How confident are you when submitting?

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How confident do you feel when you send stories out? Do you feel like your work fits what they are looking for or do you think it is a bit of a long shot? How do you think your confidence affects your writing?

I am hungry to be published and because of that I keep producing stories in a timely manner, but I can't say I am confident as I send them out.
 

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I nearly always write a story before I know where I'm going to send it, so it really doesn't affect my writing very much. This, however, sometimes makes it harder to find a good market. I've only once or twice written something with a specific market in mind, and in one case I really like the result. However, the market folded shortly after I submitted, and I haven't found a home for it yet.

In general I don't send it out unless I'm reasonably sure it's a good fit. I'm more often disappointed that they didn't take what I thought was a good fit than I am "holy crap, I can't believe they took it!"
 

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I do try to fit the market as close as possible when submitting and having confidence in that, but it's also fun wondering if the quality of a story could fit into an unusual place.

That's why I think it's important to be passionate about the writing itself, because the doubt and the waiting is most definitely NOT the fun part.
 
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I nearly always write a story before I know where I'm going to send it, so it really doesn't affect my writing very much. This, however, sometimes makes it harder to find a good market. I've only once or twice written something with a specific market in mind, and in one case I really like the result. However, the market folded shortly after I submitted, and I haven't found a home for it yet.

In general I don't send it out unless I'm reasonably sure it's a good fit. I'm more often disappointed that they didn't take what I thought was a good fit than I am "holy crap, I can't believe they took it!"

This.

I don't just send whatever I have, I read other things that the market has, and see if what I have is a good fit. If I'm not confident that it is, or feel it's too much of a reach, I find a different place to send it.

If I don't have confidence in a piece, it doesn't get sent out. It gets "trunked", and/or worked on for longer.
 

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I don't think about it.
I'm not a good judge of my own work.
 

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I don't even think about it. Confidence does not mean a magazine will buy a story, and lack of confidence doesn't mean a magazine won't buy a story. I just write them and submit them. What happens after I submit a story is out of my control.

But my sell percentage is pretty high, and I believe this is because I read the magazines I submit to, know what they've previously published, know what they haven't published, and more important, usually get a good idea of what they haven't published that they wish someone would send.

I write stories aimed at particular magazines, and it works pretty darned well.
 

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I don't even think about it. Confidence does not mean a magazine will buy a story, and lack of confidence doesn't mean a magazine won't buy a story. I just write them and submit them. What happens after I submit a story is out of my control.

But my sell percentage is pretty high, and I believe this is because I read the magazines I submit to, know what they've previously published, know what they haven't published, and more important, usually get a good idea of what they haven't published that they wish someone would send.

I write stories aimed at particular magazines, and it works pretty darned well.

Golden Advice.
 

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I think the main key is writing well. Even if you've read a particular magazine for years and understand exactly the types of stories the editors tend to pick, it doesn't mean that you can replicate the caliber of authors published within that magazine.

As others have stated, confidence is irrelevant. It is not a magical force that changes your destiny (and that's coming from a speculative writer).
 

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I'm not confident when I send a piece out, ever (pretty much). Sometimes I have a good feeling about a match between my piece and a market, but that can go either way.

The hits I have had so far have been pretty random. One outfit are publishing me even though my cover letter had two spelling mistakes.

As to subscribing and research, I read the mags I like, and I submit to those but I also submit to ones I don't know, as long as my piece fits the guidelines and the genre.

I have a full time day job and I don't have time to read all the journals I would like to. So many journals insist you subscribe before you submit. There are good editorial reasons for that, and there are also good monetary reasons. It doesn't always make or break the story, IMO.
 

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I think the main key is writing well. Even if you've read a particular magazine for years and understand exactly the types of stories the editors tend to pick, it doesn't mean that you can replicate the caliber of authors published within that magazine.

As others have stated, confidence is irrelevant. It is not a magical force that changes your destiny (and that's coming from a speculative writer).

Well, yeah, of course you have to write well, but writing well isn't enough. Fit is even more important than quality, and you must know how to fit a story to a magazine, or sales are going to be few and far between, no matter how well you write.
 

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I just send it out with no real expectations. And I don't write TO markets nor do I even try to match the market. I write whatever story pops into my head and if it's a fantasy, I send it to all the magazines Duotrope says accept fantasies. Likewise other genres.
 

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I just send it out with no real expectations. And I don't write TO markets nor do I even try to match the market. I write whatever story pops into my head and if it's a fantasy, I send it to all the magazines Duotrope says accept fantasies. Likewise other genres.


You're probably in the majority, but my experience says you won't sell many stories this way, unless you've actually read most of the magazines on your submission list.

When you actually read a bunch of magazines, you do write to the market, consciously or not. The stories that pop into your head will be based on stories you've read, at least in style, tone, mood, etc.

There is a good bit of commonality in the markets, which means a story written specifically for one magazine in a given genre may sell to a different magazine in that same genre, but this generally only works when teh writer actually reads a pretty fair number of different magazines.

When reading the slush, an editor can usually tell immediately whether the writer actually reads the magazine, and it's just real tough to sell many stories in any genre unless you spend a lot of time reading the various magazines.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned here is a trick I learned a long time ago, and that's writing a story aimed at a particular magazine, but a story of a type that magazine has never published. I've made some of my best sales by writing a children's humor piece for a serious adult magazine, or a story with serious adult overtones to a children's magazine, or a genre piece for a literary glossy, or a literary piece for a straight genre mag.

Sometimes reading outside your genre can give you new markets, and give editors stories they simply don't get from anyone else.
 

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How confident do you feel when you send stories out?

Big secret here: Send out, don't think about it. if they like it, they like it. If they don't, they don't. My taste doesn't always match exactly what an editor wants.

Do you feel like your work fits what they are looking for or do you think it is a bit of a long shot? How do you think your confidence affects your writing?

Again, I try to not overthink it. If I were to worry about every submission I send out, I'd never get any more writing done.

I think the best thing you can do is just write. Submit when you feel the story is ready. Then forget it until you get the response.
 

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You're probably in the majority, but my experience says you won't sell many stories this way, unless you've actually read most of the magazines on your submission list.

When you actually read a bunch of magazines, you do write to the market, consciously or not. The stories that pop into your head will be based on stories you've read, at least in style, tone, mood, etc.

There is a good bit of commonality in the markets, which means a story written specifically for one magazine in a given genre may sell to a different magazine in that same genre, but this generally only works when teh writer actually reads a pretty fair number of different magazines.

Wh it's just real tough to sell many stories in any genre unless you spend a lot of time reading the various magazines.
Sounds like they encourage inbred writing. :D

And I used to buy and read a lot of fiction magazines. All it did was make me poorer in my pocketbook. It didn't help me sell any stories. And unfortunately, it didn't make me write in the style of any of them either.

Maybe I lack whatever mimic writing gene is required to do that.

Which is why I do it this way now. Following the suggested route didn't help me sell.
 

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Don't you still like to read the journals and mags? I really don't understand why so many people writing short stories are so against reading them. I read a bunch of them. I enjoy them, and I can't imagine not reading them. It is really not that much money. A lot of them have discount codes listed on their websites or facebook pages.
 

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get a good idea of what they haven't published that they wish someone would send.
how? just from those broad webpage statements about what kind of story they like, or can you share advice on how one would get to this?
 

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how? just from those broad webpage statements about what kind of story they like, or can you share advice on how one would get to this?

Having kept close watch on jar's posts I can tell you he reads back two years to get an idea ;)

Anywho I wouldn't mind hearing what categories he considers in terms of whats been done and not.
 

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Don't you still like to read the journals and mags? I really don't understand why so many people writing short stories are so against reading them. I read a bunch of them. I enjoy them, and I can't imagine not reading them. It is really not that much money. A lot of them have discount codes listed on their websites or facebook pages.

Yes, I do enjoy reading shirt fiction. I just can't read as many as I used to. And I certainly can't read every single magazine I submit to.
 

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Yes, I do enjoy reading shirt fiction. I just can't read as many as I used to. And I certainly can't read every single magazine I submit to.
do you like light hearted T-shirt fiction, or do you go for the more formal dress shirt fiction?
 

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Fairly confident. My average is selling 3 out of 4. Still not good enough for me.

How is that even possible? Where are you selling these stories? Good for you.
 

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More hopeful than confident right now. I'm just writing stories then finding places to send to. As I polish my skills I may target stories more.
 

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Don't you still like to read the journals and mags? I really don't understand why so many people writing short stories are so against reading them.

I'm working on finding some I like. I love Stupefying Stories, but I don't write spec fic. I would love to; I just haven't been able to yet.

I have a couple copies of Glimmer Train...we'll see how that goes.
 
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