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Are you turned off by places that still call for submissions to come in the mail? Why is it that some places still require snail-mail submissions? Do those places get less submissions? And do you guys think they are more likely to read the whole story if it is actually printed out and in their hands.

So far, I have sent two stories out this way because I really wanted to try for those publications and there was no other way. But do you think eventually everyone will be on some online submissions system?
 

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Way back in the dark ages of 12 years ago, I spent a small fortune on mailing in my submissions. But I did make sales that more than compensated for my expenditures.

What I am finding now is that more are going the online form route. I get more responses this way than snail mail now. Some of my poor SASEs seem to be somewhere stuck behind a desk or stepped on in the hallways.

I'd say it doesn't matter if an editor or first reader reads the pages online or in hardcopy. Same reaction to a story, whether it grabs them or not, whether it fits their magazine or not.

Best bet--don't worry about whether they only accept snail mail or online, worry about starting at the top and making sure your story is well-written, compelling, and fits what that magazine prints.
 

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Are you turned off by places that still call for submissions to come in the mail? Why is it that some places still require snail-mail submissions? Do those places get less submissions? And do you guys think they are more likely to read the whole story if it is actually printed out and in their hands.

So far, I have sent two stories out this way because I really wanted to try for those publications and there was no other way. But do you think eventually everyone will be on some online submissions system?

I prefer places that still take snail mail submissions.

Snail mail gets more expensive almost every year, so I do think every magazine and book publisher out tehre will eventually go electronic.

But I still think snail mail is superior in nearly every way, and I'm more than happy to submit this way.
 

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Jamesaritchie - Why do you prefer them? Why do you think they are better? I would have thought most people would say the opposite.
 

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I have had more requests for partials and fulls through snail mail submissions. I get nary a bite--just a submishmash decline, or email reject from online submissions. I think it's easier to hit delete when not staring an SASE in the face, with a stamp on it--maybe more guilt? :)
 

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I only do postal subs if I really know the market and am really sure that my story would be a perfect fit there. There are markets I'd like to submit more stuff to (like The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction) but I just can't afford it.
 

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Jamesaritchie - Why do you prefer them? Why do you think they are better? I would have thought most people would say the opposite.

Most people would say the opposite, but I think it's because they're concerned with how cheap, easy, and convenient electronic submissions are.

Well, they are cheap, easy, and convenient, which means writers flood editors and agents with submissions. Usually bad ones, and very often ones that never would have gone out through snail mail.

The number of electronic submissions is staggering, often unworkable, if you want to give each story any attention. The delete key is tempting, and the form rejection without reading is even more tempting.

From my experience, snail mail submissions simply get much more individual attention. This wasn't always teh case, but now I find it to be true.

Anyway, cheap, easy, and convenient is wonderful from the writer side of the equation, but I'm more concerned with what happens once a story reaches the editor.
 

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Are you turned off by places that still call for submissions to come in the mail? Why is it that some places still require snail-mail submissions? Do those places get less submissions? And do you guys think they are more likely to read the whole story if it is actually printed out and in their hands.

So far, I have sent two stories out this way because I really wanted to try for those publications and there was no other way. But do you think eventually everyone will be on some online submissions system?

As a small literary magazine editor/publisher, I'll tell you why I did it for years - it tended to at least partially filter out unserious writers. If you are taking the time to mail the thing, and paying to mail it, there is frankly less crap that comes through. I'm not saying there isn't still a good amount that comes through, but less than on e-mail.

I think this is less true today than it was ten years ago, however, and I switched to accepting e-mail submission in the past four years. Via postal mail, I am starting to get more and more people who simply don't know how to use a computer, but imagine they are gifted by God to write. Of course...these usually come in large fonts, on colored paper, photocopied, or typewritten though. If I get computer printed pages, and I get them in the mail - chances are, it's a decent submission. Perhaps it won't make the cut, but it's at least decent.

Another reason I did not accept e-mail submissions for years is that I want to hold printed copies of the "first cut" - i.e., I reject about 70% of submissions outright, hold about 30%, and read that hold pile again and again until I've cut it down to a third or fourth. I much prefer to do that reading on hard copy than on a screen. But now I do it on screen. I still get a handful of mailed submissions, however. The advantage of e-mail is not having to go to the PO box or deal with all that paper taking up space and having to be recycled, or having to put replies in envelopes, etc. - so there are advantages to e-mail for editors too.

As an editor, though, I know I pay more attention to submissions I receive in the mail. I don't mean to, necessarily, but I know I do - because they are so much easier to read and re-read, and because someone made the effort.

As a writer - yeah, I'm cheap and lazy. I prefer e-mail submissions and won't bother with markets that only consider postal submissions unless I know the market well and believe I stand a chance.
 
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Most of the money I've earned (maybe all of it; let me think) has come from postal submissions, and like I've said before, it allows me to own a second home.

So I'm biased in favor of the post office, very much so.
 

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I very rarely sub anywhere that doesn't accept electronic subs. For financial reasons, mostly. Sending a postal sub to the US or UK from New Zealand is expensive and time-consuming.
 

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Most people would say the opposite, but I think it's because they're concerned with how cheap, easy, and convenient electronic submissions are.

Well, they are cheap, easy, and convenient, which means writers flood editors and agents with submissions. Usually bad ones, and very often ones that never would have gone out through snail mail.

The number of electronic submissions is staggering, often unworkable, if you want to give each story any attention. The delete key is tempting, and the form rejection without reading is even more tempting.

From my experience, snail mail submissions simply get much more individual attention. This wasn't always teh case, but now I find it to be true.

Anyway, cheap, easy, and convenient is wonderful from the writer side of the equation, but I'm more concerned with what happens once a story reaches the editor.
Hmmm.

Where were you for my 'Email Queries: The Death of the Query Letter' thread? Hmm?
 

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There aren't very many markets in my genres that accept postal submissions, but it doesn't bother me that some do. If there's a market I like that only accepts postal submissions, I'll go for it.
 
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