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I'm reissuing an out of print book of mine for which I have the rights, as an ebook. The book contains 20 interviews. I'd like to add maybe 20 new interviews, which were originally published in a magazine for which I was a staff writer. The magazine is now out of print.
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Need to go to the magazine (if anyone still owns it) and not the subjects;
Need to go to the subjects and not the magazine;
Need to go to the subjects and the magazine;
Don't need to go to anyone, since once they gave you the interview it's yours to do with what you wish.
Other (explain please)
 

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Popmuze, you need to check the contracts under which you conducted those original interviews. Did you sell first rights only, or the whole copyright?

As you wrote them when you were a staff writer, chances are that the publication owns copyright on all of them and you have no rights to publish them or sell them on in any form. Are you absolutely sure you "have the rights"? Most staff writers agree to sign over all rights in any work they write while on staff, and if that's the case you're unlikely to get their agreement to republish the pieces in book form.

I'd check your employment contract for that time, and check out any other contracts you had regarding the articles. If they're not clear, approach the magazine's current owners and ask for permission to republish them. Don't assume you can use any illustrations or photos which appeared in the original publications, by the way--they'll be under someone else's copyrights and you'll have to go through all this again to get permission for these.
 

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I agree that the interviews I did while on staff belong to the publication. However, the publication is now out of business. A few years ago the company that bought the magazine gave me permission to reprint a bunch of interviews in a different book. So they may not be a problem. If I get permission from the magazine, the question is do I also have to go to the artists themselves to get their permission to be in a book.
 

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By the way, the rights I have are for my first book, which reverted to me and contains 20 interviews. The interviews I want to add are mostly from the magazine.
 

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I agree that the interviews I did while on staff belong to the publication. However, the publication is now out of business. A few years ago the company that bought the magazine gave me permission to reprint a bunch of interviews in a different book. So they may not be a problem. If I get permission from the magazine, the question is do I also have to go to the artists themselves to get their permission to be in a book.

Ah. If you want to republish those interviews in a new and different book, you would be wise to request permission for it and not depend on having been previously granted permission for a different book.

The work--the writing--is yours, so I don't think you'd have to ask the artistes you interviewed for permission to rerun the interviews although it would be curteous to let them know it's going ahead. But do check with someone more qualified than I on this point. Did you get permission from them when you published the book previously? If so, it might well be that you've set a precident, and it'll be expected of you this time too.

By the way, the rights I have are for my first book, which reverted to me and contains 20 interviews. The interviews I want to add are mostly from the magazine.

I'm confused (which is easily done). I thought your book consisted of the interviews from the magazine. Or have I got that right, and you're now hoping to add more interviews and make a newer, bigger edition?

Either way, you'll be safer if you ask for permission where it's not needed than don't ask when it is. In your place I'd ask permission from everyone, for everything, get it in writing, and keep duplicate copies in separate locations. These things can so easily come back to bite you even when you're scrupulous.
 

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To answer your question: The book that's out of print has 20 interviews, for which I had signed releases. Essentially, this is a reprint of that book, so I'd like to believe I don't need those 20 signatures again. I could be wrong. The new interviews would be from the magazine, and the question still is, do I need permission from the magazine, the artists, or both. Generally, my books are so obscure that the artists wouldn't bother coming after me, even if they were to find out about it. And since it's an ebook I'm planning, I could just take them out if they complained too loudly. Whereas, if I asked for permission and was denied, or more likely, never heard back from the person, I wouldn't be able to use that interview.
Incidentally, I recently reprinted a book which contained a dozen interviews and didn't request new permission from anyone. Then again, so far it's only sold ten copies.
 

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To answer your question: The book that's out of print has 20 interviews, for which I had signed releases. Essentially, this is a reprint of that book, so I'd like to believe I don't need those 20 signatures again.

My bold. If you're changing the book in any way this is not a reprint of the original edition: it's a new edition at least, or an entirely new book. I'd argue that you'd be best served to request those permissions again. You might not need to do so but it's often better to err on the side of caution especially if, as you seem to suggest, you don't think the new owners of the original magazine would have any problems with you doing as you wish.

Incidentally, I recently reprinted a book which contained a dozen interviews and didn't request new permission from anyone. Then again, so far it's only sold ten copies.
How many copies it's sold is immaterial. If you've republished interviews which were originally published elsewhere then you need permission for that, even if you conducted and wrote them in the first place, and you're now potentially infringing copyright by having done so. And knowingly, too. Be careful.

Popmuze, I've answered your questions here repeatedly now but it seems that you're not happy with my responses; and that you might already be engaging copyright infringement. I strongly advise you to consult a knowledgeable IP lawyer and get his or her advice in writing on this matter. Yes, it'll cost you; but it might well save you a lot more in the long run.
 

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If you've republished interviews which were originally published elsewhere then you need permission for that, even if you conducted and wrote them in the first place

Don't want to belabor the point, but the book I recently reissued was the exact same book as I had published in 1982 and all the interviews were done for that book.The second book I was thinking of reissuing would be the same case, but I might rewrite the text. The third book would have the old interviews that I did for the book, a bunch of new interviews from the magazine. That's the one that could cause trouble. Maybe I should put the new interviews in an entirely new, fourth book, and seek permissions for that. The third book could then be reissued exactly as it was in 1975, with all the interviews done specifically for that book.
 

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Popmuze. I am not a lawyer, and strongly advise you to consult one before you go any further. Take what follows as general suggestions only, and not as legal advice, because it seems to me you’re hell-bent on not doing this the way you’re required to by law and I want no part in it.


Regarding the interviews which have appeared in the now-defunct magazine: you conducted and wrote these interviews on company time, therefore copyright in them almost certainly belongs to the company. You have to check your employment contract from that time to find this out.
The publication is now out of business but another company bought it out, so if the copyrights belonged to your employer at the time they will almost certainly have transferred to the new owner of the magazine.


You have already published twenty of these interviews in a different book, for which the new owner of the now-defunct magazine gave you permission. If the original publishers of that book want to reprint that same edition of the same book, you don’t need further permissions; if you want to publish a new edition of the same book you might not need permissions but you must check what permissions you sought, and what you were granted. It’s possible (likely, in fact) that the permissions you were given first-time round relate only to that specific publisher, and perhaps even that specific edition. If you want to publish a new edition of that book with a new publisher (including if you want to self-publish a new edition) you’ll probably need to seek permission again; if you want to publish those same interviews in an entirely new book then you first need to get permissions from the defunct magazine’s new owners again unless the permissions you were first granted specifically include such an eventuality.


Rights in your first book might have reverted to you, but all that means is that you have the rights to offer it for sale to another publisher or self-publish it. Both these eventualities would result in new editions, for which fresh permissions from the original rights-owner—the owner of that now-defunct magazine—will first be required. If you write a new book based on those same interviews, you will also have to request permission to use them again because you are not the copyright owner; if you add more interviews to the mix, then you’ll need permissions for the whole lot. And you’ll probably need fresh releases from the interviewees, depending on what the original ones said.


To answer your question: The book that's out of print has 20 interviews, for which I had signed releases. Essentially, this is a reprint of that book, so I'd like to believe I don't need those 20 signatures again. I could be wrong.


You ARE wrong. As I’ve already said several times, unless the original publisher is managing this it’s a new edition, not a reprint, so you DO need those permissions; and you need to check the releases you have, as they might well only apply to publication in the magazine or your first book (wherever they were first published—it’s not clear from your comments here).


The new interviews would be from the magazine, and the question still is, do I need permission from the magazine, the artists, or both.


To find out if you require further permissions from the interview subjects, you will have to examine the signed releases which you are in possession of. If they specify that you have permission to publish the interview in the defunct magazine and only there, then you’ll have to seek permission from the interviewees again, this time asking their permission to use the interviews in book form. If you don’t have releases for all the interviews then it’s likely you’ll need to request permission anew from all the interviewees. It could be that the magazine in which the interviews were first published held those permissions: you’ll need to find that out, track them down, and find out what permission was granted. Do not assume that any such permission was granted unless you see it in paper in front of you, or you’ll be in legal soup.


my books are so obscure that the artists wouldn't bother coming after me, even if they were to find out about it


I know of no legal defence covered by obscurity: that is, your disclaimer above is not only not going to help you, it’s a shabby cop-out. It’s disrespectful to the people you interviewed, the company which once paid your wages, and the publisher which published your previous book.


And since it's an ebook I'm planning, I could just take them out if they complained too loudly. Whereas, if I asked for permission and was denied, or more likely, never heard back from the person, I wouldn't be able to use that interview.


So, you’d rather do the easy thing and go ahead without permission and hope you’re not found out than do what’s both legally and morally right but which takes a bit of effort, and you’re relying on no one having the money to go after you if you are found out. What utter class.


Incidentally, I recently reprinted a book which contained a dozen interviews and didn't request new permission from anyone. Then again, so far it's only sold ten copies.


It doesn’t matter how many copies a book sells: if you’re using copyrighted material without the copyright holder’s permission, you’re stealing. Is your publisher aware that you don’t hold the required permission to use this material? You realise that you’ve put their business into jeopardy by doing this? The more I read about this from you, popmuze, the more weaselly you sound.


Don't want to belabor the point, but the book I recently reissued was the exact same book as I had published in 1982 and all the interviews were done for that book.


So you’re talking about using interviews from two of your previous books now? Plus interviews from the magazine? Right. Well, again, you need specific permission for every edition and every new publication. If the original permissions you were granted included such rights then you don’t need to seek them again but if they didn’t, you do, regardless of where you’ve used them before, what they’ve allowed you to do before, or what you think you can get away with.


The second book I was thinking of reissuing would be the same case, but I might rewrite the text. The third book would have the old interviews that I did for the book, a bunch of new interviews from the magazine. That's the one that could cause trouble.


Why do you expect trouble from this third book? Might it be because you know you really should ask permission to use the interviews but you don’t intend to? If that’s the case then you deserve all the trouble you get.


Maybe I should put the new interviews in an entirely new, fourth book, and seek permissions for that. The third book could then be reissued exactly as it was in 1975, with all the interviews done specifically for that book.


Unless that third book is a reprint, published by the original publisher, or you have been given the rights to use the interviews however you like, you still need specific written permission from the copyright holder to do this.


Popmuze, It doesn’t matter how many times you ask the question, you still need specific written permission from the copyright holder to use these interviews in your books; and you need specific written releases from the interviewees too. Hoping no one will catch you and that you'll get away with this is not the way to proceed and I am, frankly, horrified that you seem to think it’s acceptable.
 

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I still don't think you're understanding the situation. But I'll just have to let it go. The only thing I'll say with hopes of clarifying things is that all three books contain no interviews from the magazine. They were all interviews done specifically for the books, for which I obtained all proper permissions. I'll have to check the releases from twenty years ago, but I believe they said the permission was granted for all subsequent editions of the book in any format now existing or existing in the future (a lawyer wrote the release). My thought was that a self published ebook version of a book is a subsequent edition. You seem to believe differently--although using the other interviews I've done over the years for the magazine has confused the issue. None of those interviews appear in any of the three books. I was thinking of using them for a fourth book--or combining them in the third book, which I now see is a bad idea.
 

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Not being a lawyer, never having played one on TV, and having not stayed in a Holiday Inn Express in several months...

Rather than looking at the legal side of this (which yeah, you really should do, just to protect your future) I can see an added value in contacting these artists about those interviews -- fresh material. Fresh thoughts and reflections, more immediacy for the stories. New looks at old memories lead to more stories of memories, perhaps even a whole new book.

Good luck.