Chapters vs. Scenes

Status
Not open for further replies.

Mackenzie

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 16, 2011
Messages
111
Reaction score
4
Location
Roswell, Georgia
I know there are no hard and fast rules, but I often get hung up when I have a series of short scenes within a chapter. Should I keep them together in one chapter, I wonder, or break them up into separate chapters, especially when there's a POV change. I've seen other writers do all sorts of things. I'm interested in thoughts and observations from others who may wrestle with the same issue. I know chapters can be short, long, or in between. Just interested in other perspectives on this.
 
Last edited:

dangerousbill

Retired Illuminatus
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Sep 22, 2010
Messages
4,810
Reaction score
414
Location
The sovereign state of Baja Arizona
I know there are no hard and fast rules, but I often get hung up when I have a series of short scenes within a chapter. Should I keep them together in one chapter, I wonder, or break them up into separate chapters,

It's a matter of style.

I'd like to put pov changes at chapter boundaries, but it's not necessary. If a scene is short, I have no problem bundling it together with another scene in a chapter. Likewise, I've take very long scenes and split them among as many as three chapters, each around 4000-5000 words.
 

Sarah Madara

Freeway stomper extraordinaire
Super Member
Registered
Joined
Oct 25, 2010
Messages
1,062
Reaction score
154
Location
Procrastination Nation
Really it isn't something to stress about. Most books I read with POV breaks do them between scenes, and not necessarily at the chapter point. The only problem there is if the author starts doing so many POV breaks that the reader feels like he's following a ping-pong match instead of a story.

I would go more by the subject of the scenes and where the best cliffhangers are. It's okay to have a shorter or longer chapter if it fits the material. If, for instance, you reach half your normal chapter length but have a scene that ends on a nail-biting cliffhanger, then do the chapter break there. If you have a scene that just doesn't go with the other scenes - a major change in tone, or action, or a huge flashback - then go ahead and start a new chapter. If you feel some scenes really belong together, keep them together.

More action-packed genres tend to favor shorter chapters, but not always.

This won't make or break your book, I promise :)
 

BethS

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 21, 2005
Messages
11,708
Reaction score
1,766
Each chapter should feel like a building block of the story. It may contain one scene or several, one POV or more than one, grouped together thematically.
 

Bufty

Where have the last ten years gone?
Kind Benefactor
Super Member
Registered
Joined
May 9, 2005
Messages
16,767
Reaction score
4,662
Location
Scotland
It's completely up to you - do whatever feels right.

A moment of high tension may suggest the next part of the scene open a fresh Chapter but it doesn't really matter.

A fresh location may suggest the next scene open a fresh Chapter but again it doesn't really matter.

I know there are no hard and fast rules, but I often get hung up when I have a series of short scenes within a chapter. Should I keep them together in one chapter, I wonder, or break them up into separate chapters, especially when there's a POV change. I've seen other writers do all sorts of things. I'm interested in thoughts and observations from others who may wrestle with the same issue. I know chapters can be short, long, or in between. Just interested in other perspectives on this.
 

Kenra Daniels

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Mar 23, 2010
Messages
416
Reaction score
44
Location
Kentucky
Website
kenradaniels.com
I like to keep closely related scenes in the same chapter. For example, a scene with one character moving toward an event, a scene with another character moving independently toward that same event, and a third scene with the event.

If the 3 short scenes have no obvious relationship to one another, I'm more likely to separate them into different chapters.

Kenra
 

ResearchGuy

Resident Curmudgeon
Requiescat In Pace
Registered
Joined
Mar 26, 2005
Messages
5,011
Reaction score
697
Location
Sacramento area, CA
Website
www.umbachconsulting.com
FWIW, M.C. Beaton seems (to me, anyway) to break a lot of the rules in that area (latest Agatha Raisin mystery is a good example), but still sells a lot of books. Lots of scene changes within chapters, popping from one character's view to another.

--Ken
 

Mackenzie

Super Member
Registered
Joined
Dec 16, 2011
Messages
111
Reaction score
4
Location
Roswell, Georgia
Thanks everybody who's weighed in so far. I find I tend to clump related scenes during set up, then break them into shorter scenes as I build to the climax. Did I mention I write in the suspense/thriller genre? Or am trying to, at any rate. Paranormal and romantic, up to this point.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.