond that ideal.

But our children won't. My kids have their IPOD-type thingies with thousands of songs on them, which will retain their quality (ugh!$#) for all time, and in the face of those I find it hard to get sentimental about my vinyl records, big scratchy, crackle-pop things that they are. I suspect that in a generation or so, the book will be regarded as similarly old-hat - charming in its way, but inferior and inconvenient compared to the alternatives.
 

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AnneMarble. Can you transfer books from one of these gadgets to another? I'm wondering about piracy. How do you download? Otherwise, it sounds a heck of a lot better than reading on a computer screen.
 

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Adam Mac said:
AnneMarble. Can you transfer books from one of these gadgets to another? I'm wondering about piracy. How do you download? Otherwise, it sounds a heck of a lot better than reading on a computer screen.
I think the secure titles (in other words, most of the major commercial titles) can only be downloaded to your specific reader. Also, you don't download the file in the typical way. The file is hosted on the site you bought it from, on an online bookshelf, and you download it to the device by connecting the device by USB (or via phone line0 and then connecting to the on-line bookshelf.

The independent e-book publishers online generally sell in the "nonsecure" (unencrypted) file formats. This can actually be easier for the reader because you can download it directly to your hard drive, and the files are smaller. However, the formatting from some of these companies sometimes sucketh verily. Also, SF/fantasy publisher Baen Books makes the electronic copies of their books available in unencrypted formats, including the eBookwise (Rocket) format. They've done really really well, and one reason for their success (besides the huge fan base :) ) is probably the fact that they use the unencrypted formats.

Also, you can convert RTF files, TXT files (for example, classics from Project Gutenberg), HTML, and some other formats into the eBookwise format.
 

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The file is hosted on the site you bought it from, on an online bookshelf, and you download it to the device by connecting the device by USB (or via phone line0 and then connecting to the on-line bookshelf.

If I shell out money for a product, I like to have actual proof of that purchase, like a CD or a book. It's one of the reasons I haven't purchased downloadable music files (and I'm the generation running around with iPods stuck in our ears) ... with click of the 'delete' button and your purchase is down the drain, much like the money you spent on it.

This isn't a problem for everyone, but I don't usually get rid of books after I read them. This gadget doesn't sound like my cup of tea, although I am intrigued by this "paper" material. I just wouldn't ever buy one.
 

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katiemac said:
If I shell out money for a product, I like to have actual proof of that purchase, like a CD or a book. It's one of the reasons I haven't purchased downloadable music files (and I'm the generation running around with iPods stuck in our ears) ... with click of the 'delete' button and your purchase is down the drain, much like the money you spent on it.
Most of the e-book formats do let you keep copies on your hard drive, on disks, etc. I think the only reason they designed the eBookwise to work that way for secure titles is because they were aiming at customers who weren't used to computers, even those who didn't have computers and thus had no way to store their copies. Even after you have read the book, you can downlod it again through the on-line bookshelf. Also, the unencrypted titles are always stored on your computer. (You use software to move it to the reader.)

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This isn't a problem for everyone, but I don't usually get rid of books after I read them.
I bought most of my e-books through Fictionwise.com (the site that runs eBookwise). They have an on-line bookshelf where I can download the books I bought there in the past. While I have copies of everything, I feel safer when books are stored on the company's bookshelf because even when I get a new computer and forget where I put a file, I can always find them in the on-line bookshelf.
 

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I can't imagine creating a bath-proof version is beyond the means of man. After all, if the interface is wholly touch-screen, then you can easily design a sealed unit, where all the sensitive bits are safe from water seepage. I guess, when that's cracked, these things might take off.

As a reader I really like the idea. Convenient. Plus, having so many books that you can hop between at the tap of a finger, each one bookmarked for you. I really like the idea of making notes, and I guess these gadgets have some search-compare functionality so you can cross reference the various books.

As a writer, I'm very, very afraid. Once our medium becomes predominantly digital, we become exposed to piracy. And bear in mind, our medium being entirely text, means the file sizes are very small. A book for example (in word format) would be about 1/6 the size of your average 3-4 minute mp3. And look at the music biz already....whilst the whole mp3 culture has allowed startup bands a chance to peddle their wares alongside established artists, it has also resulted in many 'middle level' musicians, who derived an ongoing income from CD sales, losing money. The end result....millions of 'artists' all making their own (not that great) music and selling a few hundred downloads to their mates and mums. Whilst the talented ones, the artists that used to sell CDs, find that their music no longer brings in the bacon, and they have to go and get a proper job.

I'm deeply skeptical that the book biz can protect itself from the profit-haemorraging that the music biz has experienced in recent years.
 
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