A question about tense change

VeryVerity

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I've got a short story in 3rd person past tense, that starts off in what I call 3rd person past-past tense. I don't know what it's actually called. I submitted it to SYW (Erotica) and basically the general consensus was the past-past tense just looked like an error.

My questions are what is the tense actually called, and can it be made to work? Or is it just a no-no?

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I'd made a mistake, and we both knew it.

I'd said as much to him.

Sitting next to him as he'd sat working at his computer, gazing across into his gorgeous face, he'd looked over at me.

"I..."

The words had faltered on my lips and I'd looked away, hiding my face.

"No, tell me what you were going to say," he'd said with calm authority.

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The MC is recalling something that happened a few days ago. When the story gets to 'present day' she switches to ordinary past tense.

Does that make sense?

Thank you :)
 

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It's the past perfect or pluperfect (not third person). I think the consensus is you use a couple of hads to introduce the flashback then revert to past tense. Then you use a couple of hads to come out of it. Too many hads makes it hard going.
 

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Agreed :) You also probably need to stick in something about the time difference other than tense. He'd looked over at me that morning... that sort of thing.

Your snippet right now doesn't have both time periods (and tenses), so the hads seem odd because there is no time comparison that the reader is aware of yet.
 

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I had thought of answering the question, then realised it had already been answered.


"I'd made a mistake, and we both knew it.

I'd said as much to him.

Sitting next to him as he'd (he) sat working at his computer, gazing across into his gorgeous face, he'd (he) looked over at me. (except that what you're saying there is that he was gazing into his own gorgeous face).

"I..."

The words had faltered on my lips and I'd (I) looked away, hiding my face.

"No, tell me what you were going to say," he'd (he) said with calm authority."

Then, as Kenn said, leave the flashback with a couple of hads to remind the reader that it is a flashback
 
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Thank you.

That makes sense now - to set it and then go back to normal.
 

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Sitting next to him as he'd sat working at his computer, gazing across into his gorgeous face, he'd looked over at me.


Not related to tenses, but I just wanted to point out that you need to fix this dangling modifier. Unless, of course, he's literally beside himself.
 

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Thanks. I've double checked the original and this is an error where I've modified the text for this forum (apparently not overly well). The text as it originally stands reads ok. Thanks for spotting it :)