Alan Moore On Frank Miller On OWS

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"It’s a completely justified howl of moral outrage and it seems to be handled in a very intelligent, non-violent way, which is probably another reason why Frank Miller would be less than pleased with it. I’m sure if it had been a bunch of young, sociopathic vigilantes with Batman make-up on their faces, he’d be more in favour of it."--Alan Moore

The opinion of a man who has led something of a real life and known deprivation as opposed to the venom spewed by a privileged fan-boy turned privileged pro.

My opinion, of course. Worth exactly what you paid for it.
 
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Wow, I had expected much more from Miller, being American and the most sharp anti-Reagan voice in the 80's. When did he go so far to the Right?
 

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I appreciate these guys are comic makers but Comic Books and Graphic Novels probably isn't the place for this. Politics & Current Events forum is ---> thataway

When quoting, please include a link to the original article.

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Meh.

The relative merits of the Occupy movement are not worth debating in that forum...or this one, really.

Miller posted his uninformed tirade on his comic book oriented blog and Alan Moore posted his opinion on another comic book oriented venue.

This is a comic book oriented forum as well.

There's so little real discussion here in regards to comic books or graphic novels, any activity should be welcomed...not redirected.

Again...just my opinion.
 

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Something is very wrong with the world when the voice of reason is Alan Moore's.
hah! you clearly live in a different world than me. because I consider his opinions almost always pretty sound.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I also agree with him more often than not.

He is indeed a very smart and reasonable man, true that. (Also very kind, I hear.) But he also worships a roman snake god, abandoned comics writing for a career in magic and gave away his rights to all of his comics just before they were made into very lucrative movies. If you hear about these things from anybody but him, you might find some of them a tad excentric, to say the least.

What totally fascinates me about Moore is his ability to make a very reasonable and compelling case in favor of all these decisions when you ask him. I've seen him talk about the snake god thing on TV. Absolutely agreeable and compelling.
 

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He is indeed a very smart and reasonable man, true that. (Also very kind, I hear.)
I can attest to the truth of that.
But he also worships a roman snake god,
let me explain that with some analogies.

have you ever met a Christian or a Jew who did not believe in the literal truth of the Resurrection? Adam and Eve?

how about a Catholic who believed in the fallibility of the present Pope, though Catholic dogma says otherwise?

they have chose to stretch belief and, in effect, believe a thing because it gives them spiritual and emotional sustenance while disavowing the literal truth of it.

he has said that he deliberately chose an absurd deity later exposed as a fraud.

AM has decided to do this consciously and to extend his belief a bit farther than what others have. because he practices magick, rather than religion. in magick of the postmodern variety you can deliberately change belief as a practice in of itself. it has to transcending belief and getting into metabelief.
abandoned comics writing for a career in magic
around the Voice of the Fire period, he said that he had abandoned comics in favor of other artistic pursuits and then back and worked on other comics projects.

and gave away his rights to all of his comics just before they were made into very lucrative movies.
I hadn't heard of that. DC and a few other parties had always "owned" (legally, not, I think ethically or morally) some of his earlier works. he retains the copyright on later comics creations. From Hell onwards, basically.

What totally fascinates me about Moore is his ability to make a very reasonable and compelling case in favor of all these decisions when you ask him. I've seen him talk about the snake god thing on TV. Absolutely agreeable and compelling.
supersanity. supersanity exceeds sanity in the same way that sanity exceeds insanity. I believe very much in that principle.
 
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Yep, all of them. That's why you won't find his name in the opening credits of any of the more recent adaptations, unlike his collaborators'. ("Based on the graphic novel by Dave Gibbons" etc.) He just won't have any part of that, literally.

he has said that he deliberately chose an absurd deity later exposed as a fraud.

Didn't know about that one. Sounds like him, though.
 

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Didn't know about that one. Sounds like him, though.
that gets into why I don't make pronouncements about subjects and public figures I don't know much about. every story has more than one side.

on the subject, I ran across a hilarious riff AM did about fans taking some of his deadpan humor literally.

update:

http://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/robin-josies-utter-shambles/id394641784

you will find that particular bit towards the end. if you don't laugh at this, you have no soul!
 
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Can't play it 'cos I don't have iTunes, but it's probably a lot like taking my initial remark about AM too seriously, so I guess I get the notion.
I figured that you had. I thought the show would give you a laugh.
 
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