Russian historical fiction - Romanovs

David Poellot

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Maybe this is the wrong place to post this, but I'm looking for suggestions of historical fiction written about Russian history, specificially the Romanov dynasty.

This is just a bug I've thought of recently, and I was curious if there is any fiction out there, say written in the past twenty years, that anyone knows about that centers around this time and setting.

I may pursue it, even though it would take alot of research, but I've read a few books about the dynasty already. I would be very interested in some historical fiction that's been written about it. Everything I've written has been non-fiction.
 

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Google search is your friend...

The Romanov Dynasty was started in 1613 and ended with the great revolution in 1917, so that's 300 years.

What time era are you interested in?
 

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There's a very good novel set in the Napoleonic era. It focuses on four aristocratic families in Moscow and St Petersburg. Tsar Alexander I is a lesser but significant character. Of course, if the rumours about his father, Pavel I's, paternity were true, there is a strong chance the Romanov dynasty ended when Petr III died in captivity...

The novel, of course, is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_and_Peacethat and Doctor Zhivago are still the best out there. And I'd recommend their being read to get a feel for the place and time.

However on a more serious note. I poked about on Amazon. Search terms: historical fiction Russia. There's various stuff though not masses and a lot of it is tripe in my opinion. Robert Alexander's stuff is worth a look, if it's the last Romanovs that grabs you.

Given that Russia is my particular speciality (my obsession is the second half of the sixteenth century and my only competition is Dorothy Dunnett - who has Lymond soldier for Ivan the Terrible for half a book - and Aleksei Tolstoy who wrote an intriguing and inaccurate depiction of the period) I'd counsel a good deal of research.

Some difficulties are in no specific order:

The Russian naming conventions (first name, patronymic, family names and affectionate familiar diminutives) - how to avoid your readers' confusion?:)

Making the setting familiar to readers, though the nineteenth century is easier.

Your understanding of what makes the Russian tick in their time. For example, were they devout? The Orthodox chuch is of massive cultural significance. Can you get this across without sounding like a cut-price Dostoevsky?

Do you speak/read Russian, because if not you are dependent on interpretive accounts in research?

If you decide to go on - start with a good overview of the history. My favourite - and not too heavy - is 'Russia's Empires' by Philip Longworth. It's subheaded: From Prehistory to Putin but will set the historical context in readable form. Also recommended for the n00b is 'Russia and the Russians' by Geoffrey Hosking (covers earliest times to 2001). Prof Hosking taught me at uni, and I can vouch for both his scholarship and the quality of his writing. This is less light than the other book.

Finally, if you have a specific period in mind, by all means pm me. I can probably provide a starting bibliography or suggested reading for most periods from about 1470 on, though my specialism is 16-17th Century. In my period, the Romanovs (or as they were then termed, the Iuriev-Zakharins) were upwardly mobile parvenus who'd married a daughter to the then ruling house, and who made Boris Godunov so nervous he trumped up witchcraft charges against most of them. ;)

Start with a decent overview. There's a very rich seam of powerful stories in this history.
 
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I've read a lot of Russian fiction and haven't had trouble with the naming conventions. My suggestion would be to do some reading if you haven't already to pick up flavor. I personally like Doestoevsky (even if I still have trouble spelling his name); I didn't care for Dr. Zhivago as much as War and Peace, Crime and Punishment, the Brothers Karamazov, etc. I also very much like Mikhail Sholokov's Don series - more modern, but good reading. And for just good conveying feeling about the period, watch the movie Rasputin starring Lionel Barrymore. Anastasia with Yul Brynner and ? Ingrid Bergman is also powerful.

It would be quite a project but it's doable if you make a committment. I wish you luck. Puma
 

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Thanks for the help! I think you've given me a great start, and I realize the size of this project, but I wanted to read some of what's been written so far to get a feel of the audience. I have read Dostoyevsky and others, and I try to read Crime and Punishment at least once every couple years. Still, I was hoping to find something written in the past twenty years to see how writers are approaching today's audience.
 

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I second Puma's recommendation re 'The Don' books by Sholokov. They give a wonderful feel for what life was like for 'the common man' during the Revolution and Civil War. Not only that but they're beautifully written, very cinematic.
 

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I would recommend "Nicholas and Alexandra" by Robert K. Massie. It's not fiction, but it provides a good overview of the period leading up to the Revolution.
 

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Sarah Miller's THE LOST CROWN , a YA historical about the Romanovs, comes out next month. Have you checked out the Alexander Palace Time Machine Forum? They mostly discuss non-fiction Romanov books, but have several threads where they discuss novels as well. And oh, the photos! There are tons of old pictures to drool over!
 

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I have read three or maybe four non-fiction books on the Romanovs with probably two of those about the last tsar. I'm not where I'd focus the novel, be it Peter, Catherine, Ivan, Nicholas or maybe one of the lesser knowns. What I'd like to do in preparation is read some books from the past twenty years, along with Dostoyevsky and the others, and then some of the non-fiction. As I drew closer to writing, I would have to be very involved in reading the non-fiction, as well as throughout the writing. Being fiction, it would not have to be completely factual, but it would be best to have certain things nailed down.
 

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My sister is a Romanov history nut. If you wrote a novel at the end of Nicholas II reign, and got the history right she would love you. She read quite a few, but they always seem to go wrong for her.

She read one about Anastasia the relationship she had with a kitchen boy before they were executed. She was really disappointed as she pu it 'an opportunity missed.'
 

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That's pretty much where I'm at right now. I want to find good historical fiction around the Romanovs, but I'm not sure how much is out there.
 

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Another book which has excellent detail, "Peter the Great" by Robert K. Massie.
 

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"The Tsarina's Daughter" by Carolly Erickson was published in 2007. It centers around one of the Romanov girls (not Anastasia). Of course, it is one of those "what if" a Romanov survived, but it was decently written (meaning I actually finished it).

Carolly Erickson is a historian in real life so you can count on her not to muddle things up. And she does write well for someone coming from a non-fiction background (read: Alison Weir who's fiction is so clunky I wanted to cry).
 

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Have you tried Peter I by Alexei Tolstoy? It was written in the beginning of 20th century, but it's still very good. The author is not the same guy Alex Falstone wrote about (I guess that was the author of "The Silver Prince", right?), but yet another Alexei Tolstoy. He also wrote a trilogy about the revolution, The Road to Calvary, and it's quite good too, but there's not much about the Romanovs in it.
 

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Didn't Pushkin also write about Peter the Great?

There was a biography I read 50 years ago about one of the close advisors to Peter, and so far during this thread I can't even remember his name, but he was very instrumental in shaping Peter's views. I did a Google search for advisors and none of the ones that showed up were the name I'm looking for - so there's something else out there, wish I could remember what it is. Puma

ETA: I did some more Googling - I think the person I'm thinking of is Menshikov, Alexandr Danilovich Menshikov.
 
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Didn't Pushkin also write about Peter the Great?

He wrote about his ancestor on his mother's side, Abram Petrovich Gannibal, who was a man of African origin, who started his remarkable career in Russia as a slave/page of Peter, and ultimately rose to noble rank (as a general, governnor of Reval - Peter was a ruler who truly encouraged upward mobility based solely on merit).

On his father's side, Pushkin could trace his ancestry to the twelfth century and if you peruse the militarly service registers from c. 1475 - 1650 (as I often have cause to) you will encounter a good many Pushkins (at that time, they were not at the top of the nobility tree, but were nonetheless solid service nobility/cavalrymen. However, the story of Gannibal is just astounding - almost like a fairy tale. I strongly urge you to read the wiki article about him for proof that truth can be stranger than fiction.

Pushkin didn't finish his historical novel about his ancestor - however you can read more about it on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_the_Great's_Negro this will lead you to the other article about the factual life of Gannibal.

From my interest, Pushkin also wrote the play which forms the libretto of the opera, Boris Godunov. It was while listening to this opera -confined to bed with flu -that I pondered that a novel based on the central murder mystery around Boris would be something I'd surely read. As it turned out, my early researches shifted me about somewhat - though my theories as to the truth behind Boris do form a major plot point of my own novel.

Pushkin rocks. He had to virtually invent a form of literary Russian because when he began, the main language of the educated man was court French and the only written form of Russian was Church Slavonic. So to some extent he started his country's vernacular literary movement from zero.
 
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The link I keep in my signature is more relevant to people writing about modern Russia or the former USSR, but there's still some good factual information.

David, it doesn't have anything to do specifically with the Romanovs, which is what you're asking for, but for good classic Russian fiction, try some of Gogol's plays and short stories. If nothing else, The Inspector-General is fun reading.
 

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Alex, thanks for reminding me of Gannibal. I'd read the incomplete novel, a long time ago, but never picked up much of the actual story.
 

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I loved Countess Under the Stairs by Eva Ibbotson. It's about a Russian countess during the Revolution who must hide out in England. The History Channel also ran a History of Russian (not sure if that's the actual title) a few months ago. It started with the Kievan Rus all the way to present day--nice if you want an overview of all of Russian history.
 

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"The Tsarina's Daughter" by Carolly Erickson was published in 2007. It centers around one of the Romanov girls (not Anastasia). Of course, it is one of those "what if" a Romanov survived, but it was decently written (meaning I actually finished it).

It was a decent read. I think on my amazon review I was overly generous. Still its nice.

Sarah Miller's THE LOST CROWN , a YA historical about the Romanovs, comes out next month.

I disliked this book. I wanted to like it but I just couldn't. It takes the POV of all the sisters, which is fine but I dont think their voices were different enough. I was reading this on my nook and I often forgot which sisters POV I was reading and I needed to go back to the chapter.

There is the Kitchen Boy and others written by the same author. I like his stuff. Later next year there is a book about Catherine the Great. I find it is very difficult to find HF on the Romanovs. Dunno why that is since they were a drity, naughty bunch. But its all about the Tudors now.
 

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having seen this thread revived, it's reminded me of a novel. It was published a while back (the 70s)

'The Snow Mountain' by Catherine Gavin. It was written from the POV of one of the Romanov sisters.
 

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That's pretty much where I'm at right now. I want to find good historical fiction around the Romanovs, but I'm not sure how much is out there.

What I do when I want to check if something has been written about much is to do an amazon search. Of course every book that's been written isn't on amazon, but a fair amount are. I also do this to check titles of novels, because I prefer to have an original title or at least one that's not been used recently that my book could be easily confused with.
 

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Let me revive this thread with a mention of Dmitry Merezhkovsky. Even if one finds his kind of spirituality bewildering and his kind of politics execrable, his works do merit some attention.

The English translation of Peter and Alexis can be found on the Net; I'm not sure whether the Kingdom of the Beast trilogy (Paul I, Alexander I, 14 December) was translated into English.
 

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That's pretty much where I'm at right now. I want to find good historical fiction around the Romanovs, but I'm not sure how much is out there.

The Romanovs aren't as ubiquitous as Marie-Antoinette or the Tudors, but they are a popular subject for historical fiction. I foresee a lot of Romanov-themed HF in the coming years, what with the centennial of WWI between 2014-2018.