Need a generic term for "asshat"

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I am totally avoiding time, social, and cultural terms that set the tone and time/place something in any period or genera. I've done it mostly, but I can't find away from "don't be an asshat."

Jerk, asshole, dick, lame, boring, stupid, dork, arrogent, prick, nothing seems quite to fit and sum it up so well while being generic as asshat.

I really would love to find an expressive word, that the character saying it is vulgar, without being set in time like that adjective will be eventually.
 

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I would suggest jagoff. It's Pittsburghese for asshole and it's been used for years but I guess since your character is probably not from Pittsburgh, then they probably can't say it haha.

I think 'jerk' is a good word to use. Don't think anyone's going to stop using it. Or what about 'douche' or 'douchebag'? Really of the words you've listed will work, imo.
 

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I would suggest jagoff. It's Pittsburghese for asshole and it's been used for years but I guess since your character is probably not from Pittsburgh, then they probably can't say it haha.

I think 'jerk' is a good word to use. Don't think anyone's going to stop using it. Or what about 'douche' or 'douchebag'? Really of the words you've listed will work, imo.
"Wanker" was what I wrote first pass, but then thought to European, and I should go US. Jerk is sorta... not quite descriptive and very dated?

JagOff reminds me of the ZebraHead song, and sorta feels dated to over a decade ago, but maybe it's just me?

'douche' or 'douchebag' is to contempary, generic, and now... well, sort 5 years ago, but not .. just about to be dated?
 

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I'm thinking I need to go with the timeless "wanker" even though it's European, it's timeless. And I think the people I'm writing about are midwestern American's , the timeless nature of the term might be what I need? And might highlight the fact that they have a larger world view?

I just wish American's weren't so trendy at times like this... And had the British sarcasm and wit. Because "asshole" works, but it's to harsh, and not fun enough to e light hearted to work in he insult, unless I go trendy.
'douche' or 'douchebag'

Maybe I should just go with "wanker" and assume my readers will figure it out? My characters are "worldly" and would know it, even if the target audience wouldn't?

I'm thinking I need to go with the timeless "wanker" even though it's European, it's timeless. And I think the people I'm writing about are midwestern American's , the timeless nature of the term might be what I need? And might highlight the fact that they have a larger world view?

I just wish American's weren't so trendy at times like this... And had the British sarcasm and wit. Because "asshole" works, but it's to harsh, and not fun enough to e light hearted to work in he insult, unless I go trendy.
'douche' or 'douchebag'

Maybe I should just go with "wanker" and assume my readers will figure it out? My characters are "worldly" and would know it, even if the target audience wouldn't?
 
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I am totally avoiding time, social, and cultural terms that set the tone and time/place something in any period or genera. I've done it mostly, but I can't find away from "don't be an asshat."

Jerk, asshole, dick, lame, boring, stupid, dork, arrogent, prick, nothing seems quite to fit and sum it up so well while being generic as asshat.

I really would love to find an expressive word, that the character saying it is vulgar, without being set in time like that adjective will be eventually.

The bold really is an exercise in futility.

Vulgarities are, for the most part, all dated because they change from period to period and vary according to country and region. You won't find very many vulgar words that don't call to mind a specific time period because they tend to start out as colloquialisms.

Asshat is contemporary, as it can't yet be found in a dictionary. Douchebag as an american insult is from the late 60's, and wanker is distinctly british (1972).

Jerk is american slang found as early as 1935. It's probably the closest to what you're looking for. There's also dumbass (1959)
 

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Yea, well you are mostly right missesdash, "fuck" is a timeless vulgarity.

I just wish I had timeless term for douchebag/wanker. I guess I'll just pick one, and hope it works and isn't the thing that dates the story... LOL
 

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I vote against wanker unless the person saying it is British. It's just too uncommon in the US, despite being a great word.

Here are some others off the top of my head. It might help to have the context, as I'm not sure of the exact effect you're going for.

Idiot, dirtbag, scumbag, sleaze, slimeball, schmuck, lowlife, scoundrel, jackass, moron, bonehead, ignoramus, twit, dumbass, bastard

(That was kind of fun, actually.)
 

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Yea, well you are mostly right missesdash, "fuck" is a timeless vulgarity.

I just wish I had timeless term for douchebag/wanker. I guess I'll just pick one, and hope it works and isn't the thing that dates the story... LOL

That's why I said "for the most part"

But Americans definitely don't say "wanker"
 

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I'd think bastard is pretty generic. A lot of fantasy novels or speculative works I've read (set in various different types of settings, medieval-esque, Victorian-esque, etc) have always used some variation of 'bastard' as an insult. The same holds true for a huge array of cross cultural fictional novels. As long as your WiP isn't too futuristic, where being born out of wedlock is even more common than now, 'bastard' is an insult that translates across all cultures.
 

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I think the ones that work are bastard, jerk, douche bag, and twit. Twit is actually my favorite insult and is used countless times in my WIP. :) This was a fun thread.
 

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I'd say jerk works well. It's a little dated but people still use it. Fairly universal too.