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victoriastrauss
11-04-2005, 05:55 AM
Suppose I presented you with the following paragraph:
Knight and Associates is the first patent prosecution firm to attempt to obtain utility patent protection on fictional plots. Knight and Associates consists of Andrew Knight and a team of independent contractors comprising skilled writers and experienced patent attorneys, ready to turn valuable new fictional plots or storylines into U.S. utility patent applications.Would you think I was making it up--channeling Philip K. Dick, perhaps?
Well, you'd be wrong (http://www.plotpatents.com/index.htm).
- Victoria
Well they're only going to get eight patents, then.
katiemac
11-04-2005, 06:37 AM
Somebody start up the popcorn. I want to see how this plays out, and then laugh. :popcorn:
emeraldcite
11-04-2005, 06:41 AM
Think this is a scam? Get green authors to contract their services?
It seems that it'll just clog the justice system with more frivolity.
My official opinion: [bleck]
LightShadow
11-04-2005, 07:04 AM
Does the patents include one for the Hero's Journey? Hooya.
jules
11-04-2005, 01:49 PM
There was a story a while back about Uri Geller patenting (http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-adv.html&r=1&p=1&f=G&l=50&d=PG01&S1=geller-uri.IN.&OS=in/geller-uri&RS=IN/geller-uri) the concept of a kind of reality TV show. I believe that was based on a novel he wrote about a TV show that works like that.
This is just the next step.
jules
11-04-2005, 02:27 PM
I just went and looked up the patent application. If anyone's interested, I've posted an analysis over on Slashdot's discussion:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=167277&cid=13948876
Garpy
11-04-2005, 06:00 PM
sheeeshh....patenting story ideas? You could kiss goodbye to the book business if that madness went any further.
Jamesaritchie
11-04-2005, 06:31 PM
The trouble I see with this is that nothing can be patented if it's already been done, or even written about. Good luck is finding a plot or storyline that hasn't already been done.
FolkloreFanatic
11-04-2005, 08:26 PM
I refuse to believe that anything so obviously unqualified for patent protection could ever receive a patent.
CaoPaux
11-04-2005, 09:05 PM
The trouble I see with this is that nothing can be patented if it's already been done, or even written about. Good luck is finding a plot or storyline that hasn't already been done.My thought exactly. :crazy:
Button
11-04-2005, 09:23 PM
Someone should write to them and explain all this. ;)
Button
11-04-2005, 09:32 PM
You know, I think some lawyers sit around all day with nothing better to do than to try to invent new ways to sue people. Welcome to America. (I'm being cynical, yes.)
Button
11-04-2005, 10:36 PM
From his website, these movies have plots he thinks he could have put a patent on:
Memento, The Thirteenth Floor, Being John Malkovich, Butterfly Effect, The Game, Fight Club, The Matrix, Total Recall, The Truman Show, Minority Report, The Village, Groundhog Day, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Now does anyone else see old plots in these films?
Richard
11-04-2005, 10:39 PM
He'll get his.
On a dark and stormy night...
emeraldcite
11-05-2005, 01:26 AM
Memento functions quite a bit like Martin Amis' Time's Arrow, which functions quite a bit like...
Still sounds like a new author scam to me...
jst5150
11-05-2005, 02:03 AM
Quick! Let's band together and patent the ways you can convince a woman to sleep with you. Anytime some guy tries to steal a move (al la Seinfeld and "The Swirl"), you can drag them into court and make 'em pay.
But (and this is a J-Lo sized but), we'd really have to do a thorough amount of research to ensure what were getting aren't false positives.
"Why yes, I AM listening." Patent No. 7,654,321
"I'd love to meet with your Mom." Patent No. 7,654,327
"Yes, I LOVE Oprah, too!" Patent pending
Peggy
11-05-2005, 02:06 AM
From his website, these movies have plots he thinks he could have put a patent on:
Memento, The Thirteenth Floor, Being John Malkovich, Butterfly Effect, The Game, Fight Club, The Matrix, Total Recall, The Truman Show, Minority Report, The Village, Groundhog Day, and Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Now does anyone else see old plots in these films?For a reasonable hourly fee I would be willing to review the potential prior art in both film and literature. :) (misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1&forumid=0#)
Actually wasn't Minority Report based on a Philip K. Dick story?
pepperlandgirl
11-05-2005, 02:18 AM
Doesn't The Matrix owe an awful lot to Plato?
clintl
11-05-2005, 02:21 AM
Actually wasn't Minority Report based on a Philip K. Dick story?
So was Total Recall.
Celia Cyanide
11-05-2005, 02:29 AM
So was Total Recall.
And Fight Club was based on a Chuck Palaniuk novel. As for the Butterfky Effect, I think he might want to patent Donnie Darko first.
jules
11-05-2005, 03:08 AM
So was Total Recall.
And both Total Recall and another PKD story filmed recently, Paycheck, share one of the key claims he has in his current application: a character who has forgotten about everything they have done over some period of time.
brinkett
11-05-2005, 03:34 AM
I'd love to hear Jaws' take on this.
WerenCole
11-05-2005, 05:24 AM
The plot of the Matrix is based loosely on decades of Manga and Anime, the Wachowski brother's readily admit that they aren't that original, but made a good idea out of existing ideas. If I were going to patent something I would but a breathilizer on a cell phone to prevent drunk dialing. . . but I think it has already been done
CaitlinK18
11-06-2005, 12:52 AM
'Matrix' also takes many plot points (The Matrix itself vs. the Real World, Zion, intelligent, personified computer programs) from Neuromancer by William Gibson.
Gibson did it better.
My-Immortal
11-06-2005, 01:43 AM
Quick! Let's band together and patent the ways you can convince a woman to sleep with you. Anytime some guy tries to steal a move (al la Seinfeld and "The Swirl"), you can drag them into court and make 'em pay.
But (and this is a J-Lo sized but), we'd really have to do a thorough amount of research to ensure what were getting aren't false positives.
"Why yes, I AM listening." Patent No. 7,654,321
"I'd love to meet with your Mom." Patent No. 7,654,327
"Yes, I LOVE Oprah, too!" Patent pending
"I love to cuddle." Patent pending
"Have you lost weight?" Patent pending
"Don't worry about me, let me take care of you." Patent pending
"No, let me pay for that." Patent pending
"You have beautiful eyes." Patent pending...
:)
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