If It Shuffles Like a Zombie…

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Burnt Flesh

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I’ve got a genre question that I’m hoping you might be willing to weigh in on.

I’m working on a story set in the near future where society has collapsed, survivors are huddled in small protected settlements and existing technology and knowledge is being steadily lost as resources are poured into efforts to ensure day to day survival.

My protagonist, faced with a bleak and uncertain existence in his settlement, elects to gamble with his life and join a team of equally desperate settlers attempting to found a new colony.

Over the course of the story, my protagonist is forced to make harder and harder moral choices in order to achieve his ends, which leads to the plot’s final conflict and resolution when the protagonist must decide at what point the cost of his choices and actions will irreparably damage the very humanity that he’s so desperately trying to protect.

While my story is dark, I feel that it’s as much SF as it is Horror and I’d like to think that it would also be a reasonable submission to SF publications. But here’s my problem…

In my story, society has collapsed beneath the weight of a zombie plague. But while the story has zombies in the background and occasionally the reader might even get a peek or two at the odd zombie, the story really isn’t about zombies. I’ve given significant thought to cutting the zombies out of book but I’d ultimately like to keep them as they serve as a great metaphor and foil for the story’s main ideas.

So my question is:

Do you think that even the slightest indication of zombies as actual entities within a story is enough for most editors to send a manuscript into the rejection bin if they accept SF but do not accept Horror? Is the mention of zombies a guaranteed deal breaker? Or, if carefully handled, can a story with zombies still be considered SF?

I’d love to year your thoughts on this.

Ian

P.S.

Personally, I feel that if dreamy vampire boyfriends and tough yet sensitive werewolf dating stories are allowed to be shelved under ‘Horror’ (when really they are ‘YA Romance’) then surely there must be room in the SF genre for a story with a background inhabited by zombies.

But maybe I’m just kidding myself.
 

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I don't think this is a problem.

See successful horror novels like WORLD WAR Z and JOHN DIES AT THE END. Sometimes horror novels can get pretty damned weird, or still have an element of SF.

And I know I've seen SF with zombies in it. I'm trying to recall the titles, but I know I've seen at least a couple of books and even movies with this as the fundamental idea. If you play up the dystopian factor in your query versus the zombie factor, I doubt it will be an issue for you to sub to SFF publications.
 

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'Gotta agree with Jess...

It'll depend upon how you present your zombies. If, as characters, they're peripheral adjuncts that enhance the ambiance of your setting and serve as hallmarks of the pervasive dystopian factor of your story, I think it will work - quite well, actually.

If you still harbor any doubts, you need only offer a speculative quasi-scientific explanation for their condition; that would effectively ground your story rather solidly in SF.

I like the overall concept and tone of your story. I sense a subtly different noir quality that appeals to me. Write on!
 

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I think if the zombies have even the most tenuous scientific basis, and they're not at the center of the book, I would consider it science fiction, not horror (I enjoy both).
 

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Feed by Mira Grant.

Took the words right off my keyboard. That one's nominated for a Hugo...can't imagine it's more SF than that right there. :)
 

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Hi all,

Thanks for taking the time to weigh in with your thoughts. I’m pleasantly surprised at the fact that everyone responding so far sees making use of the zombie theme as being compatible with the SF genre.

Phew…

I’ll definitely be emphasizing the dystopian factor and I’ll try to make sure that the origins of my zombies are well grounded in plausible pseudo science ;) – thank you Jess and Violetta.

Big Words and Cranky – Thanks for pointing out M. Grant’s work. I’d been trying to recall other successfully published stories in the SF genre that handled this issue and I’d overlooked that particular book.

Iron Mike – The vote of confidence with regards to the story idea is much appreciated. It’s my first crack at a novel and my confidence can use all the bolstering it can get.

All the best…

Ian
 

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I don't understand how grounding zombie's in plausible pseudo science equals science fiction. Could someone elaborate?

Isn't a virus at the root of all zombieisms?
 

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I don't understand how grounding zombie's in plausible pseudo science equals science fiction. Could someone elaborate?

Isn't a virus at the root of all zombieisms?

Not really... Virus is among the usual suspects to be sure, but it is not the sole explanation. VooDoo, necromancy, aberrant pharmacology, possession, remote alien control, etc., all have served to sweeten the sordid stew and fuel the imagination.

As for interpreting the most appropriate genre label...

Admittedly it's somewhat subjective, but if the story offers an emphasis on a scientific explanation (or the search for one) that explains the zombie phenomena and leads to prophylaxis, or even better - a "cure", then one could think the story is more SF that raw horror.

Remember, Ian's story is focused on the MC's moral dilemmas and subsequent decisions/actions in a post-collapse society. The zombies are intended to be metaphorical symbols hovering on the periphery as stark reminders of the folly of past poor decisions. They do not serve as antagonists in his proposed plot.

Therefore, if he decides it's SF - so be it.
 

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Thanks IronMikeZero,

All excellent points about zombies and a few that never occurred to me. Your mention of a cure...made me go Mmm. I was happily hoping to see a cure come out of the TV show the Walking Dead, but there is trouble on the set. Sadly, when its good the Hollywood types ruin it.

The real crux for me is interpreting the most appropriate genre label...this might be harder than nailing the query.
 

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You know, I have read the exact same thing a year ago, except that it was 300pages modern/300 pages apocalyptic. Just can't remember the name. I quit after trying the apocalyptic part. I am not calling you a cloner, but if I will remember it, then I will at least let you know to perhaps increase your knowledge/skill of the matter.
 

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I am Legend/The Omega Man both deal with 'zombies', and I'd consider both to be Sci-Fi. I think it's more in the delivery of the Zombie, and how it moves the story along, moreso than the Zombie itself which determines whether or not you're writing SF.
 

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The Nights Dawn Trilogy by Peter Hamilton has zombies of a kind and is sci-fi.

That's the only example I can think of at the moment, though I have one more hovering at the edge of my mind that I can't quite recall.
 
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