I hate Word 2010!

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For the last few days, it's played up on me. One minute I can find Section Break, the next it doesn't exist. Same with Page Numbering - here today, gone yesterday.

One suggestion is to remove it and re-install. That scares me because I might lose all my documents. Sure I can back up on a few USB sticks, but there must be a simpler solution.

I tried to download Abiword but it won't download English GB. I'll try it again by downloading English US as well. If that works - woo-hoo!

Any ideas what the heck happened with Word?
 

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1. Your documents are not a part of the Word program. You won't lose them. If you have no word processor, the worst that happens is that you can't open any of your files.

2. Have you used the ribbon before? Is it possible that you're flipping between the different tabs on the ribbon? That changes the menu options. Section Break is standard on the Page Layout tab, under Breaks.

If you're used to Word 2003, the ribbon is a big adjustment.
 

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I agree, it's a big change from Word 2003, and I'm not sure it's for the better.

I've been working with it for months, just edited two novels and started on the third. That's when 2010 screwed up and I have no idea what's going on with it. Is there a place where I can set it back to how it was when I installed it?

(I tried Abiword but it lacks many of the features available in Word, so I'm deleting it.)
 

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(I tried Abiword but it lacks many of the features available in Word, so I'm deleting it.)

Have you tried LibreOffice? It's a full office suite and I think the word processor has more features than AbiWord.

I gave up on Word a long time ago. :tongue
 

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Hi, Carmy.

I can't answer your Word question, but it sounds as though you don't have any backups of your novels. You might like to look into an online solution like Dropbox. It's free for the first 2gb.

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I agree, it's a big change from Word 2003, and I'm not sure it's for the better.

I've been working with it for months, just edited two novels and started on the third. That's when 2010 screwed up and I have no idea what's going on with it. Is there a place where I can set it back to how it was when I installed it?

(I tried Abiword but it lacks many of the features available in Word, so I'm deleting it.)

Not as far as I know. I'd probably delete it, reinstall it and match sure you've downloaded all the patches available for it. And make sure you report the glitch to Microsoft, if that option's available.

It took me a long time to adjust to the ribbon thing--much longer than to adjust to any other version of Word (and I've been using it since 1987)--but once you adjust to it, it's pretty nice.
 
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I like Microsoft Word. I've used various versions of it: the 1997 version with a Packard Bell computer, then I used other word processors with the other desktops I had with Packard Bell. Those computers would bring Word Pad and Microsoft Works. With a computer I had in 2002 which had no brand, I had Corel Word Perfect. Then, I had two Compaq desktops in which I would only use either Works or Word Pad because I couldn't afford Word. Back then I regarded page count because I didn't know that word-count is what matters. I didn't know that till I joined the AW Water Cooler last year. :ROFL: But anyway, back to seriousness...I kept playing around with trials of Microsoft Office Home and Student 2007 with my first Toshiba laptop. Again, played around with trials when I got this Toshiba laptop. Then, I tried free alternatives. Open Office was the first. It didn't have a live word-count, so that threw me off right there. In addition to that I didn't know how to access the Spanish-language dictionary. I write in Spanish because it's my first language. I'm Puerto Rican and I think that's a way to stay true to my roots.


So I downloaded my first trial of Microsoft Office Home and Student 2010 in May 23, 2011 if I remember correctly. I had the trial for sixty days, and we used it all on the same computer, did different things with it for the next sixty days. In July of 2011 was when I acquired a purchased version of MS Office HS 2010, three licenses to use. We've already used two, the first on this computer, and the second on my aunt's HP laptop. I still use it on this computer because I don't know which word-count is more accurate, if Word's word count or Abi Word's word-count, so I am going to mess around with Word on my Toshiba laptop for a couple more months, until I get a new laptop because this one is all messed up and it costs a fortune to get it a new battery and a new charger which is what it needs to function like a normal laptop again. We have a charger for it but it's what I call a generic one, one that's compatible with all major laptop brands, and not the original, genuine Toshiba battery charger made for this one. That one broke. :cry: So I am considering just giving this computer to my cousins to play with and uninstall Word from it because they don't use Word :ROFL: you know, to avoid wasting space on the hard drive and then install it on my new laptop. I considered buying my first netbook, but if I do I am going to have to purchase a separate DVD burner because I burn a lot of CD's and DVD's, you know, fill them with my files. I like having lots of backup for my manuscripts. Some people think it's crazy, that it suffices to have copies of the same files in one place, but media fail and I just can't afford to do that, so I have copies of my manuscripts on a recordable DVD, on my flash drive, (the incomplete and in-progress ones) to work with them on the Dell and the Toshiba laptops back and forth, I have them on this computer's hard drive, and I have my finished manuscripts on a recordable CD. I haven't considered services like Dropbox because recently someone here started a thread questioning Dropbox's safety, implying that they do take ownership of the user's files and mess with them or whatever and I just ahhh, that threw me off. It could be just a misinterpretation of the whole thing, but once I doubt something or someone, it's hard for me to trust again, to believe in the integrity that was once questioned; and I don't have internet access on the Dell laptop, so Dropbox would be useless now.


So to wrap it all up, I have Word because it's what I am used to and because it's more advanced than many other word-processors. I tried to get used to other word-processors, but I couldn't. There was always something I used a lot that Word had that, that other word-processor didn't have.


My story was kinda long, but you get the idea.

Nice seeing you guys! I always try to participate in threads about Word processors in the name of research.

M.
 

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Ugh I hate it too! Too many tabs for this and that to find where they put something. The whole x on the end of everything was on purpose to try and force people to buy another program. I never save anything in docx. It frustrates me, it does. :(
 
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Ugh I hate it too! Too many tabs for this and that to find where they put something. The whole x on the end of everything was on purpose to try and force people to buy another program. I never save anything in docx. It frustrates me, it does. :(


My works in progress and my incomplete works are saved in my flash drive in .RTF format. When I started using an old Dell laptop with no internet access on it that my cousin was kind to let me borrow and use whenever I need it, I only had Word Pad on the computer, so before transferring my WIP's to the flash drive, I converted those DOC files to RTF and I've been working on them in RTF format, in Word Pad, ever since. Now I only open the files on the Abi Word newly installed on that laptop to get an approximation of the word count, but when I work on my manuscripts, I write from Word Pad. I like the way documents look in Abi Word. What I don't like is Abi Word messes up my formatting a little bit by double-spacing some of the lines when I don't want it to. While I am working on my manuscript I like to write single-space so it feels more like a real book, and it looks better to me. I only double-space when it's time to submit. The only thing I hate about Abi Word is that compared to Word, the word-counts are off by approximately 1,500 words, and I don't know which word count to go by, so now that I have my Toshiba available to me for a couple hours, I am working on my manuscripts from here, on my flash drive.
 
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Speaking of additional features to install on Abi Word depending on the writer's needs...

Saturday, when I installed Abi Word, I noticed the computer was unable to install some of the components I wanted. What components? Spelling and grammar checking, and dictionaries to be able to write in other languages without having these annoying red-squiggly lines all over the document and having to disable the spelling and grammar checking capability just to avoid them. I guess an internet connection was needed to install these components. I like some of the features in Abi Word so I will keep it despite the minor inconveniences.
 

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I don't know where my reply went, so here it is again.

Thank you all for your help and suggestions.

LittleMing - I've used Libre and Open Office but only for one of their programs. I found a smaller one to use and deleted both those massive ones. I use UK English and grammar, and neither of those programs pick up on the slight variation in punctuation.

Georgina - I've used Dropbox in the past but now I prefer to use a USB stick.

DeylenLee - I've been using it for about the same length of time. Agents and publishers were demanding we use Word so I switched from WP.

Magali - You're right. Word is the only program to use if you write in anything but US English. Is your keyboard working okay for you?

KellyAssauer - Pages? I use Windows. Love the four-letter comment. I must remember that.

Kuwisdelu - You've lost me, too.

HistorySleuth - I agree. I'm going to start reverting to .doc when I save things. Word seems always to be pushing new versions but they haven't improved much since I first started using it.

Magali - I also found Abiword limited. It wouldn't download a UK English language program. You gets what you pays for, I guess.

Someone on the thread mentioned WordPerfect. I agree, an excellent program but still limited compared to Word 2010.

I hate to tell you this -- I downloaded a free trial of WP, found it was missing some functions, and booted it out. When I tried to open a WP file in Word compatibility that's when it screwed up. It's screwed up ever since.

Okay, I've tried all the word processing programs out there and none of them come close to offering what Word does, I'm sorry to say. I'm stuck with it so I'll try to re-install.

Keep your fingers crossed.
 
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Carmy said:
Magali - You're right. Word is the only program to use if you write in anything but US English. Is your keyboard working okay for you?


Well, I have my keyboard configured to write in both Spanish International Sort and US English. I installed that keyboard through the Clock, Languages and Region section in my Control Panel. They have tons of keyboards to choose from to set up in different languages and variations of the same language. Spanish International Sort is the additional keyboard I chose. I just change it from EN to ES and use different keys to get the special characters I want when I work on my Spanish WIP's. I discovered that 9 years ago, when I bought my 2nd computer ever from a computer technician in my homeland, and he introduced me to that special keyboard and showed me how to use it, what keys to hit to get to a specific character I wanted.

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Magali - I also found Abiword limited. It wouldn't download a UK English language program. You gets what you pays for, I guess.


You got that right. You can only get so much for free. Abiword has limitations and handicaps, but not enough of them to uninstall it from both computers I'm using. Documents still look nice in it, though, and I was right to convert my documents to RTF because Abiword opens RTF files more quickly than it opens DOC files.
 

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Great! I'm glad you had someone to help. It makes it a lot easier.
 
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Great! I'm glad you had someone to help. It makes it a lot easier.


If you want, I can find a free word processor that has the capability of writing in the language you want and I'll post the link to download it. Maybe eventually other AWers will come across this thread and download that program, too. :) I am going to take a few minutes of my time to look that up for you right now.
 
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This one is a trial, but you have nothing to lose. It occurs to me you could play around with it a bit.


http://www.softpedia.com/get/Office-tools/Other-Office-Tools/TreePad-PLUS.shtml


I am going to look for more and edit this post to put in more links.


ETA: Have you tried Atlantis Word Processor? Link straight from download.com



http://download.cnet.com/Atlantis-Word-Processor/3000-2079_4-10057477.html?tag=mncol;9


Play around with those and tell me how you liked them and if they have the one feature you're looking for. You can always PM me to give me an update. :)
 
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