Kindle *and* Smashwords or Kindle *or* Smashwords

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So, if you are looking to have a book listed at Amazon for Kindle, and Smashwords for all the iPad, Nook, Kobo, Sony, etc. do you just publish the book in both places?
 

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Well, that made short work of it. Thank you! I guess I had seen where, I believe it was Veinglory, said that Amazon has fine print that says you agree not to publish it elsewhere.
 

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In my opinion, the perqs aren't worth it. You get the ability to make your book free for five days out of every ninety, and you allow your book to be "borrowed," for which you get a slice of a fund.

If memory serves, the income for each title borrowed in the first month was $1.60, which is significantly below the income you'd get for selling the same book if you charged $2.99 (or more) and got the 70% royalty.

Then there's the exclusivity thing. In return for being allowed to make your book free (and getting no income from it), and allowing your book to be borrowed (and getting half or less of the income you'd get from a sale), you can't sell your book anywhere else -- which is leaving money lying on the table.

It's easy to see why Amazon wants exclusive content. It's part of their push toward getting a monopoly for their Kindle e-book readers. What's less easy to see is why writers would want to help them get that monopoly.
 

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That is amusing. :) I totally glossed over his screen name even in your quote the first time.

In my opinion, the perqs aren't worth it.

For many it isn't, but for some it clearly is. All you have to do is look at their royalty reports for November vs December and January. Borrows do not appear to be canibalizing sales so it's extra income that exceeds what they were making through all other channels combined. And then add in the cases of free promos jumpstarting books sales. For people in those cases it's more $ vs less $ and that's a very straightforward decision when their 3 month experiment ends. And they'll be able to reconsider every book in the program every three months. If conditions change for all or some books, put them back on other platforms.
 

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I loled, too.



Why am I always a 'his'.

I was going to be a smart aleck (one of my specialties) and say, "Okay, 'its'" Then I checked your info, complete with photo, and changed my mind. You are definitely neither an 'its' nor a 'his.'
 

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It's easy to see why Amazon wants exclusive content. It's part of their push toward getting a monopoly for their Kindle e-book readers. What's less easy to see is why writers would want to help them get that monopoly.

I'm only one example, but the difference between what I made on the Nook and iPad sales in December and what I made from borrows in January replaced my salary at my day job.

And I'm only talking about the difference between the two. I hardly had any sales through other outlets.

It's anecdotal, sure. I saw in another thread that some people see a 50/50 split or a 60/40 split between Nook and Kindle. For them, it would be crazy to join up.

Oh, I should mention that the vast majority of my borrows are on my 99c books. So, instead of getting 35c from a sale, I got five times this from the borrow. I'll keep playing it by ear, of course. If the market changes and the borrows start to pay less and less, I'll pull out. For now, it makes sense for me to reward the company that rewards me the most.
 

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I've had several books up on kindle for over a year at 2.99 and 70% royalty and they were hardly selling. So I recently dropped them down to .99 at 30% in an attempt to gain fans. This was after reading an article about a woman who did the same. Her sales figures rose dramatically and she began making lists of recent top sellers, once on those lists, her sales jumped again and she moved up the list. She's sold 400,00 books now, at 30 cents a copy. I liked the math.

My latest book, Necessary Evil, was just published to Kindle and Createspace and I went with KDP Select, .99 price and 30% royalty for the same reason.

So now I'm waiting to see if anything changes in my sales.

Take care,

JohnB
 

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John, please check back in with us a month or so from now (if you can remember). I'd be very interested in hearing your results.

Best of luck to you, sir!
 

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For me it's not monetary issues. For me it's the ability for readers to have a choice. Also, the kindle borrow program isn't available to anyone outside the USA as I understand it. No one has been able to lend me books on my kindle fire. (and I'm american - just living overseas and they're in teh US).

That just ticks me off. I get teh whole international distribution thing. I do. On amazon's part they have limited choice from outside publishers. But seriously, get with the program, publishers. PUBLISH WORLDWIDE. >8(
 

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the vast majority of my borrows are on my 99c books. So, instead of getting 35c from a sale, I got five times this from the borrow. I'll keep playing it by ear, of course. If the market changes and the borrows start to pay less and less, I'll pull out. For now, it makes sense for me to reward the company that rewards me the most.

That's awesome, but what scares me is the long term. If Amazon drives B&N under they get to play in monopoly land, change the terms however they like, and authors have to take it.
 

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That's awesome, but what scares me is the long term. If Amazon drives B&N under they get to play in monopoly land, change the terms however they like, and authors have to take it.

I totally understand this fear, but it's not how it usually works. In order to maintain market dominance, most large companies in the past have done everything in their power to keep prices low for customers while treating suppliers fairly. If they were to raise prices and lower royalties, a competitor will spring up overnight to absorb the demand. This is more true in the Internet age than ever before.

Besides, the argument would be thus: I should give up thousands of dollars a month *right now* in order to prevent the unlikely outcome where I *might* lose several hundred dollars a month in the distant, hypothetical future? I'm not going to make that decision.

Amazon has basically given me a career, one I've dreamed about since I was a wee lad. Now they want to pay me handsomely for exclusivity, they are going to let readers read my works for free, and they do all the accounting?

Absolutely.

If I signed with Random House, they would have exclusive rights to my work. They would be the only people who could sell it. But worse: They would get to set the price, keep a higher percentage of the profits, and own my hard work until it, if ever, reverted back to me.

If you view Amazon as your publisher, everything they do is ten times better than any of the big six. Just the fact that I get paid monthly rather than once or twice a year is a huge deal. And I can leave at any time. It's amazing.
 

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If I signed with Random House, they would have exclusive rights to my work. They would be the only people who could sell it. But worse: They would get to set the price, keep a higher percentage of the profits, and own my hard work until it, if ever, reverted back to me.

Presumably they'd sell it somewhere other than RandomHouse(TM) bookstores. The book would revert as soon as they stopped selling (as in, customers giving them (and you) money) it.

Historically, monopolies' motto has always been "All that the traffic will bear." And they arrange regulations and laws to make sure startups can't challenge them.
 

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Historically, monopolies' motto has always been "All that the traffic will bear." And they arrange regulations and laws to make sure startups can't challenge them.

Historically, monopolies have been sued by startups and have been demolished by collusion between government and inefficient competitors. See the lawsuit against Google this week in France for giving away a better map program than the competition's, which costs money. Or the plummeting price of heating and illumination oil under Standard Oil's reign. Or the lawsuits against Microsoft for giving away a browser (which nobody complains about now with Chrome, Firefox, Opera, etc.)

The amazing thing about the war against big companies is that the media is able to get customers to argue against what's best for them. All for the sake of small and inefficient competitors who resort to bribing government officials rather than create a better product.

That's how I see it, anyway. It's not a disagreement that will be settled in a forum, and I don't expect to change your mind. I only offer my philosophical stance so you can see where I'm coming from (which might look outright insane from where you're standing!) :)
 

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Interesting discussions going on here. I'm about to put up my first ebook and while a lot of people in my family have put out books none of them are really all that familiar with ebooks so I'm the experiment I suppose, haha. Exciting and scary at the same time.
 
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