Erotica and Social Responsibility

dangerousbill

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On another forum, we were discussing an essential social role for erotica writers, if we choose to accept it.

Sex education programs are being cut across the US (and perhaps elsewhere). Planned Parenthood has been demonized. Religion-based belief systems are coming down like a soggy blanket over all human interactions except killing.

How are today's youngsters going to learn about sex? From Redtube or Xhamster? Graffiti? HBO? Not likely from parents, who are notoriously bad at it.

While I was growing up, sex education was something that happened on the streetcorner or at the drive-in. My father was not very clever about hiding his porn collection, so much of what I learned about sex, as an adolescent, came from cheap novels. I can't tell you how many twisted and plain wrong ideas came from porn writers who likely knew less about sex than I did.

I'm talking about the serious side of sex: simple anatomy, birth control, disease protection, the importance of female gratification, and other stuff that wasn't available at all until the 1970s. Disease control doesn't have to be a scary and dry subject, for example, it can be incorporated as a natural part of sex scenes, or even as plot seeds in their own right.

As fellow smut writers, do you feel a responsibility to educate as well as entertain?
 
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Great question!

I don't think there's a simple yes or no answer. On one hand, erotica is not sex education. We tend to write about highly idealized sexual situations. The primary purpose is to provide a sexually intense fictional experience.

But I do feel there is some responsibility involved, just as there is in any kind of art. For example, someone writing a war novel with a simplistic message at the end saying YAY WAR IS ALWAYS GREAT is being irresponsible and ignoring the experiences of a lot of veterans. If someone writes erotica where the people having sex complain that using condoms kill pleasure so they would never use them for casual sex, and that attitude isn't contradicted in any way by the narrator, yes, that's irresponsible.

Education can be an important secondary function of erotica. Just not the primary one.
 

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I don't know that it's our responsibility but I always make sure that my characters have condoms handy and that the reader sees that.
I do think if we can illustrate that our characters are practicing safe sex it's a good thing. If they're not, then there'd better be a good reason (part of the plot)
 

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Responsibity? No. But it is something to consider. I personally would be horrified if anyone needed to get sex ed from erotica these days. If they can' t get Internet or a library, where are they getting recently released erotic novels?
 
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It's not my duty to educate and inform, but I do it anyway. I'm aware that a shockingly large percentage of adults really don't know much beyond the basics, for a variety of reasons. Many don't even realize their ignorance and therefore don't seek reliable additional information. And for kids, it's even worse.

Like Firedrake, I have modern-day characters practice safe sex and inquire after one another's sexual histories. I often place sex in the context of a relationship which is at least respectful if not loving. I have characters say no for valid reasons and show that choice being honored by disappointed would-be partners.

But while I strongly believe all humans deserve education on the basics of sexuality, I don't stop to educate or lecture. In what I write, that would be one character talking down to another.

It's tough, though. Anybody else go to Yahoo Answers? Every day you see kids of 13 - 15 asking questions so basic that it's amazing they don't yet know this stuff. (I learned it at home, and again at school by age 10 or 11.) You also see girls in that age range fearing they're pregnant because of unprotected sex either due to not being prepared or at the boy's insistence. (And grown women, too. Ugh.)

Maryn, who wants to mother everybody, including sex ed
 

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If your kids are looking to me for this they're in serious trouble
 

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Unfortunately, there's an abundance of kids who don't have anybody better, Wayne. At least you know what's what and will tell 'em straight--no pun intended.

I can't remember if you addressed safe sex in your memoir. Refresh my memory?

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It is shocking that sex education is not being done properly (and frankly, I am not sure it ever has been but there you go...). However, I would argue that it is not the role of erotica to solve this issue. Why do you read erotica? To get aroused. This implies that you are already having sex. Indeed, most erotica is restricted to those who are over the age of consent and beyond the age of consent is far, far too late for any education. That needs to happen long before that point.

Perhaps the place for education is actually MG and YA fiction? I've been reading the Morganville books by Rachel Caine and one of the (albeit minor among all the vampires :) ) issues in the early books is that the MC is underage. She wants to have sex but it is illegal and there is a lot of discussion about this - she really wants to, he really wants to and various older characters wade in with advice... finally they both make an adult and reasoned decision to wait until she is old enough.

Now, I think that this sort of thing, slipped into an interesting storyline almost as an unintrusive aside, potentially has a good chance of influencing many young people. You could do it with discussions about contraception, disease control, issues with pregnancy and so on. There has to be a fine balance between being preachy or lecturing and not giving enough information but I think it is possible. The main danger is making any of it seem 'official' because the moment that anything is seen as 'something linked to school' many kids will ignore what is being said. Frankly, if I were in charge of a school, I'd find out what books did give good advice on sex education and then ban them (while at the same time making sure everyone knew where they could get a hold of a copy :) ) Create a nice little subversive element which the kids would love.

But then I am generally banned from being in charge of anything. The excuse they give is usually a mumbled comment about a date and someone called 'George Orwell'... :)
 

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Unfortunately, there's an abundance of kids who don't have anybody better, Wayne. At least you know what's what and will tell 'em straight--no pun intended.

I can't remember if you addressed safe sex in your memoir. Refresh my memory?

Maryn, showered and perfumed at last



I've never had safe sex unless you consider oral safe :D
 

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Well, so long as everyone's careful with his or her teeth...

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Because I tend to write a lot of erotica with BDSM elements I'll sometimes put a 'Dear Reader' note at the beginning to warn and educate them. Last thing I want to see is someone hurt after trying something they read about in my books. For example, here is the warning for 'Peppermint Passion', my holiday story that has chemical play in it.
~Author’s Note~

Dear Ladies and Gents,

There is nothing I love more than reading a romance novel and finding out something new and fun to try out with my husband. After all, the couple that plays together stays
together. Before you decide to try out peppermint oil play with your sweetie/subbie, a word of warning:

Peppermint oil can hurt you!

And I don't mean a good hurt. I mean an 'Oh crap I have to figure out how I'm going to explain to my family why I have to get a skin graft on my vagina' hurt. See, peppermint oil, while fun and arousing when used in moderation, is a chemical and can cause chemical burns. The best way to use peppermint/cinnamon/spearmint oil is in their diluted form and the best way to dilute them is with a water-based lubricant, preferably an edible one. Usually the ratio is one part peppermint oil to three parts lubricant. Start out with small amounts and work your way up to what you and your partner like.

Doms - this is for you. Before using peppermint oil on your sub, use it on yourself first. While you may not have the same sexual equipment as your partner, you can use
other parts of your body to simulate the feeling of peppermint oil on the anus, vagina, or glans. Your inner lip, for example, will have similar sensitivity to a vagina. Dilute the peppermint oil and place some on your inner lip and test it before you pour it all over your sub. This will educate you on the sensation and not leave you guessing as to what
your sub is experiencing.

I hope I didn't scare you away from a little peppermint play. In the right amounts it can provide a mind-blowing experience for both partners. Enjoy, and remember—Safe, Sane, Consensual. :)

Oh, and pretty much all of my publishers require safe sex or at least a discussion of sexual history between the characters. I usually just have them slip a condom on and make it part of the story.
 
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I don't necessarily feel I need to educate my readers, but I at least try to make my characters behave responsibly. They all use condoms unless they have a legitimate reason not to (they're monogamous and have been for some time, for example).

That said, I do feel a need to be extra aware of reader perception when I'm writing kink. There is so, SO much bad BDSM fiction out there that's basically, rape masquerading as BDSM, not to mention other highly unsafe practices. I'm very concerned about readers unfamiliar with kink thinking that sort of thing is normal and acceptable. Since there's such a wide variety of kinky things, someone might read a scene and think "hey, that sounds hot!" when it's actually dangerous. I've read things in BDSM fiction that would not only hurt (in a bad way), it could actually traumatize, seriously injure, or even kill someone. Not exaggerating. So when it comes to my own stuff, I'm not writing textbooks or guidebooks, but you'd better believe the BDSM in my books is safe, sane, and consensual.
 

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It's tough, though. Anybody else go to Yahoo Answers? Every day you see kids of 13 - 15 asking questions so basic that it's amazing they don't yet know this stuff. (I learned it at home, and again at school by age 10 or 11.) You also see girls in that age range fearing they're pregnant because of unprotected sex either due to not being prepared or at the boy's insistence. (And grown women, too. Ugh.)

It's scary, isn't it? I sincerely hope some of those "kids" are trolls (and some are), but a good many of them are real, as are their questions. Really, really frightening.
 

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Btw i am not at all sure why virgins can't get aroused from erotica... I sure could. All genre have fiction elements that would be dangerous in real life, however. So I would never think any genre should act as a lifestyle guide.
 

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Btw i am not at all sure why virgins can't get aroused from erotica... I sure could

Ditto.

All genre have fiction elements that would be dangerous in real life, however. So I would never think any genre should act as a lifestyle guide.

Agreed. I just find with kink, there are things that are portrayed that could, to the untrained eye, seem like a good idea, but most definitely are NOT. I don't expect readers to use my books as guides, but I do write it with the characters doing things that wouldn't maim or kill them in real life. It's not a guidebook or anything like that, but at least I can sleep at night knowing if someone tries something out of one of my books, they most likely won't wind up with dislocated limbs or something (I've actually seen characters suspended in fiction in ways that would destroy their joints in no time). (And I wouldn't have my characters doing dangerous, excruciating things anyway, since I'd be squicked out beyond repair if they did.)
 

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Is masterbating considered safe sex? Of course, as a catholic, I would never do that...

It's fine so long as you feel guilty about it and then confess... and its not like you have the restriction of one of the sects where you were only allowed to confess once in your life (usually just before you died...) :)

@Veinglory: I agree that all genres should seek to be responsible about what they tell their readers BUT this was specifically talking about sex education with an implication that it was referring to young people. Therefore erotica is not the best place to put that (though comments about danerous sexual practises not normally covered in sex ed such as chemical play are perfectly appropriate :) )
 

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I'm with Ann and thethinker. When I wrote suspense I never worried that anybody would read my stuff and think, Hey, I'm going to try that. But with erotica, they can, and they do, imitate what arouses them, sometimes without even reading it carefully. The results may be disastrous and take them to the ER, giving the staff some great stories.

Maryn, glad her stupid imitator laughed at himself instead of calling a lawyer
 

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Now, I think that this sort of thing, slipped into an interesting storyline almost as an unintrusive aside, potentially has a good chance of influencing many young people. You could do it with discussions about contraception, disease control, issues with pregnancy and so on.

This is the sort of thing I was imagining.

A good analogy is the treatment of alcohol by mainstream media. On today's TV and movies, a character who gets smashed has his keys taken away by a friend or the bartender, or voluntarily calls a taxi. Conversely, s/he drives anyway and generally ends up in an accident. It's become part of the canon.

Compare this with media of the 1940-1960, where the characters were forever swilling whiskey before going into gunfights or driving away.

In neither case does alcohol have to be the point of the story; it's part of the background social structure. Back then booze was cool; now it's not.
 
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Most astute observation, Bill.

We had a discussion about this when the remake of "Arthur" came out. When the original was made, a daffy, charming drunk was funny. Now, not so much.
 

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(I learned it at home, and again at school by age 10 or 11.)

I didn't. My parents were extremely prudish and would never talk about sex. I got most of my info from Debbie K, a friend who lived up the street from me.

But even Debbie didn't know everything, so I turned to books. Remember that book called Our Bodies, Ourselves? It first came out in 1971; I got a lot of my info from that book.
 

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I had a fair knowledge of sex before I hit college, even though I was a virgin and rather uninterested in changing that right away. But I'd known about orgasms for a long time <G>. So when I wanted to learn, I worked my way through the entire, rather large section of my college library. Found good stuff, mediocre stuff, and books that were so wrong even I knew they were full of shit. When I was ready, I experimented safely and happily -- yes, even during the black years when the AIDS epidemic was becoming well known.

If I were writing something set in the contemporary real world, I'd include condoms and birth control in my books. I'm writing fantasy and science-fiction, so I can play a little bit. (A main plot device of my space opera is a sexually-transmitted, bio-engineered virus with some interesting side effects.)

I'm an entertainer, not a teacher.
 

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I was a sex educator long before I tried writing erotica. That may be one reason I prefer realistic sex scenes with at least implicit safety considerations.

A review of a free short story I posted made a relevant observation - one of the only valid points IMO (emphasis mine):

The fact that none of these three guys ever stick to one role makes their kinkiness more playful than perverted, which is probably part of Dilo Keith’s larger project. I suspect he’s trying to portray sexual fetish as a fun, healthy lifestyle choice, rather than a sign of childhood trauma or moral decrepitude.
The reviewer was mistaken about the roles (among other things) - one character was always a sub.

To answer the original question - yes, I feel responsible to some extent. I'm not saying all erotica writers should be the same, but I dislike seeing what I consider irresponsible erotica - no warnings, no disclaimers, nothing that attenuates the impression that something dangerous isn't.

I learned more about sex from reading fiction than from parents or official sex education. Sexual minorities are even more likely to do this. Conventional sources of sex education are unlikely to adequately (if at all) address BDSM and other alternative sexual matters (including LGBT).
 
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