"Man" or "Guy"?

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I've used "man" and "guy" in my writing to specify gender. I'm writing in the 3rd person. I'm wondering if I should use "man" consistently. Here's a sample. Please tell me what you think, man or guy?


As Conte watched, the door flew open and a man he recognized from the slide show burst out. He had an automatic weapon at his side. Both men were caught by surprise. The guy didn’t expect to see Conte and Conte didn’t expect it to be this guy bursting out of the door. The surprise slowed the guy’s reflexes just enough for Conte to move in and deflect his gun hand.
Conte tried to hold the guy’s wrist and bring it behind him, but he was strong and quick. Conte brought the side of his other hand hard against the guy’s neck and his head snapped like a rubber band.
Conte had no time to reach in for his Glock. He had to move in close to prevent the guy from getting a shot off. He brought his elbow up hard into the guy’s midsection. The guy grunted as the air went out of him. He shoved Conte violently. Conte lost his footing and fell backward. He was about to watch the guy fire several rounds into his tired, old body, when the guy stepped back directly on the intervention tool and fell on his back. He was righting himself with his gun hand out when Conte managed to grab the tool and hurl it with all his might. It hit the guy pike end first in his left eye and stayed there while he dropped his gun and grabbed wildly for the pike with hands that had lost communication with his dying brain. He fell over backwards and started twitching. First his head jerked, then his legs. By the time Kerim showed up, only the pike was still twitching.
 

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It depends on which word is the right choice for Conte, your POV character. The way the rest reads, "man" seems more naturally to fit, since there's little other informal word selection.

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For me, you use man and guy too much. A lot of it could be replaced with 'he'.
 

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I would try to find words that describe who the newcomer is.

Conte tried to hold his assailant's wrist
Conte brought the side of his other hand hard against his attacker's neck
He brought his elbow up hard into his opponent's midsection.
 

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I agree with the black bird, unless it will fit the character who is saying "dude". If you describe the character as someone who is definite, then you might call him by some defining characteristic. If you don't want to call him "broken nose", then you are using the readily available terms.
 

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Just, for the love of God, don't use "dude".

I hope I live long enough to see "dude" go out of style as a greeting for strangers. I was born and raised in Montana where a dude is dandy city slicker who can't sit a horse.

I was just a farmboy, not a real cowboy, but I know some raised on farms and ranches who'll punch at the slur.

cough
 

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Agrees with Maryn.
In general terms, you want to convey the scene from your POV character's vocabulary. Is Conte the type of person to say "guy" when he's referring to someone? Or is he they type to say "man"?
Staying with your character's vocabulary can help your reader empathize with your character better, and give an otherwise impersonal scene a more personal slant.

JSDR, who often uses "dude" in normal conversation...:chair
 

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Agreeing with the agreement. What would Conte say?

I also agree on the word frequency. It really needs reworked to eliminate a lot of them, and sort the pronouns so we know which 'he' is Conte and which is 'guy'. Allen has some good suggestions.

Also... I say dude and you can't stop me.
 

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I've used "man" and "guy" in my writing to specify gender. I'm writing in the 3rd person. I'm wondering if I should use "man" consistently. Here's a sample. Please tell me what you think, man or guy?
I think the problem here is more about point-of-view failure than whether to use man, guy or dude.

If your POV is 3rd limited, Conte recognizes the man so why not just say who he is? If the POV is 3rd omniscient, the omniscient narrator recognizes the man so why not just say who he is?

Otherwise, you're keeping the reader in the dark for no good reason.


As Conte watched, the door flew open and a man he recognizedBill Hayes from the slide show burst out. He had an automatic weapon at his side. Both men were caught by surprise. The guy Bill didn’t expect to see Conte and Conte didn’t expect it to be this guy to see him bursting out of the door. The surprise slowed the guy’s Bill's reflexes just enough for Conte to move in and deflect his gun hand.

See? No need for "the man" at all.
 
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I knew it would be Bill Hayes! That scoundrel.

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