sentence segues; structure question

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I wish I had noticed this before. After re-reading what I thought was the final, final draft of a project, I noticed that I occasionally had problems with the way sentences segued into each other within certain paragraphs. Each sentence belonged within the paragraph, just a couple sentences seemed out of place, like they needed to be moved within the paragraph to make the paragraph more coherent, or more easily followed. By correcting these misplaced sentences I also had to alter them slightly because I sometimes ended up with repetition of certain words (mostly pronouns or names) in back-to-back sentences due to moving them around.

Because I'm the author I knew what needed to be said within the paragraph, but I didn't always present it in the most logical or dramatic way. The paragraphs in question were read over literally dozens of times, but I didn't pick up on the problem until I spotted one particular occurence and then started looking for more such occurences. It didn't happen often, but it was frequent enough to give me more headaches and force me to revise yet again.

I also looked at another story I finished early last year that I failed to sell and noticed the same problem. Incidentally, the occurences are most common for me in the first two chapters. Hardly ever saw it in the remainder of either piece.

Anybody else suffer this same writing ailment? When do you notice it--early on, or after you've incessantly edited for months? Am I the only dyslexic freak here? Do you pro writers eventually just grow out of this habit and form your sentences in perfect sequence from the get-go?

This makes the editing process even more daunting. After sweating such trivialities as character depth, rhythm, word choice, plotline, continuity, and a host of other dramatic and grammatic challenges, I now have to study sentence-by-sentence to make sure the idea for each paragraph is presented correctly, and not just in a manner that makes sense to me since I know what I intended to mean in each paragraph.
 
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Oh, this has happened to me. I have old manuscripts that I swear I've edited at least four times each that still need huge revisions because each time I think I'm done, I learn something new about my writing. And it's like you said, it's a reoccuring problem in my writing, something big enough I have to comb the entire MS again to search for the mistakes. And this happens to me EVERY TIME! I guess it is good that I'm always learning to improve my writing, but ugh, what a pain to edit an MS over and over, catching different types of mistakes each time, always thinking, ah, this is my final draft. Then a week or two later, you've caught another problem and are at it again. So fun.

I'm not a pro, so I don't know how they handle this, but I know I will edit a MS to death. Until it is out of my hands, I'll keep trying to make it better, even if I thought I was done with it five revisions ago. I'm sure people like me are supposed to be seeking a therapist for professional help, but I don't have time, I'm burried in all the rewrites I need to do on my MSs.
 

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storygirl said:
Oh, this has happened to me. I have old manuscripts that I swear I've edited at least four times each that still need huge revisions

Don't we all... but actually, I was getting at this one particular problem. I edited the project in question ad nauseum, then put it aside, then read it fresh, then revised again. I put it aside for what must have been the fourth time, and only because the holidays snuck up on me and I figured the gatekeepers were on their month-long vacations. When I pulled it out to send in the mail, I gave the opening another last go-through. That's when I noticed the segue snafu.
 

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gp, I wonder if you'd be willing to post a before-and-after example of one of those paragraphs? Not only so that we would know better what you're talking about, but so newbies like me might learn something.

PLEASE do not feel compelled to comply with this! I know there are many good reasons folks do not want to post their work, and I respect every one of them. I just wanted you to know that I, for one, appreciate such technique lessons, in case you felt hesitant to post directly from your work.

No big deal either way, ok?

SusanR
 

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gp101 said:
Don't we all... but actually, I was getting at this one particular problem. I edited the project in question ad nauseum, then put it aside, then read it fresh, then revised again. I put it aside for what must have been the fourth time, and only because the holidays snuck up on me and I figured the gatekeepers were on their month-long vacations. When I pulled it out to send in the mail, I gave the opening another last go-through. That's when I noticed the segue snafu.
No, I really mean it, this has happened to me more than once. I thought I was done, printed out a fresh copy to send off and started skimming the pages just for fun, then I notice something here, hmm, not good. A few pages later, same mistake. Flip, flip, flip through more pages, there it is again. NOOOOOOOO!

I had this happen on a partial an agent requested. I was printing it out to send it to her when I noticed a reoccuring mistake. Talk about frustration.
 

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Sentences

It isn't a huge problem, but this happens to me with some regularity. It depends on the paragraph, of course, but it's something I watch for. I usually catch such mistakes as I make them, but not always.

If I'm doing my job properly, making sure every sentence follows the last in a logical fashion, it doesn't happen nearly as often, but it's definitely something I watch for when editing the final draft.
 

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I always notice this after it is printed out, even when I have caught some before. Something about the "perfect" draft always exposes my lapses of attention. Reading aloud or thinking about others trying to visualize sequence helps me to put things in better order, but never succeed in getting me to catch all of them.
 

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Nothing is ever "PERFECT"... do you best, and send it out. When you find yourself tweaking words or sentence bits, you're done. Don't obsess over it. I'm telling you -- I still found errors and "things I could have done better" now that my book has been printed (I just told my publisher about a typo I found).

Obviously, if it's something that must be fixed, fix it. But there comes a time when you must say, this is it. Done.

Send it out.
 
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